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Sri Lanka National Security Council took this issue very seriously.

Sri Lanka Air force already moved its Mi-35 Attack helicopters to Air bases which face Maldives. If India’s helicopters entered Sri Lankan Air space from Maldives they will be intercepted by Sri Lanka Air force.

China already delivered JY-11 3D Radars to Sri Lanka so Sri Lanka can detect any Air movements easily, JY-11 3D Radars fully operational in all Air bases in Sri Lanka.

I should say every year 600 Sri Lankan military troops trained in China.
(200 Air force + 200 Navy + 200 Army = 600)

Sri Lankan military troops also trained in USA, Pakistan & Russia.

If Maldives will allow any Anti-Sri Lanka activities in Maldives then Maldives will pay a heavy price for that.

Sri Lanka already launched its Military Modernization & Expansion program between 2010 – 2020.

We dont have to send our Helo's to Lanka.

I can stand on the coast of Rameshwaram and throw a granade which will end up in Lanka.

Before threatening us please think.

Lanka is 100% dependent on India in terms of Oil. Lanka's Petrol and Diesel prices are quite cheap as it comes directly from India through Indian Oil's subsidy of Indian Oil Lanka.

The moment India turn the keys you are dependent on dear China or Dear Pakistan to provide you oil which will apparently increase the prices and infliation.

Dont forget the buses you travel, the autos you travel, the Tata Sumo's that you travel the bike you travel all comes from India.

Neither we are afraid of couple of hundred trained soldiers outside of Sri Lanka coz we ourselves have trained many of your soldiers till date and aware of their capability.

Hence please dont threat us with Mi-35's (we have a lot of them).

and keep it in mind that my city's population alone is greater than the whole of Lankan population.

GB
 
well it is clear world will be divided

americas, europe, australia, japan, south korea, india, israel

v/s

russia, china, north korea, islamic states

---------- Post added at 06:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:52 AM ----------

the party has begun guys !! :)


japan and russia can still be regarded as "swing states" imo
 
India to seal defence pact with Maldives

Press Trust of India / New Delhi August 19, 2009, 14:53 IST

Amid fears by Maldives that one of its island resorts could be taken over by terrorists in the absence of military assets, India will sign a defence pact with that country during Defence Minister A K Antony's three-day visit there.

The agreement envisages Indian help to Maldives in setting up a network of ground radars in all its atolls and linking them with the Indian Coastal Command.

Indian Navy and Coast Guard warships would patrol Maldives' pirate-infested waters and secure it from terror threats under the agreement which comes after Male conveyed its fear to New Delhi.

Antony, who will lead a high-level delegation, will hold discussion with Maldivian President Mohammed Nasheed, apart from government leaders and the military top brass.

He will also hold bilateral discussions with his counterpart Ameen Faisal on ways of expanding military cooperation between the two countries, a Defence Ministry spokesperson said today.

The Defence Minister's delegation will comprise ministry's Secretary Pradeep Kumar, Armed Forces Medical Services Director General Lt Gen N K Parmar, Coast Guard Director General Vice Admiral Anil Chopra and Deputy Chief of Navy Staff Vice Admiral D K Joshi.Antony will also attend the closing session of the India-Maldives Friendship event, besides paying a visit to the Indira Gandhi Memorial Hospital, the most visible symbol of Indo-Maldives cooperation and friendship.

The 200-bed general and speciality hospital, established by India, has over the years provided Maldives greater self-reliance in the field of medical care.

The two countries share ethnic, linguistic, cultural, religious and commercial links steeped in antiquity and enjoy close, cordial and multi-dimensional relations.

India was among the first to recognise Maldives after Independence in 1965 and to establish diplomatic relations with the country.

New Delhi's prompt assistance during the 1988 coup attempt, when Indian armed forces repulsed the Sri Lankan Tamil military group's attack on Maldives but withdrew after the crisis was defused, marked a watershed in bilateral ties. India was the first to rush relief and aid to Maldives when Tsunami struck the island in 2004.

In April 2006, India gifted a fast attack craft, INS Tillanchang, to Maldives as a goodwill gesture.

India to seal defence pact with Maldives
 
No agreement signed during Antony’s visit to Maldives

The Defence Minister A.K. Antony’s visit to the Maldives last week seems to have stirred politics in the placid waters around Male, following media reports of an impending defence pact between the two countries to set up a chain of radars across some atolls in the island nation.

Though there has been no official confirmation here about the decision, Defence Ministry spokesman Sitanshu Kar on Tuesday said no agreement was signed during Mr. Antony’s August 20-22 visit.

