India developing Heavy Lift Launch Vehicle with 16.3 ton to GTO

[MULUBJA]

Some High lights from the presentation.

About 170 subsystems were developed fro GSLV MK3. Except 1, all met design parameters in first test itself.

In first test itself, CE25 met all parameters and burnt for 720 seconds.

Special metallurgy was developed for many applications in collaboration of Indian Industry.

Some tests which requires 6 months preparation were completed in 25 days.

GSLV MK2 engine performed 100% as per the design parameter and plan VS actual performance graph overlapped each others as if it is one graph.

16 ton payload vehicle shall be developed with Huge boosters of 200 ton fuel and 400 ton fuel in main motor.

35 Software were developed for various sub system testing.

Around 200 test were carried out at various development stages and except one, all met their design parameters in first test itself.

Special copper with 200 time more conductivity than steel was developed for Cryo application.

Crayo motors give 70% more power than solid fuel motor and 35% more power than semi crayo motors.

Semi cryogenic application in shall add 37 to 38% boost in weight carrying to GTO.

Cryogenic engine starting probability was increased to 99.995%.

Semi cryo motor in development shall be second most powerful of its kind.

 

[MULUBJA]

You have to do it first then you brag...but even GSLV MKIII is a two decade old technology. There is nothing to brag, you are just catching up.

By the way what new have you developed after Cryogenic engine? Do you use any other more modern engine in your rocket ?

Let me tell you , we have tested Scremjet engine and reusable launch technology to be used in rocket and bring down launch cost to just 10% of present cost Where are you? Probably at the same place where Russia gave you those technologies. You have not moved a single step forward.

 

[Han Patriot]

By the way what new have you developed after Cryogenic engine? Do you use any other more modern engine in your rocket ?

Let me tell you , we have tested Scremjet engine and reusable launch technology to be used in rocket and bring down launch cost to just 10% of present cost Where are you? Probably at the same place where Russia gave you those technologies. You have not moved a single step forward.

I don't want to go off topic as our Mod had already warned us, but probably you have no idea about Chinese scramjet and detonation ramjet technology, please read up.

Let's stick back to GSLVMKIII shall we. Can you tell me why India is still using Ariane for the next few launches? Why only launch a measly 3.2 tonnes when the designed load is 4 tonnes? =)

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Let's stick back to GSLVMKIII shall we. Can you tell me why India is still using Ariane for the next few launches? Why only launch a measly 3.2 tonnes when the designed load is 4 tonnes? =)

GSLV Mark 3 is still being validated, with recent launch showing good signs, the contracts for the Ariane launches, surely have been signed well before hand.

 

[rcrmj]

lol funny deluded Indian, lets come back to this thread 5 years later, its gonna be another display of their grandiose delusion and inferior complexity````

 

[MULUBJA]

I don't want to go off topic as our Mod had already warned us, but probably you have no idea about Chinese scramjet and detonation ramjet technology, please read up.

Let's stick back to GSLVMKIII shall we. Can you tell me why India is still using Ariane for the next few launches? Why only launch a measly 3.2 tonnes when the designed load is 4 tonnes? =)

Than why are you derailing the discussion with nonsense like cryogenic technology is old as if you are using something more advance?

We are going to send just 700 KG satellite this months with PSLV. Does it mean that its payload carrying is 700 KG? I have explained this number of times but you repeatedly come back with your typical shit argument again and again.

lol funny deluded Indian, lets come back to this thread 5 years later, its gonna be another display of their grandiose delusion and inferior complexity````

see this is inferiority complex.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...state-media/story-hUXI9C9ReS0KmTMOnwZYEM.html

 

[Han Patriot]

Than why are you derailing the discussion with nonsense like cryogenic technology is old as if you are using something more advance?

We are going to send just 700 KG satellite this months with PSLV. Does it mean that its payload carrying is 700 KG? I have explained this number of times but you repeatedly come back with your typical shit argument again and again.



see this is inferiority complex.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...state-media/story-hUXI9C9ReS0KmTMOnwZYEM.html

It's just to make you feel better since the panels and batteries are still exported to India. How to launch cheaply? Easy, just create subsidized piggy backs for nano and microsats. LOL

Apples and Oranges: Why ISRO Rockets Aren’t Comparable to Falcons or Arianes
https://thewire.in/110065/isro-gslv-falcon-ariane/

In contrast, Proton can carry 6,300 kg; Ariane 5, 10,500 kg; and Falcon 9, 8,300 kg – all to the GTO. Second: It is often cited that it costs ISRO $15 million to launch the PSLV and that it costs SpaceX around $62 million to launch a Falcon 9. Notwithstanding the first point: these numbers do not stand for what it costs to purchase a kilogram onboard these launchers. And in ISRO’s case, no one knows these numbers anyway, so claiming that PSLV is a “low-cost launcher” would be premature.

A New Indian Express editorial penned in the wake of the C37 launch stayed clear of these misconceptions. However, it teetered on the brink of a different problem at its close:

ISRO is now the preferred agency for launching small satellites, thanks to its tried and tested PSLV. But the big money is in the heavy payloads. And, heavier satellites require the Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV). ISRO has the ambition and the ability to turn GSLV into its next warhorse.

Just use some common sense, with so much import content, some even coming from China, how is it possible that you can launch cheaper? The only reason you can launch cheaper is by offering subsidized piggybacks when you launch domestic satellites. Just take 1.4 billion of the budget divide by 7 launches a year, you get a cost of roughly 200 mil per satellite. Why this is accurate? Because the whole ISRO is used to support the launches. Low cost my foot!

