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India Cities Ban Eggs, showcasing the tensions around the country’s rising Hindu nationalist movement

what??? when did I (or anyone else?) objected to posting article about India?
Looks like you have basic understanding issues..

haha not surprised as indian you lack basic ability to self reflect. This was your post expressing surprise/sarcasm that internet is looking at indian news:
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It is amusing & fascinating that Indians come to know about what's happening in India from Chinese & Pakistanis.

Yesterday PM Modi in his speech at Kashi which Aurganzeb's cruelty as an invader. A Pakistani posted it here before I came to know about in from India media.

Today this Chinese is posting about some egg ban somewhere in Gujarat which I have not yet read anywhere. "
Some muslim countries ban the consumption of pork and most western countries ban the consumption of dogs and cats, so yes a country is very capable of dictating what you can eat. What India is doing is just taking it to another level.

I am not a vegetarian but I have kids who have no idea that animals are killed on in industrial scale to feed us and I assure you, when they figure this out at school or from their friends, I will be forced to go vegetarian.

If anyone stops and thinks about what it takes to get al the meat on our plate, I am certain that it will become harder and harder to justify the more you think about it.

I am not even sure its safe to be a vegetarian, especial for kids and their brain development, but I think the future will see more and more vegetarians. In a few generations will be harder and harder to justify eating animals.

i doubt muslim countries ban Pork for non-muslims. What india is doing is banning food to people who actually like eating them and historically never had any objections to eating them. With beef ban india effectively took the food away from plates of 40% of population who have been regulary eating them for centuries. with egg ban it wants to effect 80% of them.

It is textbook definition of a fascist state.
 
No wonder the fake news viral social issues.. Brains on low protein is to be blamed

You joke, but I have heard educated Indians pin social problems squarely on lack of protein.

The reason why some Indians are one-track minded and low in IQ can be directly attributed to protein deficiency. Vegetable protein e.g. Daal is not a good substitute.
haha not surprised as indian you lack basic ability to self reflect. This was your post expressing surprise/sarcasm that internet is looking at indian news:
"
It is amusing & fascinating that Indians come to know about what's happening in India from Chinese & Pakistanis.

Yesterday PM Modi in his speech at Kashi which Aurganzeb's cruelty as an invader. A Pakistani posted it here before I came to know about in from India media.

Today this Chinese is posting about some egg ban somewhere in Gujarat which I have not yet read anywhere. "


i doubt muslim countries ban Pork for non-muslims. What india is doing is banning food to people who actually like eating them and historically never had any objections to eating them. With beef ban india effectively took the food away from plates of 40% of population who have been regulary eating them for centuries. with egg ban it wants to effect 80% of them.

It is textbook definition of a fascist state.

In Bangladesh Pork (and all kinds of haram stuff) is openly available for whomever wants it. Usually expats and local Christians/Hindus are customers.

You cannot ban or legislate these things.

Iman is in people's minds, not on the books.
 
i doubt muslim countries ban Pork for non-muslims. What india is doing is banning food to people who actually like eating them and historically never had any objections to eating them. With beef ban india effectively took the food away from plates of 40% of population who have been regulary eating them for centuries. with egg ban it wants to effect 80% of them.

It is textbook definition of a fascist state.

Oh without a doubt, what India is doing is just fascism. It seems very extreme and is like to force a clash with westerners, who genetically can simply never accept that Indians tell them what they can eat and what they cant. It will lead to total outrage and India will suffer. Any westerner I've ever talked to considers India to be a total hellhole. And any talk of India and the way things are done there, invites eye rolling and head shaking even from pro-Indian westerners.

I'm just offering my confused and mixed views on vegetarianism. I would somehow tolerate being forced into vegetarianism. I am developing real problems in eating meat, but at the same time, I know its necessary especially for kids to grow properly and develop their brains.

If I lived in India, it would not be forced vegetarianism that would have me packing my bags on day 1, it would be a million other things starting with hygiene.
 
Of course. We need the above, and melted fat tastes soooo good. And yes we are naturally omnivores, but we are also thinking beings with compassion. I think in the long run our compassion will win out over our dietary needs, or we will find them elsewhere.
Meat is an essential food group which forms part of a balanced diet for healthy body and mental well being, so I think it is misplaced compassion to deny our natural needs. Animals should be treated humanely, but they are meant to be eaten. Believers acknowledge and thank God for it because we are taking life created by God.
 
Oh without a doubt, what India is doing is just fascism. It seems very extreme and is like to force a clash with westerners, who genetically can simply never accept that Indians tell them what they can eat and what they cant. It will lead to total outrage and India will suffer. Any westerner I've ever talked to considers India to be a total hellhole. And any talk of India and the way things are done there, invites eye rolling and head shaking even from pro-Indian westerners.

I'm just offering my confused and mixed views on vegetarianism. I would somehow tolerate being forced into vegetarianism. I am developing real problems in eating meat, but at the same time, I know its necessary especially for kids to grow properly and develop their brains.

If I lived in India, it would not be forced vegetarianism that would have me packing my bags on day 1, it would be a million other things starting with hygiene.