Maldives media mentioned the move in the run-up to the visit, quoting Indian news reports that the agreement envisages setting up some 20-odd radars to provide surveillance coverage. The data generated was to be fed into an Indian command centre, and to be used for joint naval and army exercises.

Following the publication of these reports, opposition parties picked it up, linking the development and its possible effect on Maldives sovereignty.

Subsequently, reports from Male said President Mohammed Nasheed had referred to these reports as a speculation during his radio address last week.

The report quoted Mr. Nasheed as saying that stories about the development affecting the country’s sovereignty were incorrect, and that his government would do nothing that would affect the country’s sovereignty and independence.

The President made these observations when Mr. Antony was in the country.

“Continued support”
During the visit, Mr. Antony, in a press conference at Male, reiterated New Delhi’s continued support in assisting the Maldives National Defence Force (MNDF) in its efforts to build capacity and enhance capability.

He expressed confidence that the two defence forces would continue to work closely to ensure a peaceful maritime environment in the sea around both India and the Maldives, and to establish a joint mechanism to challenge the common scourge of terrorism, drug trafficking, and piracy.

India, Mr. Antony said, would transfer a Dhruv helicopter to the Maldives for use by its National Defence Force, and announced that the scope of the ongoing joint MNDF Marines/Army and Coast Guard exercises would be enhanced.

He also said a hydrographic survey and other joint events, including surveillance and coordinated patrolling by the Indian Navy and MDNF Coast Guard ships, would continue.
 

September 19. 2009

NEW DELHI: In an apparent attempt to counter China’s growing sway in the strategically important Indian Ocean region, India has signed a bilateral pact with the Maldives, in which the two countries have agreed to bolster defence co-operation that is officially aimed at fortifying the security of the tiny archipelago.

Under the agreement, India will set up a sensitive radar network across the Maldives’ 26 atolls, which will be monitored by the Indian military.

The president of the Maldives, Mohamed Nasheed, said last week that “[our] partner and excellent neighbour, India, has stood by Maldives during trying times”.

Brushing aside speculation that India will build naval bases in the Maldives or that New Delhi wants to interfere in its internal affairs, Mr Nasheed said: “India is not trying to influence us. It is we who asked India to provide the radars, apart from seeking co-operation on other security matters.”

But analysts have hinted that India has a big stake in military co-operation with the Maldives.

Siddharth Srivastava, a New Delhi-based India-China relationship expert, said that for some time India had been considering the possibility of “a naval base and a listening post in the Maldives to contain Beijing’s growing muscle” in the region.

Last month, when the Indian defence minister, AK Antony, visited Male, the Maldivian capital, accompanied by a high powered Indian military delegation that included two top navy officials, details about the installation of the radar network across the Maldives was discussed and a pact for co-operation was signed.

At the end of Mr Antony’s three-day visit, reports in Maldivian newspapers said that the two sides had discussed the threat of terrorism in the region, among other security-related subjects.

The Indian defence ministry described the co-operation pact between New Delhi and Male as “natural between two good friends and equal partners”, while a ministry spokesman said India and the Maldives had agreed on a “series of measures, to step up defence co-operation”.

Explaining part of the deal, Mr Antony said the Maldivian authorities had expressed concerns over the “crucial tasks of safeguarding and protecting their vast exclusive economic zone while stating its need to develop and enhance maritime surveillance and aerial mobility capabilities”.

Mr Nasheed said last week that the installation of some of the Indian radars across 10 atolls was already in progress. As many commentators in the Maldivian media accused the radar plan as Indian encroachment on the Maldives’ sovereignty, Mr Nasheed said the defence engagement with India was mostly in the interest of the Maldives.

The president responded by saying massive poaching of coral and illegal commercial fishing by foreign trawlers taking place in Maldivian waters has had a “deleterious” impact on the country’s marine life and with India’s help the Maldives would curb such illegal activities.

Sources inside the Indian defence ministry also sought to allay fears within the Maldives – which does not have a navy of its own – and pointed out that Indian navy and coastguard warships would patrol the pirate-infested waters around the country and that the deal will also help India secure a significant part of its own territory, including the Andaman and Nicobar chains of islands.

Mr Srivastava said New Delhi had for some years been looking to set up a base in the Maldives, also in an effort to thwart a possible seaborne terror attack on India, as occurred last year in Mumbai.

“The Maldives being a Muslim country, India is wary about the influence that Pakistan may exert, including the possibility of infiltration by terror cells to launch attacks in India, as has happened in Bangladesh,” said Mr Srivastava.