 

[Bhasad Singh Mundi]

 

[MULUBJA]

It's just to make you feel better since the panels and batteries are still exported to India. How to launch cheaply? Easy, just create subsidized piggy backs for nano and microsats. LOL

Apples and Oranges: Why ISRO Rockets Aren’t Comparable to Falcons or Arianes
https://thewire.in/110065/isro-gslv-falcon-ariane/

With what nonsense have you come up once again? Which panels and batteries are exported to India and by whom and what connection does it have with India's rockets?

We have never claimed that ISORS rockets at that time was comparable to ARIEN? What is your point here? You to had nothing comparable to Arianes some time ago and have nothing comparable even today. We have launched our heavy lift rocket just now and we are planning to boost load by 16 tones in next decade. Now stop your idiocy and leave the thread. You have nothing to contribute here except bragging and boasting.

 

[Han Patriot]

With what nonsense have you come up once again? Which panels and batteries are exported to India and by whom and what connection does it have with India's rockets?

We have never claimed that ISORS rockets at that time was comparable to ARIEN? What is your point here? You to had nothing comparable to Arianes some time ago and have nothing comparable even today. We have launched our heavy lift rocket just now and we are planning to boost load by 16 tones in next decade. Now stop your idiocy and leave the thread. You have nothing to contribute here except bragging and boasting.

The point is ISRO launches are not as cheap as claimed, understand? Read the whole article. Fine we don't talk about your satellites, titanium, you know titanium? Titanium sponges were still imported until 2016. So tell me how can your launches be cheaper when you even need to import titanium.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_Sponge_Plant_in_India

Plant commissioned by August 2015, so it means only in 2016 you can get the first products.

 

[MULUBJA]

The point is ISRO launches are not as cheap as claimed, understand? Read the whole article. Fine we don't talk about your satellites, titanium, you know titanium? Titanium sponges were still imported until 2016. So tell me how can your launches be cheaper when you even need to import titanium.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_Sponge_Plant_in_India

Plant commissioned by August 2015, so it means only in 2016 you can get the first products.

Than how do we launch the satellite across the world so cheaply and nobody comes to you for launch? They know the reliability of your vehicle.

 

[Han Patriot]

Than how do we launch the satellite across the world so cheaply and nobody comes to you for launch? They know the reliability of your vehicle.

You need to check Chinese space launch record since the 90s bhai, we can't launch anything with US components due to embargo, that's why all new launches are full packages which include the satellites, example DFH-4 for Thailand, Belarus, Bolivia, Laos, Indonesia, Nigeria, Venezuela, etc. Open your mind and learn the truth. We were launching 4 tonners for US back in the 90s, 20 years ago bhai. You just achieve a small step and start jumping like monkeys shouting supa powa 2012. So typical.

ISRO launches are only cheap coz its subsidized, you piggy back it. Ex: You are launching GSATs, since there is some space, you give out cheap space for other small microsats, thereby you claim it's cheap. The truth is when you go for higher payloads for commercial satellites, the cost increases exponentially like Ariane-5, LM-3B, H-IIA, etc. Understand? You can try launching with GSLV MKIII and see if it's cheap if it's standalone foreign satellite, not subsidized piggback.

Regarding reliability, check your GSLV-MKII reliablity first, you are comparing one PSLV against 4 families of launchers in China. The more you launch the more risk you face, the same problem the US and Russia faces.

Up until 2016, your solar panels, lithium batteries and titanium sponges are imported, and guess who is the major producer of all three items. =)

 

[MULUBJA]

You need to check Chinese space launch record since the 90s bhai, we can't launch anything with US components due to embargo, that's why all new launches are full packages which include the satellites, example DFH-4 for Thailand, Belarus, Bolivia, Laos, Indonesia, Nigeria, Venezuela, etc. Open your mind and learn the truth. We were launching 4 tonners for US back in the 90s, 20 years ago bhai. You just achieve a small step and start jumping like monkeys shouting supa powa 2012. So typical.

ISRO launches are only cheap coz its subsidized, you piggy back it. Ex: You are launching GSATs, since there is some space, you give out cheap space for other small microsats, thereby you claim it's cheap. The truth is when you go for higher payloads for commercial satellites, the cost increases exponentially like Ariane-5, LM-3B, H-IIA, etc. Understand? You can try launching with GSLV MKIII and see if it's cheap if it's standalone foreign satellite, not subsidized piggback.

Regarding reliability, check your GSLV-MKII reliablity first, you are comparing one PSLV against 4 families of launchers in China. The more you launch the more risk you face, the same problem the US and Russia faces.

Up until 2016, your solar panels, lithium batteries and titanium sponges are imported, and guess who is the major producer of all three items. =)

You used a loads of US parts in your satellites and since when US has restricted it, you are witnessing problems.

 

[Han Patriot]

You used a loads of US parts in your satellites and since when US has restricted it, you are witnessing problems.

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[lastone]

It's just to make you feel better since the panels and batteries are still exported to India. How to launch cheaply? Easy, just create subsidized piggy backs for nano and microsats. LOL

Apples and Oranges: Why ISRO Rockets Aren’t Comparable to Falcons or Arianes

Just use some common sense, with so much import content, some even coming from China, how is it possible that you can launch cheaper? The only reason you can launch cheaper is by offering subsidized piggybacks when you launch domestic satellites. Just take 1.4 billion of the budget divide by 7 launches a year, you get a cost of roughly 200 mil per satellite. Why this is accurate? Because the whole ISRO is used to support the launches. Low cost my foot!

You are a very simple person.
You mixed launch costs, satellite costs and facilities build up into one category of launches.
Shoo my high iq chinese.