india defense budget to be frozen !"aviation global " reveals

[SinoChallenger]

Around $10- $12 billion is used to buy new weapons or existing on going weapons programmes annually.

BUT INDIA IS BUYING HUGE AMOUNTS OF WEAPONS EVEN $100 BILLION CAPITAL SPENT OVER 10 YEARS WILL NOT BE ENOUGH

$20 BILLION MMRCA
$4.5 BILLION C17 GLOBEMASTER
$3.0 GORKHOV CARRIER
$5 BILLION ARIHANT X 4 + 1 AKULA
$2 BILLION POSEDION
$15 BILLION FOR NEW 90,000 CORPS FOR CHINEASE BORDERS WITH FULL EQUIMENT
$3 BILLION ARJUN X 248 TANKS
$7 BILLION FOR 1600 T90 TANKS
$10 BILLION FOR ABM SYSTEM
$10 BILLION FOR FRIGATES X 10
$7 BILLION KOLKATTA DESTROYERS X 6


There much more i have surely missed

WAT ABOUT pak fs fgfa tejas LCA mk1 & 2

Arjun mk3

new IFV

NEW s artillary

Dhruvs & lca HELOS

aKASH MISSLE PROHRAMME

agni 4 & 5

surya ICBM

ITS ENDLESS $$$$$$$44

More like it was all indian BS and lies from the beginning. Look around you, does it look like india has "endless $$$$$"?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Around $10- $12 billion is used to buy new weapons or existing on going weapons programmes annually.

BUT INDIA IS BUYING HUGE AMOUNTS OF WEAPONS EVEN $100 BILLION CAPITAL SPENT OVER 10 YEARS WILL NOT BE ENOUGH

$20 BILLION MMRCA
$4.5 BILLION C17 GLOBEMASTER
$3.0 GORKHOV CARRIER
$5 BILLION ARIHANT X 4 + 1 AKULA
$2 BILLION POSEDION
$15 BILLION FOR NEW 90,000 CORPS FOR CHINEASE BORDERS WITH FULL EQUIMENT
$3 BILLION ARJUN X 248 TANKS
$7 BILLION FOR 1600 T90 TANKS
$10 BILLION FOR ABM SYSTEM
$10 BILLION FOR FRIGATES X 10
$7 BILLION KOLKATTA DESTROYERS X 6


There much more i have surely missed

WAT ABOUT pak fs fgfa tejas LCA mk1 & 2

Arjun mk3

new IFV

NEW s artillary

Dhruvs & lca HELOS

aKASH MISSLE PROHRAMME

agni 4 & 5

surya ICBM

ITS ENDLESS $$$$$$$44

Well you've got it a bit wrong mate, some of these deals are seizable deals that will not have been fully completed by 2020 for example the FGFA, MMRCA, MRTA, ARJUN MK.3 and big ticket deals like these aren't paid for in one go but over a period of time. This easily explains it. The real interesting time will be 2020-2030 when defence industry has properly matured and India will be spending $700 billion-$1 trillion in a 10 year period.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

More like it was all indian BS and lies from the beginning. Look around you, does it look like india has "endless $$$$$"?

And those are all done deals. And I can smell someone burning....

 

[Edevelop]

While India has shown the world that it tends to spend billions i.e on MMRCA, Destroyers, PAKFA, LCA, Arjun Tanks, Aircraft Carriers, Nuke Subs. China and Pakistan on the other hand have gone undercover and they don't like to share the world real facts.

To prove this, China has secret projects like J-20, J-XX, J-15, J-10B, H-8 Stealth bomber, Aircraft Carriers, Drones, Helicopters. Pakistan on the other hand has been working on JF-17 Blk 2, Blk 3, Al-Khalid Tank 2, H2, H4, Shaheen 3, cruise missile like Babur and Ra'ad (that came from no where), and future armed Drones. Most info on both sides have not been disclosed to the world. It is still a mystery... our defence budget so called 'shown to the world' is inaccurate.

In the end, India's defence budget may seem unlimited/endless because they have disclosed everything to the world quite openly.

 

[Ammyy]

While India has shown the world that it tends to spend billions i.e on MMRCA, Destroyers, PAKFA, LCA, Arjun Tanks, Aircraft Carriers, Nuke Subs. China and Pakistan on the other hand have gone undercover and they don't like to share the world real facts.

To prove this, China has secret projects like J-20, J-XX, J-15, J-10B, H-8 Stealth bomber, Aircraft Carriers, Drones, Helicopters. Pakistan on the other hand has been working on JF-17 Blk 2, Blk 3, Al-Khalid Tank 2, H2, H4, Shaheen 3, cruise missile like Babur and Ra'ad (that came from no where), and future armed Drones. Most info on both sides have not been disclosed to the world. It is still a mystery... our defence budget so called 'shown to the world' is inaccurate.

