India, Iran, Russia push alternative to Suez Canal

[Tps43]

@Retired Troll

 

[El Sidd]

@Retired Troll

You can buy Dreams in this World

 

[maithil]

Ur maps show it. Ships have to cross arabian sea and cross pakistani controlled or with in easy reach international borders. Ships will be able to pass yes but only in peace time. Indiaz control is just around indian waters. The straight of water between iran and pakistan is under complete pakistani and iranian control.

Just have a second look at the maps u just posted. Trading through enemy waters or waters with in easy reach of a modern equiped navy is as stupid as an indian planner can be. Thats how we lost the sealanes and later land to the british. Same stuff happened to china in hong kong. Never under estimate sea lanes or naval routes.

Any attack on civilian trade Ships will have dangerous consequences. This route however will take some time to mature. US will not like this one bit.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Libya tried to do that stunt, you knew what happened ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1981)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_in_the_Gulf_of_Sidra_(1986)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_United_States_bombing_of_Libya

you would expect that he would know the consequences of a nation challenging a nation with a bigger more powerful navy that way

 

[delta2]

at least we haven't lost thousands of lives to us drones.

What do you think happens in a war? They drop roses on you?

Pakistan lost way more people in suicide bombings. We all know who was behind that. Just wait till the USA leaves Afghanistan.

Lemoa subjected to logistical supply, refuelling nothing more... whereas you want to convert your gwadar to chinese naval base... lol

Have a look at the map of the world showing all of the US bases. They don't need an inch of India for refueling. When you have time, sit down and think about it.

Gwadar is a Pakistani port and IS turning into Naval base where the Chinese Navy will park regularly.

 

[danger007]

What do you think happens in a war? They drop roses on you?

Pakistan lost way more people in suicide bombings. We all know who was behind that. Just wait till the USA leaves Afghanistan.



Have a look at the map of the world showing all of the US bases. They don't need an inch of India for refueling. When you have time, sit down and think about it.

Gwadar is a Pakistani port and IS turning into Naval base where the Chinese Navy will park regularly.

It's cooperation nothing more, they might have lot of bases across world... but lemoa is just strengthening mutual cooperation... we didn't provided bases for them to use drones to kill our people... if you still unable to understand, let it be..

 

[Cobra Arbok]

What do you think happens in a war? They drop roses on you?

Pakistan lost way more people in suicide bombings. We all know who was behind that. Just wait till the USA leaves Afghanistan.



Have a look at the map of the world showing all of the US bases. They don't need an inch of India for refueling. When you have time, sit down and think about it.

Gwadar is a Pakistani port and IS turning into Naval base where the Chinese Navy will park regularly.

SO you make fun of us for signing LEMOA but you actually have foreign powers operate military bases on your soil unlike us... ironic.

 

[delta2]

Sure, go ahe

It's cooperation nothing more, they might have lot of bases across world... but lemoa is just strengthening mutual cooperation... we didn't provided bases for them to use drones to kill our people... if you still unable to understand, let it be..

No, you just use your own army and police to commit genocides against minorities every now and then, and rape your own women on a daily basis without break.

Pakistan has been at and under war since 2001. In war people die. Drone strikes killed those the USA termed its enemy. Whether or not they were enemies of Pakistan is not debatable.

Pakistan was at a crossroads: Face a full scale full spectrum warfare from the USA + NATO or find a way out of it. I would have not sacrificed Pakistan for the sake of Afghanis. Come 17 years later, the USA is preparing to withdraw from Afghanistan while most of the NATO members have already left.

LEMOA gives the USA a cushioning space in case China obliterates the US navy and Taiwan goes to China. The USA is an empire and they don't need India's cooperation, it is the other way around. LEMOA is a a pat on the Indian back in case the USA ends up crossing a red line China has drawn. The last time the USA crossed a red line in the Korean war China entered the war and pushed USA+allies all they way from its border to current line dividing the Koreas. At that time China was weak and poor and didn't give a damn even after they were threatened with nukes.

LEMOA is a pressure tactic initiated by the current superpower against the next one, and that superpwer ain't India.

SO you make fun of us for signing LEMOA but you actually have foreign powers operate military bases on your soil unlike us... ironic.

No, I couldn't care less if you sold all of India to a gypsy for eighteen dollars.

Get this through your head: Gwadar is a Pakistani port, turning into a Pakistani naval base which will also welcome Pakistan's next door neighbour, closest friend and ally China.

There is no foreign power running bases in Pakistan.

 

[danger007]

Sure, go ahe

No, you just use your own army and police to commit genocides against minorities every now and then, and rape your own women on a daily basis without break.

Pakistan has been at and under war since 2001. In war people die. Drone strikes killed those the USA termed its enemy. Whether or not they were enemies of Pakistan is not debatable.

Pakistan was at a crossroads: Face a full scale full spectrum warfare from the USA + NATO or find a way out of it. I would have not sacrificed Pakistan for the sake of Afghanis. Come 17 years later, the USA is preparing to withdraw from Afghanistan while most of the NATO members have already left.

LEMOA gives the USA a cushioning space in case China obliterates the US navy and Taiwan goes to China. The USA is an empire and they don't need India's cooperation, it is the other way around. LEMOA is a a pat on the Indian back in case the USA ends up crossing a red line China has drawn. The last time the USA crossed a red line in the Korean war China entered the war and pushed USA+allies all they way from its border to current line dividing the Koreas. At that time China was weak and poor and didn't give a damn even after they were threatened with nukes.

LEMOA is a pressure tactic initiated by the current superpower against the next one, and that superpwer ain't India.



No, I couldn't care less if you sold all of India to a gypsy for eighteen dollars.

Get this through your head: Gwadar is a Pakistani port, turning into a Pakistani naval base which will also welcome Pakistan's next door neighbour, closest friend and ally China.

There is no foreign power running bases in Pakistan.

Now it's clear, you just refused to accept the reality..... that's why changing goal posts..

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

You can buy Dreams in this World

Dreams are always free.

 

[Kaniska]

Cpec and Chahbar are 2 comoletely different project diff objective...

 

[El Sidd]

Dreams are always free.

How

 

[GHALIB]

Typical Pakistani, change the subject when you can't argue with facts. Listen Sunshine, you cannot change the ground reality that Chabahar has been a success and is now operational, and that the INSTC is now almost complete. You cannot say the same for CPEC and Gwadar. And if CPEC was so successful, why is Pakistan barely able to clear 4 percent growth while India has been regularly crossing 8? And you cannot deny that India's trade with Iran, Russia, and Central Asia DWARFS that of Pakistan. These are all simple facts that your delusions and chest-thumping cannot counter.

Avoid such sunshines.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

How

Because you always dream during free time.

 

[El Sidd]

Because you always dream during free time.

But if its Time and energy consuming work. Then its not free then