Some of the largest abbattoirs in the world are run in india. Especially in Uttar Pradesh - the state administered by RSS. They slaugther buffaloes by the millions there. These abbattoirs are owned by vegeterians. The hygiene and animal handling facilities there - i expect to be one of the worst.

Indian vegeterianism is not based on respect to animal life or welfare. it is a signal of "purity" and racism.
 
India Cities Ban Eggs, showcasing the tensions around the country’s rising Hindu nationalist movement
Dec. 13, 2021
Food-cart rules spurred by conservative beliefs draw a backlash, showcasing the tensions around the country’s rising Hindu nationalist movement.
AHMEDABAD, India — The raid came just after sunset. Plainclothes municipal workers swarmed into the busy neighborhood, seizing contraband. The dealers ran or watched helplessly as the authorities took their illicit goods.
And with that, the government had conducted a successful crackdown on eggs.
Not just the eggs themselves, though city officials had confiscated hundreds of trays of those, too. The authorities grabbed everything — gas canisters, bread, vegetables, plates, glasses, stools — that one might need to run a food cart to sell eggs scrambled, fried or wrapped in a fragrant breading. On the curb, only broken shells remained.
The food-cart operators who got away counted themselves lucky to have escaped.
“We found out that the truck was approaching our location,” said Virendra Ram Chandra Singh, who added that he could prepare eggs 156 ways. “We ran home with our carts, pushing hard and fast.”
The place of the humble egg in the street food culture of Gujarat, a state in western India where people take their snacks seriously, has become the latest flash point in the growing role of religion in everyday life. Under Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who has a Hindu nationalist base, the national government has taken steps in recent years to promote the religion and to sideline Muslims and other groups.
Emboldened local governments have followed suit, enacting rules in some places that adhere closely to Hindu doctrine. That is especially true in Gujarat, which Mr. Modi led for 13 years before becoming prime minister and which is often seen as a laboratory for pushing policies to reshape India along his Hindu nationalist vision. Those include tightening a ban on alcohol and adding protections against the slaughter of cattle, which many Hindus consider sacred.
But even devout Hindus don’t always agree among themselves what practices the faithful should follow, a conflict that also raises issues of income and class. Hence the bitter disagreement over eggs.
Many Hindus are vegetarian,
particularly among the elite within India’s traditional caste system, and some of them consider eggs to be meat products.

Citing complaints from Hindus as well as health concerns, local officials in Ahmedabad, Gujarat’s largest city, and at least four other cities in mid-November banned the sale and display of meat, fish and eggs on the street. As the mayor of one city, Rajkot, told the local news media: “Carts with nonvegetarian food can be seen everywhere in the city. The religious sentiments of the people are hurt by this.”

The local authorities weren’t expecting the backlash. In recent days, facing a lawsuit and protests, officials in Ahmedabad relented and allowed sales of previously forbidden food to resume for now, though the dispute is being considered by the courts. They did not respond to requests for comment.

Top leaders with Mr. Modi’s Bharatiya Janata Party, which dominates politics in Gujarat, deflected blame to local officials. “Some people eat vegetarian food,” the state’s chief minister, Bhupendra Patel, told local media. “Some people eat nonvegetarian food. The B.J.P. government does not have any problem with it.”


India has no shortage of feelings about food. Practices vary widely by region and by caste. In the northeastern state of Assam, Hindus tuck into fish tenga curry, a sour and savory treat tempered with tomatoes and elephant apples. In the southern state of Kerala, the appeal of a chicken roast — tender pieces of meat marinated in curd and red chili powder — crosses religious and social lines.

With Hindu nationalism on the rise, food has drawn more headlines. Hundreds of people lost their jobs when one of the B.J.P.-led states in northern India began shutting down slaughterhouses. Muslims accused of slaughtering cows have been lynched by mobs. In the southern state of Karnataka, one Hindu leader has vowed to protest a plan by some local officials to provide eggs for school lunches.

Those beliefs can run counter to India’s economic goals and changing social mores. Consumption of eggs in India has grown substantially in recent years as more families have entered the middle class. They now eat 81 per person per year on average. (Americans average more than twice that.)


The central government hopes eggs will become a growing source of protein. Higher egg consumption could help the country’s troubled farm sector. Government forecasters have called for increased chicken and egg consumption, enough to double farmers’ income and prevent child malnutrition.

India’s egg producers have pushed hard to win over a new generation. In a commercial for egg growers, the nutritional impact of eggs settles a dispute between Sunil Gavaskar, Rahul Dravid and Kapil Dev, three legendary Indian cricketers.


The anti-egg campaign amounts to a pushback by conservative Hindus, particularly among the upper caste, who believe that consuming them isn’t conducive to spiritual progress.

“They want people to believe that vegetarian food is the civilized food,” said Ghanshyam Shah, a retired professor of political sociology living in Ahmedabad. “That is part of their old culture.”

Gujarat officials, he said, “have an agenda to make their state a Hindu first state” by dictating a unified cultural and value system.

The ban on eggs certainly had its fans.

