India, China should cast off shadow of history, move forward: Dai

[帅的一匹]

that is unlikely... also already Pakistan and China are against us.



everything is possible under the table...if India wants to give nukes secretly no one will know.. and no sanctions..

No one will know? Are you sure about that? You seem live in your own world, never take anything for granted.

 

[rashtriya.rifles]

周恩来总理在1955年的万隆会议上已经阐述过这一主张，他指出，“中国同一些相接壤的国家的边界尚未确定，在这些边界尚未确定之前，我们同意维 持现状，并约束我们的政府和人民不越过边界一步。"This is history,people from both sides are crossing the line of actual control every day now.

And vietnam would use nukes.. Whats your point ?

 

[timetravel]

Every nuclear detonation has it's own signature because of the level of purification of Uranium. If any detonation happens, it'll be directly traced back to us. So everyone will know.

Get some common sense before talking.

the thing is with Nukes Beijing would not attack Vietnam. so there is no question of detonation. Also its not like your fingerprints.. obviously the levels of purity could be changed. India dont need to provide its signature nukes to them. and do you know the level of purity of Indian nukes. I doubt its a public info.

 

[Tractor]

And vietnam would use nukes.. Whats your point ?

No,nothing about Vietnam,I mean something about your Arunachal.

 

[Rig Vedic]

We don't want India to be our enemy, maybe not our friend either.

India media is too focused on revenge for 1962, what a pity!

Not really revenge for 1962, but there are other issues ... from another thread (slightly edited) -

Yes, India and China had a border dispute, and it is true that Nehru was a first class idiot in many ways, but it could have been handled in a low-key manner. In the 1962 conflict China did not gain any territory that it was not already occupying, as far as I know, but the episode damaged relations seriously.

The British were responsible for the creation of Pakistan for their own strategic needs, and the Americans have been giving financial and military support.

After the conflict of 1962 the effort should have been to heal the rift, but China decided to enable the terrorist strategy of the British-created state by giving nuclear technology. So that made China a contributor to a terrorist war against the common person on the street.

 

[xuxu1457]

And vietnam would use nukes.. Whats your point ?

??? an unnuke country threaten use nukes to China, does VN fool????

 

[Skull and Bones]

the thing is with Nukes Beijing would not attack Vietnam. so there is no question of detonation. Also its not like your fingerprints.. obviously the levels of purity could be changed. India dont need to provide its signature nukes to them. and do you know the level of purity of Indian nukes. I doubt its a public info.

If the level of purity can be changed like your mouth farts, then India would have been detonating nukes of megaton yield and not hundred of kilotons. And if they don't detonate nuke, then how'll Beijing know they have one?

And the signature is not written by pen over the warhead, it's how much pure the uranium is. The percentage varies between 98% to 99.5%.

God, it feels like i'm debating with idiots.

 

[帅的一匹]

nukes are to prevent China from engaging Vietnam into any conflict. Full blown conventional warfare is tilted in China's favour.

We had border conflicts with Vietnam from 1979 to 1989, was Vietnam get nuked or get destroyed? If there is a country providing nuke shield for Vietnam, it will be USA not India.

 

[timetravel]

lets leave this debate on Vietnam being provided or not provided nukes from Indian side. The issue here is that Indian and Chinese relations are not just dependent upon the border dispute. It has many more dimensions to it like Pakistan, SCS, String of pearls also. So the underlying theme is that the CCP is following aggressive policies on all these fronts and seems to beleive strongly in the saying "power flows from the barrel of gun".

Can India be peaceful and friendly towards China if China continues to be aggression so many different fronts against India. Also will India be disguised by the peace gestures from China on its border, while it continues on the aggressive posture on the other fronts only to come back and haunt India at a latter date in future. Will India be calm on SCS and pay its price in future like it remained calm on Tibet and is suffering now. All this remains to be seen.

But for friendly relations and not just business relations, China will need to come clean on SCS, Pakistan, String of pearly and Border issue. All these aspects are interrelated.

If the level of purity can be changed like your mouth farts, then India would have been detonating nukes of megaton yield and not hundred of kilotons. And if they don't detonate nuke, then how'll Beijing know they have one?

And the signature is not written by pen over the warhead, it's how much pure the uranium is. The percentage varies between 98% to 99.5%.

God, it feels like i'm debating with idiots.

and this range of 98 to 99.5 is copyrighted by India. is it? and if India can make 99% purity they can also make 98% purity. How you would tell its India who made it or US or Russia or Japan when they all can also make 98% purity.

 

[Skull and Bones]

and this range of 98 to 99.5 is copyrighted by India. is it? and if India can make 99% purity they can also make 98% purity. How you would tell its India who made it or US or Russia or Japan when they all can also make 98% purity.

It's safe to assume Indian purification is close to 98.5-99% given the yield, also the triggering mechanism affects the yield of nuclear blast. In short (get it right in your head), nuclear detonation can be traced back very easily.

P.S: Japan isn't allowed to enrich uranium above around 70%, just enough pure for nuclear fission power generation.

 

[帅的一匹]

How much you gonna cut by stubbornly selling Vietnam nuke dude? For God sake! Gesus Christ!

 

[timetravel]

It's safe to assume Indian purification is close to 98.5-99% given the yield, also the triggering mechanism affects the yield of nuclear blast. In short (get it right in your head), nuclear detonation can be traced back very easily.

Just tell me how would you tell its India, US, Japan, Russia, UK or French when they all can make the level of purity of nuclear weapon which India can make.

and also we know openly that China is providing such weapons to Pakistan. It did not stop them from providing to them despite we knowing openly about it.

So even if the Chinese would know on detonation that we provided, it doesn't matter. What is important is Nukes with Vietnam would make Chinese desist from attacking Vietnam, which shall solve our purpose. The purpose if to stop any moves from China on Vietnam and not to get Vietnam to blow China with Nukes.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Just tell me how would you tell its India, US, Japan, Russia, UK or French when they all can make the level of purity of nuclear weapon which India can make.

Triggering device also effects yield?

Japan can't purify beyond 80%. US, UK, France, Russia won't proliferate nukes given their excellent past record, and they don't have anything to gain by selling nukes to Vietnam.

Infact in Sino-Vietnam war, most will indirectly support China for the massive Chinese trade and investment in those countries. facts?

How much you gonna cut by stubbornly selling Vietnam nuke dude? For God sake! Gesus Christ!

Jesus spelling wrong.

 

[neehar]

India is not an aggressive country in culture and history, no one really think India is a threat, Indian is not good at war

thank u..i take it as a compliment

 

[bloo]

wikki :o
i can also make indians biggest terrorist of the world by using wikki..
use a real source buddy...

Do try, i'll be waiting
AND FYI I did use REAL source
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