India developing Heavy Lift Launch Vehicle with 16.3 ton to GTO

[MULUBJA]

Ignorance is bliss.

Restrictions on exporting technology from US

It said part of the reason why China’s space sector is not as commercially viable is because of US restrictions on exporting required technology to the US.

People watch as a rocket from ISRO takes off successfully to launch a record 104 satellites. (PTI Photo)
“Although China is developing rapidly into a major player in the space industry, the country’s commercial space sector is still in its infancy. Many of the world’s satellites are made in or use parts from the US. However, satellites and components made in the US are prohibited from being exported to China, making it very difficult for China to get contracts for commercial satellite launches with other countries,” it said.

But China is likely to put the wherewithal in place quickly.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...state-media/story-hUXI9C9ReS0KmTMOnwZYEM.html

 

[Dungeness]

Ignorance is bliss.

There are some Indian members worth debating, but this member is definitely not one of them. It is just embarrassing to know there even exists such ignorant people in this day of internet.

 

[GuardianRED]

You need to check Chinese space launch record since the 90s bhai, we can't launch anything with US components due to embargo, that's why all new launches are full packages which include the satellites, example DFH-4 for Thailand, Belarus, Bolivia, Laos, Indonesia, Nigeria, Venezuela, etc. Open your mind and learn the truth. We were launching 4 tonners for US back in the 90s, 20 years ago bhai. You just achieve a small step and start jumping like monkeys shouting supa powa 2012.

ISRO launches are only cheap coz its subsidized, you piggy back it. Ex: You are launching GSATs, since there is some space, you give out cheap space for other small microsats, thereby you claim it's cheap. The truth is when you go for higher payloads for commercial satellites, the cost increases exponentially like Ariane-5, LM-3B, H-IIA, etc. Understand? You can try launching with GSLV MKIII and see if it's cheap if it's standalone foreign satellite, not subsidized piggback.

Regarding reliability, check your GSLV-MKII reliablity first, you are comparing one PSLV against 4 families of launchers in China. The more you launch the more risk you face, the same problem the US and Russia faces.

Up until 2016, your solar panels, lithium batteries and titanium sponges are imported, and guess who is the major producer of all three items. =)

LOL.... this is too funny !!!!... u know the meaning of Subsidized?? , can you back up you calm of this or just like to rant and parrot the same BS post after post .

And GSLV reliability ??? = a 70+% success rate is pretty good!

What a Sad sad pathetic life you live!!

 

[Shinigami]

look at the chinese in this thread
what an insecure bunch

 

[Han Patriot]

Restrictions on exporting technology from US

It said part of the reason why China’s space sector is not as commercially viable is because of US restrictions on exporting required technology to the US.


People watch as a rocket from ISRO takes off successfully to launch a record 104 satellites. (PTI Photo)
“Although China is developing rapidly into a major player in the space industry, the country’s commercial space sector is still in its infancy. Many of the world’s satellites are made in or use parts from the US. However, satellites and components made in the US are prohibited from being exported to China, making it very difficult for China to get contracts for commercial satellite launches with other countries,” it said.

But China is likely to put the wherewithal in place quickly.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...state-media/story-hUXI9C9ReS0KmTMOnwZYEM.html

We are under embargo, how the heck can we even buy satellite components from the West? The only thing we managed to smuggle in were the Beidou one atomic clocks.

You are a very simple person.
You mixed launch costs, satellite costs and facilities build up into one category of launches.
Shoo my high iq chinese.

It's just a general statement to show you the impossibility of 15 million launches when the expenditure is that high. Your satellites are not exactly world leading, all weighing below 3.5 tonnes.

look at the chinese in this thread
what an insecure bunch

Chill bhai, just to make sure you guys get a dose of reality check before jumping like monkeys shouting supapowa 2012.

LOL.... this is too funny !!!!... u know the meaning of Subsidized?? , can you back up you calm of this or just like to rant and parrot the same BS post after post .

And GSLV reliability ??? = a 70+% success rate is pretty good!

What a Sad sad pathetic life you live!!

LOL....that means a third of your launches are failing, and you call that reliable? LOL. Read the article I posted on oranges and apples.

 

[GuardianRED]

We are under embargo, how the heck can we even buy satellite components from the West? The only thing we managed to smuggle in were the Beidou one atomic clocks.


It's just a general statement to show you the impossibility of 15 million launches when the expenditure is that high. Your satellites are not exactly world leading, all weighing below 3.5 tonnes.


Chill bhai, just to make sure you guys get a dose of reality check before jumping like monkeys shouting supapowa 2012.


LOL....that means a third of your launches are failing, and you call that reliable? LOL. Read the article I posted on oranges and apples.

Wow another pathetic reply...

Now u judge what is world leading by what it weights???.... LOL.... Pathetic, only u will think that All satellites are the same!!!

Yes it it reliable with 3 failures in 11 launches with the Last 4 launches a Success!!! ...

Have you read what is posted??? ... what are you trying to prove?

what abt this Subsidized BS you are parroting about, got any info to back you up or as usual you are just ranting!!!

 

[Han Patriot]

Wow another pathetic reply...

Now u judge what is world leading by what it weights???.... LOL.... Pathetic, only u will think that All satellites are the same!!!

Yes it it reliable with 3 failures in 11 launches with the Last 4 launches a Success!!! ...

Have you read what is posted??? ... what are you trying to prove?

what abt this Subsidized BS you are parroting about, got any info to back you up or as usual you are just ranting!!!

