India asked American tourists on 'conversion drive'to leave

[kingkobra]

If the Indian Hindu tribals believe in curing by this water then whats wrong in it? after all they also believed in everything on earth as a god and had been worshiping many objects.

Isnt parshad is presented as something sacred ??

what you see illegal in it if they are accepting what is being promoted to them by their free will.

haha so according to you fooling people is not illegal???
only fools can bring such law in foolishland..

and do you know anything about prasad??
prasad is something that we offer to god to show that we are thankful for everything he has given to us...then we distribute that prasad among people..

 

[nForce]

are they threat to Indian social, religious structure ? or in any other way?

seems like the event has caught attention of a lot of people,mostly the wrong kind of attention.Hence it is better to contain the situation before situation gets any more volatile.There are a lot of Christian missionaries in Kerala.In fact I think,Christians are in majority in Kerala.They will do their job just fine.

Besides there is one clear case of violation,that is organizing gatherings,and at least one alleged case of violation,that is providing material benefits for conversion.Both are prohibited by law.
These people are like guests to our country.So,they should behave courteously.If they dont,then actions can be taken against them.

 

[Spring Onion]

If poor people get money, medicine or anything else that increase their chances of living, and in turn change their religion, whats wrong in that? Those opposing these conversions, why dont they provide the necessities to the poor so that they can live & remain Hindu/muslim or whatever they are?

The problem lies with people who are tooth and nail against conversion to Christianity and blame that they are converting poor people by providing better facilities of life , but these objecting people do NOT bother to provide these facilities to own people so that they wont convert.

 

[footmarks]

If the Indian Hindu tribals believe in curing by this water then whats wrong in it? after all they also believed in everything on earth as a god and had been worshiping many objects.

Isnt parshad is presented as something sacred ??
what you see illegal in it if they are accepting what is being promoted to them by their free will.

In India, we also get something akin to prashad in dargahs too. what's that called?

 

[Spring Onion]

haha so according to you fooling people is not illegal???
only fools can bring such law in foolishland..

and do you know anything about prasad??
prasad is something that we offer to god to show that we are thankful for everything he has given to us...then we distribute that prasad among people..

why dont tell us about parsad if there is anything more special about it other than normal eatables which common people give to temples and which btw most of the time is grabbed by the pundit .

so what is so miraculous about it?

now tell me how a parsad is different than the medicine water which you guys claimed is presented by Christian missionaries as miraculous ?

 

[ashokdeiva]

One thing is for sure, Mugals converted Hindus forcibly during their rule over India, and now Christians convert with bread and butter.
Hindus are more tolarent than these religion, we gave our men and women for these religions to grow in our soil and yet they are not satisfied.
People understand that Hinduism is not a religion, its a way of life and never in the history of man kind you can show an example where we impose our will over others by using force or by using the oppertunity that the christians find in the poorer section of the society.

 

[Spring Onion]

In India, we also get something akin to prashad in dargahs too. what's that called?

by yardstick of our belief whatever is distributed to visitors at dargahs is lanagr (mere FOOD) and it has nothing to do with any sacredness and NO One is bound to eat it as divine. if you are hungry then do eat it otherwise NO obligation to eat it khamakhwa lolzzz

 

[kingkobra]

The problem lies with people who are tooth and nail against conversion to Christianity and blame that they are converting poor people by providing better facilities of life , but these objecting people do NOT bother to provide these facilities to own people so that they wont convert.

I dont know why people cant differentiate between converting by will for better life and being fooled in the name of better life..
Hindus have now awaken and taking step towards it but christain missionaries are not happy with it..

Mass conversion to Hinduism in Surat censured

 

[Madamaapkocapsicumpasandh]

One thing is for sure, Mugals converted Hindus forcibly during their rule over India, and now Christians convert with bread and butter.
Hindus are more tolarent than these religion, we gave our men and women for these religions to grow in our soil and yet they are not satisfied.
People understand that Hinduism is not a religion, its a way of life and never in the history of man kind you can show an example where we impose our will over others by using force or by using the oppertunity that the christians find in the poorer section of the society.

there is nothing like conversion in Hinduism, No wonder Hinduism is considered as a peaceful and flexible religion .

 

[Spring Onion]

One thing is for sure, Mugals converted Hindus forcibly during their rule over India, and now Christians convert with bread and butter.
Hindus are more tolarent than these religion, we gave our men and women for these religions to grow in our soil and yet they are not satisfied.
People understand that Hinduism is not a religion, its a way of life and never in the history of man kind you can show an example where we impose our will over others by using force or by using the oppertunity that the christians find in the poorer section of the society.

1. so if Christians are making lives of poor better than whats wrong in it.

2. if Hinduism is not a religion then why you have banned conversions and taking legal steps against free conversion by poor Hindus?

3. If you have poor sections in your society, who's fault it is?

 

[Dash]

If the Indian Hindu tribals believe in curing by this water then whats wrong in it? after all they also believed in everything on earth as a god and had been worshiping many objects.

Isnt parshad is presented as something sacred ??

what you see illegal in it if they are accepting what is being promoted to them by their free will.

Think about this -

Showing them better life or saying things will change is an act of bribing. Religion doesnt change lives!!!. Its tricking.

In case you want to convert then you need to do them your religion has to be an example of such that people should will to jooin you themselve. Something that happened to all our religions centuries ago.

 

[Garry]

If poor people get money, medicine or anything else that increase their chances of living, and in turn change their religion, whats wrong in that? Those opposing these conversions, why dont they provide the necessities to the poor so that they can live & remain Hindu/muslim or whatever they are?

in history millions of Hindus and Sikhs have been prosecuted by mughals just for sake of conversion to islam...i think that is one of reasons people in general are opposed to this idea....india has already seen centuries of these religious bigots...the whole idea is corrupt....why dont those missionaries provide the people with food medicines just for the sake of humanity....instead of asking them to change religion...

 

[footmarks]

by yardstick of our belief whatever is distributed to visitors at dargahs is lanagr (mere FOOD) and it has nothing to do with any sacredness and NO One is bound to eat it as divine. if you are hungry then do eat it otherwise NO obligation to eat it khamakhwa lolzzz

sugar balls, commonly used as Prashad are given in dargahs too, atleast in 3 dargahs I have visited. one cant eat it to fill their stomach. I guess its just a way to distribute the blessings of Allah to others who are not able to come to visit dargah personally. Same purpose as that of Prashad.

 

[Dash]

1. so if Christians are making lives of poor better than whats wrong in it.

2. if Hinduism is not a religion then why you have banned conversions and taking legal steps against free conversion by poor Hindus?

3. If you have poor sections in your society, who's fault it is?

From facts - None of the peoples' lived changed in those draught stricken areas where they accepted Christianism. They are still committing suicide.
The fact is you used their situation to get them under your umbrella. Its a wrong thing.

 

[kingkobra]

why dont tell us about parsad if there is anything more special about it other than normal eatables which common people give to temples and which btw most of the time is grabbed by the pundit .

so what is so miraculous about it?

now tell me how a parsad is different than the medicine water which you guys claimed is presented by Christian missionaries as miraculous ?

nobody claims that by eating prasad one will be cured of disease..i dont know from where you learned that...
again i will tell you what prasad is...we offer food to god to show that we are thankful for everything he gives to us...and this food offered to god is then distributed among people as prasad..


but "mixing pills in water and giving to poor tribal people as holy water when they are ill" is different and act of fooling..
i think you did not understand what i said...holy water is not given to everyone..it is given to those who are having fever or some illness...and everyone apart from tribal people knows what is mixed in this so called holy water..