In the end, India's defence budget may seem unlimited/endless because they have disclosed everything to the world quite openly.

In a democracy government cant hide spending .... this is how democracy works

 

[machinist]

While India has shown the world that it tends to spend billions i.e on MMRCA, Destroyers, PAKFA, LCA, Arjun Tanks, Aircraft Carriers, Nuke Subs. China and Pakistan on the other hand have gone undercover and they don't like to share the world real facts.

To prove this, China has secret projects like J-20, J-XX, J-15, J-10B, H-8 Stealth bomber, Aircraft Carriers, Drones, Helicopters. Pakistan on the other hand has been working on JF-17 Blk 2, Blk 3, Al-Khalid Tank 2, H2, H4, Shaheen 3, cruise missile like Babur and Ra'ad (that came from no where), and future armed Drones. Most info on both sides have not been disclosed to the world. It is still a mystery... our defence budget so called 'shown to the world' is inaccurate.

In the end, India's defence budget may seem unlimited/endless because they have disclosed everything to the world quite openly.

Sir, Its the duty of every government to inform the safety of the people. More safety and stable country means then more foreign investment flows in the country. and wat is the point in hiding the defence budget?
And who said that india is revealing everything to their public? see our nuclear program and our secret INS arihant nuke submarine project, they all kept secret until its development stage.
There are many other secret project which may be going in DRDO and i cannot able to name it because they are all secret project

 

[prabhakar]

While India has shown the world that it tends to spend billions i.e on MMRCA, Destroyers, PAKFA, LCA, Arjun Tanks, Aircraft Carriers, Nuke Subs. China and Pakistan on the other hand have gone undercover and they don't like to share the world real facts.

To prove this, China has secret projects like J-20, J-XX, J-15, J-10B, H-8 Stealth bomber, Aircraft Carriers, Drones, Helicopters. Pakistan on the other hand has been working on JF-17 Blk 2, Blk 3, Al-Khalid Tank 2, H2, H4, Shaheen 3, cruise missile like Babur and Ra'ad (that came from no where), and future armed Drones. Most info on both sides have not been disclosed to the world. It is still a mystery... our defence budget so called 'shown to the world' is inaccurate.

In the end, India's defence budget may seem unlimited/endless because they have disclosed everything to the world quite openly.

who told you that we have everything in open...? If PA think that than we have huge advantage.

 

[Solar Flare]

While India has shown the world that it tends to spend billions i.e on MMRCA, Destroyers, PAKFA, LCA, Arjun Tanks, Aircraft Carriers, Nuke Subs. China and Pakistan on the other hand have gone undercover and they don't like to share the world real facts.

To prove this, China has secret projects like J-20, J-XX, J-15, J-10B, H-8 Stealth bomber, Aircraft Carriers, Drones, Helicopters. Pakistan on the other hand has been working on JF-17 Blk 2, Blk 3, Al-Khalid Tank 2, H2, H4, Shaheen 3, cruise missile like Babur and Ra'ad (that came from no where), and future armed Drones. Most info on both sides have not been disclosed to the world. It is still a mystery... our defence budget so called 'shown to the world' is inaccurate.

In the end, India's defence budget may seem unlimited/endless because they have disclosed everything to the world quite openly.

ahhhhh....ok...but the thread is about India here. But, thanks for your info anyways.

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More like it was all indian BS and lies from the beginning. Look around you, does it look like india has "endless $$$$$"?

Dude, you still haven't told me what do you smoke. I want some too.

 

[tvsram1992]

we need to get our things done when we have money , i mean delays cannot be prevented but delays regarding decisions should be prevented .

 

[Abingdonboy]

While India has shown the world that it tends to spend billions i.e on MMRCA, Destroyers, PAKFA, LCA, Arjun Tanks, Aircraft Carriers, Nuke Subs. China and Pakistan on the other hand have gone undercover and they don't like to share the world real facts.

To prove this, China has secret projects like J-20, J-XX, J-15, J-10B, H-8 Stealth bomber, Aircraft Carriers, Drones, Helicopters. Pakistan on the other hand has been working on JF-17 Blk 2, Blk 3, Al-Khalid Tank 2, H2, H4, Shaheen 3, cruise missile like Babur and Ra'ad (that came from no where), and future armed Drones. Most info on both sides have not been disclosed to the world. It is still a mystery... our defence budget so called 'shown to the world' is inaccurate.