Then tell me how for PSLV, with imported titanium sponges, you can launch it cheaper? Look at the import content..unless you are telling me you pay peanuts to your scientist, then I give in. Are you willing to say that? LOL

Remember titanium sponges were only indigenous in 2016 and you were claiming cheap launches since before that.

0.7 launch reliability is still pathetic ok. Even the worst Chinese launchers cannot reach that level.

 

[Dream Destroyer]

Great development.

 

[GuardianRED]

Then tell me how for PSLV, with imported titanium sponges, you can launch it cheaper? Look at the import content..unless you are telling me you pay peanuts to your scientist, then I give in. Are you willing to say that? LOL

Remember titanium sponges were only indigenous in 2016 and you were claiming cheap launches since before that.

0.7 launch reliability is still pathetic ok. Even the worst Chinese launchers cannot reach that level.

You parroting the same BS for the past year!!!.. when do you learn?? u need to back you claim with Credible Info. Else Stop this BS ranting and making a Joke of yourself.

Lol.... comparing with chinese launches so laughable ... heck all you failures are covered up with media blackouts... no one will know of it and you are boasting about it!! .... lol!!!

 

[K210]

Then tell me how for PSLV, with imported titanium sponges, you can launch it cheaper? Look at the import content..unless you are telling me you pay peanuts to your scientist, then I give in. Are you willing to say that? LOL

Remember titanium sponges were only indigenous in 2016 and you were claiming cheap launches since before that.

0.7 launch reliability is still pathetic ok. Even the worst Chinese launchers cannot reach that level.

Indian rockets are cheaper than their Chinese counterparts because they mostly use solid fuel not liquid fuel like most Chinese vehicles use. China's space program is not built for cost effectiveness. No wonder all customers are coming to india instead.

 

[nang2]

Indian rockets are cheaper than their Chinese counterparts because they mostly use solid fuel not liquid fuel like most Chinese vehicles use. China's space program is not built for cost effectiveness. No wonder all customers are coming to india instead.

I don't know why solid fuel would be cheaper. It certainly provides smaller lift with the same mass. One possible reason for India to focus on solid fuel rocket is that the whole research will benefit its ICBM program.

 

[Han Patriot]

Indian rockets are cheaper than their Chinese counterparts because they mostly use solid fuel not liquid fuel like most Chinese vehicles use. China's space program is not built for cost effectiveness. No wonder all customers are coming to india instead.

Yah, PSLV can only launch 1.5 tonnes. except for picosats and nanosats from universities and startup, nobody is taking it seriously.

You parroting the same BS for the past year!!!.. when do you learn?? u need to back you claim with Credible Info. Else Stop this BS ranting and making a Joke of yourself.

Lol.... comparing with chinese launches so laughable ... heck all you failures are covered up with media blackouts... no one will know of it and you are boasting about it!! .... lol!!!

You do know all launches are actually tracked by NORAD, everybody will know if any launcher failed. Get it?

Restrictions on exporting technology from US

It said part of the reason why China’s space sector is not as commercially viable is because of US restrictions on exporting required technology to the US.


People watch as a rocket from ISRO takes off successfully to launch a record 104 satellites. (PTI Photo)
“Although China is developing rapidly into a major player in the space industry, the country’s commercial space sector is still in its infancy. Many of the world’s satellites are made in or use parts from the US. However, satellites and components made in the US are prohibited from being exported to China, making it very difficult for China to get contracts for commercial satellite launches with other countries,” it said.

But China is likely to put the wherewithal in place quickly.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...state-media/story-hUXI9C9ReS0KmTMOnwZYEM.html

There you go. If we were allowed to launch US satellites and satellites with US components, we would monopolize the market. Understand? Btw, we had been launching satellites commercially since the 90s, it is India who is the infant...

 

[K210]

Yah, PSLV can only launch 1.5 tonnes. except for picosats and nanosats from universities and startup, nobody is taking it seriously.

PSLV can launch up to 3.8 tons into LEO. You should double check your sources before posting such BS. As for your claim no one is taking PSLV seriously, how many commercial sats has india launched in the last year compared to how many china has launched in the last year?

It's funny how some Chinese media tout ISRO's launch of 104 sats in one go as "limited capability" but they are unable to do the same.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Chill bhai, just to make sure you guys get a dose of reality check before jumping like monkeys shouting supapowa 2012.

Yeah bhai. Check your flags before jumping.

Wow another pathetic reply...

Now u judge what is world leading by what it weights???.... LOL.... Pathetic, only u will think that All satellites are the same!!!

Yes it it reliable with 3 failures in 11 launches with the Last 4 launches a Success!!! ...

Have you read what is posted??? ... what are you trying to prove?

what abt this Subsidized BS you are parroting about, got any info to back you up or as usual you are just ranting!!!

Ignore the false flag. The pattern is, when it comes to India's internal affairs, there will be a lot of Pakistani members commenting. But when it comes to space related thread, there will be a lot of Chinese for obvious reasons.

 

[applesauce]

LOL.... this is too funny !!!!... u know the meaning of Subsidized?? , can you back up you calm of this or just like to rant and parrot the same BS post after post .

And GSLV reliability ??? = a 70+% success rate is pretty good!

What a Sad sad pathetic life you live!!

70% success rate is absolutely horrendous when it comes to launch vehicle reliability

take a look at others

Delta - 95% success rate
long march series - 95.5%
space x - 94%
Ariane 5 - 95.7%
proton(which has had issues recently due to quality control) - 88.6%