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Although this news is a good indicative of the spur in spending power of the middle class, it also points to another upcoming problem of Traffic and reliance on oil.

While China has been able to keep up or ahead in certain areas in terms of road infrastructure, India is lagging way behind. More sales => more cars on the road => more dynamics based on international oil prices on our economy.

On top of that add the countless hours of productivity lost just because everyone is out on the struggling roads in their own cars.

my 2 cents.
 
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some other thoughts from my high-on-weed mind, production is economically far more beneficial rather than imports (which are also going up)
So I have a hard time getting excited about sales growth. Domestic production is where the party is at
 
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celebrating petty accomplishments to soothe ourselves against china?

dont konw why some members claimed to be indian are most obsessed with india?? :wonder: :what:

its our culture that we even celebrate the small achivements... we find happiness even in small things
 
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Hey Ram! :tsk::tsk:

Dude! this is not about production. This is about sales.

Sales means customers are spending.

Customers spendiing means more liquidity in the economy.

which means banks are lending more.

which shows lender's confidence.

I could go on but hey with you on weed, what's the use? :cheesy:

Does not matter,American economy with those 2 % growth is still adding more money to its economy than India growing at 8 %.

Their is a simple rule about growth rate,how much bigger is ur economical base,the lower will be ur growth due to the magnanimosity of the base.

Oman growing at 16 % does not means it is growing faster than India or had more liquidity than India,this is basically applied in every field

China's growth is also slowing down,they call it economical cooling,but this is a basic trend happening with every economy,ur growth decline after pasiing a certain figure,auto industry is also no exception.
 
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I'm interested where the 25% growth figure for China came from. The sources I found point to a slightly different picture

China's passenger vehicle sales hit 13.76 mln units in 2010

Shanghai January 11 (Gasgoo.com) Sales of China's passenger vehicles including cars, multi-purpose vehicles (MPVs), sport utility vehicles (SUVs) and minivans rose 33.2% from a year earlier to 13.76 million units in 2010, bitauto.com reported today, citing data released by China Passenger Car Association.
 
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33% growth in passenger cars while 25% growth in the overall automobile production, passenger cars and business vehicles, such as tracks.
 
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And this seems petty to you?


A market growing at over 29% seems petty to you?

Do you have even an iota of an idea as to what this signifies in terms of customer purchasing power?

You should give up that weed, you know, matey!

It's petty since you are measuring your penis with Chinese penis. If China decides to "measure", you will be humiliated thoroughly. What is this Chinese obsession? Some articles in west pump you to believe that India is going to a super power and it's going to counter China? Have you EVER seen Chinese measuring themselves to India?

This is your headline :India ahead of China in auto sales growth


Yeh it's petty and pathetic.
 
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Beijing is a polluted city. Beijing's air was a hot-button issue for the media during the 2008 Olympics. Despite ongoing efforts to clean the air since 1999, things remain pretty bad. In the run up to the Olympics, some 200 factories were shut down or moved out of the city, tens of thousands of coal boilers were replaced with natural gas, Beijing inaugurated the world's largest fleet of natural-gas buses and taxis, and gradually ratcheted-up automobile emission standards until they were among the toughest in the world.

Nonetheless, Beijing remains one of the most polluted cities in the world. To be fair, any city with the population the size of Australia and some 5 million automobiles is bound to be encapsulated in smog.

Beijing's leaders soon realized that the problem was not so much in the industrial sector as it was in the rapid growth in automobiles. Between 1997 and 2011, the number of cars in Beijing quintupled. It didn't matter how many factories were closed or how tight emission standards became, the growth of cars outpaced pollution mitigation efforts.

After the Olympics, Beijing got tough. They began a program that basically made it illegal for car owners to drive one day per week based on the last number of their license plate. If caught driving on a day their car is not allowed on the road, they could be ticketed. They hoped this program would reduce congestion and pollution, but results have been mixed.