In the end, India's defence budget may seem unlimited/endless because they have disclosed everything to the world quite openly.

Our defence budget??!! Typical Pakistani mindset, China is out "brother" blah blah blah, yeah sure keep believing that. And let me tell you what is disclosed to the public isn't meant to be secret, new fighters, tanks, ACCs are widely publicised in any country (free country). However have no doubt there is much we are not told and are "secret" look at Arihant for example. There are many other projects going on that we are not aware of.

 

[Storm Force]

Typical Pak response.

WE DO EVERYTHING TOP SECRET. like they have space tech which they fear may fall into enemy hands.

LIKE Abingdon said every country (decent country) as full disclourse of arms tech , bugdget and progress good or bad.

They exist in USA Russia India europe and Japan..

 

[Hello_10]

Our defence budget??!! Typical Pakistani mindset, China is out "brother" blah blah blah, yeah sure keep believing that. And let me tell you what is disclosed to the public isn't meant to be secret, new fighters, tanks, ACCs are widely publicised in any country (free country). However have no doubt there is much we are not told and are "secret" look at Arihant for example. There are many other projects going on that we are not aware of.

That’s what I also heard. I even read somewhere that India has missile defence for it’s key cities since 1999, which they keep changing with new missiles on time to time, from Russia/ Israel (including from US also for its nuclear plants). India and Russia have even inducted more than 2 to 4 PAK FA of the type they have tested till now for any very specialised operations for next 1-2 years, until they will induct few more capable PAK FA (just 2 to 4 in number). India even has more than 50 ICBM in number for the targets of over 5000km in concern, they got from Russia. They would first try Indian missiles but if it will not work effectively, they have Russian one also. At the same time, I also heard that India has a credible resistance of even Chemical weapons on its border. A heavy infrastructure of WMDs, Indian Military has also builded up on its border, secretly. And many other similar secret projects are running right now, many of them are being run with Russia. like Arihant you said, didn’t they get Akula-2 submarine 'secretly' which is the deadliest Russian submarine and can deliver nuclear weapons also, 2 more submarines of its type are in progress by Russia, I read somewhere ………. Just information through unreliable sources but they claim to know all these, like through one retired Brigadier and one retired Lt General while talking on different forums, but Im not sure how much they were right……………..

 

[oFFbEAT]

i support that we should reduceour defence expenditure and use the money eliminate poverty and other social issues
Comeon guys we have nuclear weapons no country would be foolish enough to attack us and get nuked

Do you really think.....the money saved from cutting down defense budget, will be used for alleviating poverty????

OR they will end up in Foreign Banks...........

GOI allocates enough money for National Welfare schemes.....If they are used PROPERLY, Poverty would have long gone........
IF, whatever money allocated for poverty alleviation is never utilized, then how can you LOGICALLY assume that, if more money is allocated, it will be utilized??

Even if you stop spending on Defense ALTOGETHER ......you won't be able to eradicate poverty.

You guys don't understand something.......in "one of the world's most corrupt Countries".......there is never enough money for anything.

 

[oFFbEAT]

People like you, gave the same crooked logic regarding India's 'Moon Mission'----Saying, what is the use of spending Billions in Science and technology, when there is so much poverty in India.

Politicians would be most happy to scrap all the Science and Defense projects as they'll have more money available for LOOT.

Whatever money spent on Science and technology are at-least being utilized......BUT we all know, what happens to the money spent(sorry allocated) for National Welfare Schemes.

Therefore, by cutting down funds from such projects.....NEITHER India would be able to PROGRESS, NOR will it be able to DEVELOP.

 

[Hello_10]

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gene..._01_01_2012_p34-403266.xml&headline=Temporary Plateau For Indian Defense Spending&channel=defense

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i hope mmrca stil gets done

but wat impact on pak fa

and future nuke sub programme

Indian defence budget last year was around 1.64 lacs crore rupees (around $40bn at 1$=41 rupees last year) and it would be increased by 10% to 15% this year to 1.8 lacs crore to 1.9 lacs crore rupees (around $36bn to $38bn at 1$=50 rupees) reducing its value by around $2bn in dollar term. But, inflation is likely to be around 7% in march 2012, before the start of next financial year, so Indian military would maintain its requirement of $10bn to $12bn of capital budget and rest around $26bn would be almost same in rupees term to the last year with adjusting inflation also.

So I don’t think depreciation of rupees will have any impact on the health of defence expenditure specially because right now rupees has recovered from 1$=54 rupee of last month level to around 1$=50 rupees right now. also, defence expenditure of $36bn is just around 2% of GDP, far less than many other countries?