Recently the administration of US President Barack Obama identified the Maldives as vulnerable to terrorists and he issued a pledge to provide military equipment and services to the country.

One day after Mr Obama issued the pledge, Robert Blake, US assistant secretary of state for South and Central Asian affairs, who is a former ambassador to the Maldives, said there were “terrorists that come through the Maldives – that transit through the Maldives.

“They face a particular challenge in terms of maintaining the ability to monitor what’s going on in their seas. They also sit astride some of the major sea-lanes in the world. So, it’s very important that they have the ability to monitor activity,” Mr Blake told Indian media.

However, most analysts see India’s military positioning in the Maldives as a furtherance of its long-term military deterrence goals against China.

In Pakistan’s Gwadar port in Baluchistan and Sri Lanka’s southern tip of Hambantota, China has been developing deep-water ports. In Bangladesh, Myanmar and Nepal too, it is helping to develop ports and other infrastructure projects.

India is concerned about China’s “string of pearls” strategy – a phrase used by western security experts to describe the way China is encircling India by establishing pockets of military and diplomatic influence in the countries surrounding India.

Sujan Dutta, a security analyst for the Telegraph newspaper in India, believes that just as China is doing, India is aiming to expand its influence in the Indian Ocean region and an Indian base in the Maldives is a move in that direction.

“This is how New Delhi hopes to sell the idea of a listening post in Addu Atoll to Male: You have concerns over your environmentally fragile exclusive economic zone and about patrolling and policing your far-flung islands, some of which are uninhabited. And we, the Indian navy, are the ‘regional stabilising force’ in the Indian Ocean,” he said.

India seals bilateral pact with Maldives - The National Newspaper
 
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17 October 2009,

NEW DELHI: As part of the overall strategy to prevent China from further spreading its influence in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR), India is sending a Dornier aircraft to Maldives to help the country in maritime surveillance.

Defence ministry sources said an Indian Navy Dornier would begin its maritime reconnaissance missions from Male over the weekend. This comes in the backdrop of defence minister A K Antony's recent visit to Maldives, where he promised measures to bolster defence cooperation with Maldives.

Under the new plan, India will apparently help Maldives set up a network of ground radars in all its 26 atolls and link them with the Indian military surveillance systems.

Moreover, amid fears in Male that one of its island resorts could be taken over by terrorists, India will also provide Maldives with a couple of helicopters, as also help patrol its territorial waters with both warships and reconnaissance aircraft.

India has taken several steps to build bridges with IOR nations, which range from joint patrols with Indonesian and Sri Lankan navies and exercises with Singapore and Oman to providing seaward security for international summits in Mozambique.

Maldives, in particular, constitutes an important part of this strategy since China is making persistent moves in the region as part of its military diplomacy.


India, on its part, has always been willing to help Maldives in times of crisis. Indian paratroopers and naval warships, for instance, were rushed to Maldives in November 1988 by the Rajiv Gandhi government under Operation Cactus to thwart the coup attempt against the Abdul Gayoom government.

Similarly, India had deployed two ships and four aircraft to Maldives after the killer tsunami struck in end-2004. "In April 2006, India gifted a fast attack craft INS Tillanchang to Maldives as a goodwill gesture. Apart from training, hydrographic and military assistance, our ships visit the country regularly,'' said an officer.

India sending Dornier aircraft to Maldives for surveillance mission - India - The Times of India
 
Sri Lanka National Security Council took this issue very seriously.

Sri Lanka Air force already moved its Mi-35 Attack helicopters to Air bases which face Maldives. If India’s helicopters entered Sri Lankan Air space from Maldives they will be intercepted by Sri Lanka Air force.

China already delivered JY-11 3D Radars to Sri Lanka so Sri Lanka can detect any Air movements easily, JY-11 3D Radars fully operational in all Air bases in Sri Lanka.

I should say every year 600 Sri Lankan military troops trained in China.
(200 Air force + 200 Navy + 200 Army = 600)

Sri Lankan military troops also trained in USA, Pakistan & Russia.

If Maldives will allow any Anti-Sri Lanka activities in Maldives then Maldives will pay a heavy price for that.

Sri Lanka already launched its Military Modernization & Expansion program between 2010 – 2020.