Naresh Kansara, an official at a large Hindu temple in Ahmedabad, said that it was wrong to sell nonvegetarian food nearby. “Why don’t they eat at a hotel, away from public view?” he said. “Why so openly?”


Still, the egg ban caused an uproar. The confiscation of carts in November galvanized street vendors, who began protesting outside government offices.

Mr. Singh, the Ahmedabad food cart operator who escaped the November crackdown, migrated from poorer Bihar State in the 1990s during a period of economic liberation. Bit by bit, he built a name for himself on the versatility of his eggs.

Mr. Singh boasts about the egg dishes his customers love the most. There is the John Paratha, a three-egg omelet topped with bread crumbs to make it crispy and stuffed with mayonnaise, cheese, onion, tomato and coriander salad that is rolled up inside a soft Indian bread. Nargis, a dish named after a famous Bollywood actress from the 1960s, is made of a mince of boiled eggs, softened with cream and served with buns and chapatis. The mahi roll masala is a three-egg omelet with cheese, onions, tomatoes and green chilies.

He set up the cart across from a sprawling public park that attracted families and students. Demand led him to hire four employees.

The president of the street vendors’ association in Gujarat, Rakesh Maheriya, said mostly Hindu vendors and customers were being punished. Many vendors are from the lower castes, a large voting bloc, and many Hindu customers were incensed as well.


Dhara Patel, a 20-year-old engineering student who consumed her favorite dish, minced eggs, a few times a week in the roadside stalls near her college, said the meal was her only source of protein.

“Why does the government have a problem if we want to eat eggs?” she said. “It’s also about the livelihoods of those street vendors.”

Though the local government now says coercive action won’t be taken against egg sellers, municipal officials have yet to rescind their ban formally. Vendors said they had been given assurances that they could come back.

Still, along the lakeside road where they once sold their eggs, the number of food carts has dwindled, a sign to them that the egg crackdown is far from over.

“Who knows how long we will be allowed to be here?” Mr. Singh said. “They can do anything, anytime.”

A good reason why partition had to happen. Muslims have very different beliefs from Hindus. A United South Asia would never have worked out.
 
Some muslim countries ban the consumption of pork and most western countries ban the consumption of dogs and cats, so yes a country is very capable of dictating what you can eat. What India is doing is just taking it to another level.

You are of European origin hence find vegetarianism weird

Vegetarianism diet is not a choice in Indian subcontinent but adapting to climatic conditions

Unlike Europe, Indian subcontinent is very hot and meat consumption cannot be sustained here as meat rots in a span of hours whereas in Europe during winters they can stored in cellars for few days.

However, the climate is favorable to grow crops all over the year and hence people from the subcontinent in general consume over lower per capita meat compared to rest

Meat diet has become affordable over the centuries due to advancements in the meat industry

Banning food for religious sentiments is stupidity

Luckily, Indian Govt thankfully so far have not allowed Indians to consume wildlife animals like pangolins, bears, tigers etc

Had that been allowed, India would have a global disease incubator giving the world pandemics every two or three decades

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I guess no more garam anday for Indians...
I too eat two eggs in my breakfast. Cannot fathom the idea of not having them. They are the cheapest form of protein.

When my late father was very ill the doctors had prescribed a powdered food that was made of egg.
 
haha not surprised as indian you lack basic ability to self reflect. This was your post expressing surprise/sarcasm that internet is looking at indian news:
"
It is amusing & fascinating that Indians come to know about what's happening in India from Chinese & Pakistanis.

Yesterday PM Modi in his speech at Kashi which Aurganzeb's cruelty as an invader. A Pakistani posted it here before I came to know about in from India media.

Today this Chinese is posting about some egg ban somewhere in Gujarat which I have not yet read anywhere. "
ok, thanks for letting me know how 'intelligent' you are.
 
Though I'm a hard-core vegetarian because of my family I have always respected other people diet..... I recollect of ordering non vegetarian food for my Thai friend in my strict vegetarian house..... Off course it was in the absence of my parents.....

But coming to the topic..... Some Hindus in India make a big issue of such things..... I mean common grow up you can't force vegetarianism on other people...... it's a personal choice or the way you have grown up.....

If someone ask me on this topic I will only say no hindu, muslim or catholic is designed to eat non vegetarian food..... Do we have jaws and claws like those non vegetarian hunter animals??? No absolutely no..... But this doesn't mean I will not respect their eating habits....

Nehru was a meat eater, and big one at that. He had a Lankese cook, who cooked him French dishes.
 
Maas machi sy dharam bharasht ho jaata hai -------. Yeh vichaar oonchi jaati valay indian middle/elite class k hain.


Flesh and fish puts your faith in jeopardy -------. This belief is very much prevalent in the upper caste indian middle/elite class.
 
Maas machi sy dharam bharasht ho jaata hai -------. Yeh vichaar oonchi jaati valay indian middle/elite class k hain.


Flesh and fish puts your faith in jeopardy -------. This belief is very much prevalent in the upper caste indian middle/elite class.
Thats fine. No one is forcing them to eat but why are they forcing others especially children not to eat the food they like.
 

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