Instead, in mid-2009 Beijing began encouraging buyers to purchase plug-in hybrids and electric cars with subsidies of $7,500 and $8,800 respectively. However, those subsidies were initially limited to fleet buyers, (meaning government agencies and companies like taxi services that could be many vehicles in one order.) Thus, the adoption of electric vehicles has been extremely slow.

Now, things are beginning to change. Beijing has begun offering those same subsidies to private vehicle buyers as well. They have also promised to double the subsidies, to some $17,000 to defer the cost of electric vehicles until their price falls.

In 2011 Beijing adopted the most draconian measures yet to reduce congestion and pollution: car rationing. Some 800,000 vehicles were purchased in 2010 alone, but Beijing would only allow a maximum of 240,000 new vehicles in 2011. The rationing is done by lottery, every month 20,000 people are chosen who are eligible for a license plate. This means if one wants to buy a car, they must wait until they win the lottery. They cannot simply buy a car...say..tomorrow.

Here is where it gets interesting. Besides generous subsidies, Beijing is exempting EVs from various taxes (car taxes in China are extremely high), and excepting them from the one-day-per-week driving curfew. But here is the kicker...they will be exempt from the license plate rationing system. That means, if you want to buy a car in Beijing, you have two choices: You can buy an electric tomorrow and get the accompanying benefits OR you can wait until you win the lottery.

In effect, Beijing is making the electric car more attractive than their gasoline counterparts. Clearly they hope that the quieter electric vehicles will replace gasoline ones and make the city less noisy, while cleaning the air, helping Beijing meet China's strict energy efficiency requirements, and making the city less dependent on unstable oil markets.

This doesn't mean that Beijing will become an electric city overnight. There are few electric cars available right now, and production capacity remains low; most electric car makers cannot keep up with demand. But over time, competition and improved technology promises to bring the cost down for everyone.

This piece of news has largely been ignored in the Western media. This is surprising considering all the interest in electric cars right now. China seems poised to beat the US past the 1 million electric vehicle goal set by Obama for 2015. The United States must get its act together or it will be buried in the clean-energy race.
 
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Hey Ram! :tsk::tsk:

Dude! this is not about production. This is about sales.

Sales means customers are spending.

Customers spendiing means more liquidity in the economy.

which means banks are lending more.

which shows lender's confidence.

I could go on but hey with you on weed, what's the use? :cheesy:

You also have to look at the base of both countries. China is the largest auto market in the world even above US. India is nowhere near.
 
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And this seems petty to you?


A market growing at over 29% seems petty to you?

Do you have even an iota of an idea as to what this signifies in terms of customer purchasing power?

You should give up that weed, you know, matey!

China is the largest automotive market in world today, beating US, with over 17million sales, which is more than 4 times that of India.
Even a small growth over a smaller base will look big in percentage terms.
 
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Well, it is a good growth. However, I think both China and India need focus on electronic cars or any other type of environmental friendly cars in their pipelines.

BTW, many members have pointed out: you need build more roads to accommodate those new cars into the market every year. How about parking lot, gas station, charge station and etc?

In addition, how about the related financial industry? Will credit be abused to cause another bubble in the financial industry?

There are tons of problems associated with such growth. The worst of all, how about pollution?
 
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Well, it is a good growth. However, I think both China and India need focus on electronic cars or any other type of environmental friendly cars in their pipelines.

I agree on your observation that we should focus more on cars running on renewable energy and move away from fossil fuels, as both the economies grow we will continue to see phenomenal growth with the auto majors pushing their products on economies like us.

But rather than trying to follow them, we should embark upon environment friendly cars... or better focus on public transportation. We cannot afford a conventional car culture if we are starting now especially when global oil production is almost reaching its historic peak (or may be we are already on the slide down in terms of supply). Electric, hybrid or alternative fuel cars should be heavily subsidized by the respective governments to encourage people who are starting right now to adopt such technologies.
 
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