My dear SriLankan,
Havent you ever realised at what cost we have supported you and assisted you in your civil war??? Have you seen any world
country adopting such rational approach towards extremism and radicalism by slaughtering terrorism in any form or nature, even by letting-down our own kiths and kins if they are against the interest of majority in the society??? Haven’t you realized we have done a great sacrifice by supporting your every move at the cost of extreme displeasure from our fellow tamil brothers and sisters…..???Even when Aunt EU and Uncle SAM were against you in the IMF for your inhuman behavior by shelling 1000’s of innocent civilians in the war zone still India voted in favor of you for your IMF grant…remember…all this is done not because we are in need of your help or support or because we are afraid of your all-mighty SriLankan army. Its because we have a moral responsibility behind a few issues happening in your country…our previous leaders have not dealt the issues appropriately and mistakes were committed by not handling the humanitarian issues in the right way at that time…so we all bear the blood stains of our siblings in our hands now . For a greater good we have to forgive a smaller crime….the greater good is being the interest of the nation off-course…
Now…

Sri Lanka Air force already moved its Mi-35 Attack helicopters to Air bases which face Maldives. If India’s helicopters entered Sri Lankan Air space from Maldives they will be intercepted by Sri Lanka Air force. .
Well…well… are you threatening us with your toys huh??? Didn’t you realiz that your air force could not even stand against and stop the LTTE readymade flying crafts and stop them from bombing your capital… have some sane thinking before giving such ridiculous threats…
China already delivered JY-11 3D Radars to Sri Lanka so Sri Lanka can detect any Air movements easily, JY-11 3D Radars fully operational in all Air bases in Sri Lanka. .
we know what your RADARS and your men are capable off….during the war it was the Indian officers who taught you how to read the ABCD form the radar screens…so don’t teach us what JY-11 3D Radars are capable off…
I should say every year 600 Sri Lankan military troops trained in China.
(200 Air force + 200 Navy + 200 Army = 600)

Sri Lankan military troops also trained in USA, Pakistan & Russia. .

So what??? are you trying to scare us??? Even for the incompetent sri-lankan troops India teaches them how to hold their rifle…

If Maldives will allow any Anti-Sri Lanka activities in Maldives then Maldives will pay a heavy price for that. .
I see here that you refer the interest of India towards maldives as “Anti-Sri Lanka activities”. You are making such preposterous statements because you are overwhelmed by the support of China and Pakistan…I see here you are digging your own grave here…blink your eyes and step in to reality…as some one rightly said the time has come to choose your friend and foe…take the right decision…
 
Hope peace and trade prevails between India / china..cause with the way things are going.. War or skirmish somewhere in future looks eminent.
 
India is in Huge arms race.. i guess it is not for just putting a credible deterrent..probably little more then that..Look at Indo / US joint exercise..Its massive..biggest india ever had with another country ever.
 
India should control Anti-Sri Lanka activists in Tamil Nadu state, some people in Tamil Nadu state supporting Anti-Sri Lanka activists.

Political parties like Vidudhalai Siruthaigal & PMK supports LTTE but what can they do against Sri Lanka when Indian Government is against the terrorists?
 
Maldivian president on five-day visit to India

According to diplomatic sources, Indian companies, coinciding with the visit, will announce plans to establish major infrastructure facilities in the northern Maldives that could attract investment to the tune of $400-500 million.

The projects identified include an international airport, a port with trans-shipment facility, and tourism development. “Work by the Indian companies interested in development of infrastructure services is to begin in the near future,”

The potential danger (rise in sea level due to climate change) is so acute that the country’s leadership has been thinking aloud about buying a new “homeland” for its 3,30,000 people in Australia, India or Sri Lanka.:eek:

Maldives Army special forces start training in India

While India is setting up a series of radar stations and has started conducting regular aircraft sorties over the island nation to ensure its security, the elite special forces of the Maldives National Defence Force (MNDF) have started training at Belgaum.

A batch of close to 50 soldiers and officers from the MNDF commenced a junior leader wing training exercise at Belgaum on Monday. Over the next two weeks, they will undergo a series of exercises to derive from the experience of the Indian Army units that have been battle hardened in counter-insurgency warfare.

Sources said this is the second in a series of counter-terrorism exercises with the island nation and would become a regular affair, given India’s commitment to help Maldives improve its security setup.
 
We dont have to send our Helo's to Lanka.

I can stand on the coast of Rameshwaram and throw a granade which will end up in Lanka.

Before threatening us please think.

Lanka is 100% dependent on India in terms of Oil. Lanka's Petrol and Diesel prices are quite cheap as it comes directly from India through Indian Oil's subsidy of Indian Oil Lanka.

The moment India turn the keys you are dependent on dear China or Dear Pakistan to provide you oil which will apparently increase the prices and infliation.

Dont forget the buses you travel, the autos you travel, the Tata Sumo's that you travel the bike you travel all comes from India.

Neither we are afraid of couple of hundred trained soldiers outside of Sri Lanka coz we ourselves have trained many of your soldiers till date and aware of their capability.

Hence please dont threat us with Mi-35's (we have a lot of them).

and keep it in mind that my city's population alone is greater than the whole of Lankan population.

GB

bro don't loose your cool replying to him...what does he know of the foreign policies of SL?
 
China is more than welcome to station their battleships in Gwadar and Karachi its a matter of National Security we are facing threat from both sides East and West Pakistan is in deep trouble right next to us is US and than India (Backstabbing history and champions of cheap tactics) i would only like to say one thing that every brick will be replied with bullets.Pakistan & China should get an airbase in Sri-Lanka always keep these India armed forces on bait.

you welcome foreign powers in your backyard...why do you want Sril Lanka to follow suit?
aren't you all unhappy with the US breaching Pakistan's airspace and sovereignty?
is that a good example to follow?
As far as i know..we've never asked the Lankans for an airbase or a mil base...
as far as the maldives asking for our security net is concerned..that's because we've already helped them in the past...agaisnt the LTTE...the marcos commandos prevented a coup in maldives when the LTTE tried to seize power...and this is why I hate people who blindly associate LTTE with RAW...we have lost our own blood fighting the LTTE dammit!!!
and our Prime minister too...
besides the maldives would get submerged in a few decades due to global warming...a majority would be moving to India...as they have bought lands here...they'd surely want to be welcomed then wouldn't they?
 
besides the Maldives would get submerged in a few decades due to global warming...a majority would be moving to India...as they have bought lands here...they'd surely want to be welcomed then wouldn't they?

Hopefully it wont have to come to that.
If the Maldives sink that the majority of the worlds greatest cities will follow suit, being all located near the cost. Including my home city.

Hopefully if we can halt global warming in the coming decade, we can find a way to to fix the damage already done.

India and China have a key role to play in this, hopefully Since India is still behind China the newer Infrastructure we build will provide cleaner energy.

and China's realization of how much damage pollution has done, have created a new green policy.

The best thing India can do to assist Maldives, and the world is to reduce its impact on global warming. It has taken steps but more is needed.
I went a bit off topic didn't I
 
The Hindu : News / International : “Help curb illegal activity in Indian Ocean Rim”

Maldives President Mohamed Nasheed called on New Delhi to take a more active role in the Indian Ocean Rim to curb illegal activity and dispelled the impression of India having leant on Maldives to install radars on its territory.

Maldives had seven radars bought and installed with Indian assistance but “others might say India has gone there and installed these radar stations. It is not really that. It is simply a question of our asking, they didn’t ask or tell us they wanted to install radars. We took the initiative and we asked the Indian government and they were in a sense fairly hesitant,” Mr. Nasheed told The Hindu in an interview.

“We were good in presenting our case. And if we suffer, it will be a burden on India. It is a question of technology transfer and Indians have been good in supplying technology,” he clarified following reports, in a section of the global media, of Indian ‘expansionism.’

Only on Tuesday, Mr. Nasheed pointed out, did the India-Maldives security partnership lead to the capture of two rogue fishing vessels in Maldives’ waters. “We don’t go into other country’s territories and steal their resources. Everyone else is free to buy our fish but please don’t steal our fish. Thankfully because of arrangements with the Indian military and establishment, we were very successful and the people of Maldives were very happy because of this.”

Drawing attention to the dangers of piracy, Mr. Nasheed felt that India should be “very bold” and ensure that the whole of Indian Ocean Rim is secure since this could prove to be its soft underbelly. “Unless the Indian Ocean Rim countries are secure I don’t think India should feel its landmass is secure,” he said.

The Maldivian President said Male was committed to sharing information with India because “the idea is we are friends. If someone is going to come and rob you and if we know about it, we will tell you. In my mind it is very simple.”

Another red signal for the security of Maldives was coming from Pakistan. Mr. Nasheed wanted the international community including India to help Islamabad “finish” the issue of terrorism. Some people from the Maldives going to Pakistan were getting in touch with Taliban and the Al Qaeda. “As long as that goes on and there is opportunity to recruit people from elsewhere and run a terror network, it is going to be very difficult to put our house in order. So we would like to see the Pakistani military succeed in what they are doing now,” he said. “I hope the Pakistan government will push and finish the issue. And I wish the international community would assist Pakistan in doing this. And I also hope India would also assist Pakistan...”
 
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