'India: a spiritually diverse yet integrated nation' Ambassador Roemer

[EjazR]

btw salman,

let me add that my post on your viewpoint is not my personal opinon. But almostall traditional Islamic scholars, from different parts of the world and different schools of thought hold the same view. This includes the much maligned salafi ulema from your country of residence SA. They also disagree with the Maududi world view and consider it deviant.

So what muslims from "the other side of the border" are saying is a consensus view also held by many ulema.

 

[Zeluvaa]

Gentlemen,
As I have said, you are free to draw your own conclusions. it is upto you.
You asked what I base my belief on, and i told you.

and as I have previously mentioned, that I as a person do not approve of people who call them selves muslims on that side of the border.
Both of you have reciprocated the feeling with regard to my belief.

If you want further explanation and definition, we can do that. If not
So let us both wait for the day to come.

1) You are yet to show me proof about the shirk thing

2) Why is it that you "do not approve of people who call them selves muslims on that side of the border". Would you care to provide "further explanation and definition"

3) I have few things for you

"If a man calls his Muslim brother kafir, it applies to one of the two." (Bukhari)

"Whenever a man accuses another of being a kafir or wrong-doer, this accusation will rebound on him if the one accused is not in reality a kafir or wrong-doer." (Bukhari)

"The man who calls another kafir or enemy of God, and the latter was not such, this charge will indeed turn back upon the accused." (Muslim)

"He who curses a believer, it is as if he has killed him. And he who accuses a believer of kufr, it is as if he has killed him." (Bukhari)

It is reported on the authority of Ibn `Umar that the Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him) said: Any person who calls his brother: O Unbeliever! (then the truth of this label) would return to one of them. If it is true, (then it is) as he asserted, (but if it is not true), then it returns to him (and thus the person who made the accusation is an Unbeliever). [Muslim]

Be careful of what you say, it might turn back on you as said by the Prophet (SAWS). But you are so sure in labeling 170 million people as kafir when even the prophet (SAWS) himself did not, says much about you and the Islam that you follow.

 

[Trisonics]

Temple for 6 days, it is a mosque on Friday
Jagadish Angadi Bangalore, Oct 4, DHNS

Temple for 6 days, it is a mosque on Friday

As the country continues to debate the trifurcation of the Ayodhya land among the parties to the dispute, a temple-mosque at Girimath at Kamathagi village in Bagalkot district may have a suggestion to offer.

The five-century old mosque functions as a temple for six days in a week, transforming itself into a mosque on the seventh day. Barring Fridays when Muslims pray in it, Hindus have a free run of the mosque as a temple.

Constructed by Ibrahim Adil Shah II, the Bahmani Sultan known for his efforts to foster communal harmony among people of all religion, the structure resembling a mosque hosts idols of Hindu Gods like Shiva, Nandi and Ganesha as well as paintings of Marula Shankara Devaru, Ibrahim Adil Shah and his wife.

“Ibrahim Adil Shah II, who ruled between 1556 and 1627, formed certain rules for worship over here. It is being followed as tradition. No single objections has been raised since then. History is a witness to this communal harmony,” said Hucheshwar Swami, Pontiff of Hucheshwar Mutt, Kamathagi-Kotekal. The mutt manages Girimath.

The temple conducts a car festival the day after Ganesha Chaturthi.. The temple authorities either advance or postpone the car festival if it is Friday. Thousands of Muslims participate in the car festival and donate money.

History of temple

According to the locals, Adil Shah II was travelling when he sent his guards to find a place where he could pray. The guards found the ideal place, but found Maralu Shankara Devaru, a follower of Allama Prabhu meditating at the spot.

Unable to wake up Devaru who was in deep meditation, the guards decided to evict him physically, but the Sultan arrived in time and prevented them from doing so.

Adil Shah waited for Devaru to finish with his meditation and had a long conversation with him. So impressed was the king with Devaru’s scholarship and ideas on brotherhood, that he ordered the construction of a temple.

A signed transfer deed on a copper plate was handed over to the saint with the rider that “No festivals should be held at the mosque on Fridays and it be should be left free for Muslims to offer prayers on Fridays.”

The record even now is safe with the Desai family at Kotekal.

About Ibrahim Adil Shah II

Ibrahim Adil Shah, the fifth king of the Adil Shahi dynasty, is known in history as "Jagadguru Badshah." He tried to bring in cultural harmony between the Hindus and Muslims through music. He was a great lover of music, played musical instruments, sang and composed praises of Hindu deities Saraswati and Ganapati.

He wrote a book Kitab-E-Navras (Book of Nine Rasas) in Dakhani. It is a collection of 59 poems and 17 couplets. According to his court-poet Zuhuri, he wrote it to introduce the theory of nine Rasas, which occupies most important place in Indian aesthetics, to acquaint people who were only brought up in Persian ethos. The book opens with prayer to Saraswati, the Goddess of learning. He claimed that his father was divine Ganapati and mother the Holy Saraswati.

 

[Sinnerman108]

^^^

I would like to know what Ejaz and other Indian Muslims think of this

 

[notsuperstitious]

According to my belief system, I consider people who pass judgement on others beliefs bigoted half humans desperate for attention.

No offense, just my belief

 

[Trisonics]

Qatar-based Hindu builds mosque in Kerala

New Delhi: A Qatar-based Hindu businessman is constructing a mosque in Kerala with the aim of promoting communal harmony. He claims it will be the first mosque to be built in the state by a Hindu in over 1,200 years.

"Construction is going on. The mosque will be ready in two-three months. Over 400 people can offer prayers in that mosque at a time," Cheril Krishna Menon, a prominent NRI businessman in the Gulf, told IANS in an interview here.

The mosque is coming up in Kozhikode.

Menon said so far the Cheraman Mosque, constructed in the late eighth century by Chera ruler Rama Varma Kulashekhara, is the first and only mosque built by any Hindu in Kerala so far.

Menon, who is chairman and managing director of the Doha-headquartered Behzad Group of Companies, said he had taken approval from Muslim scholars and religious leaders for building the mosque.

"I have already taken letters from Muslim religious leaders and scholars. They are okay with it. God is one and people should respect and work for the promotion of other religions also," said Menon, who was awarded the Pravasi Bharatiya Samman in 2006 and Padma Shri in 2009 for social service. He was in India to attend the Pravasi Bharatiya Divas last weekend.

Menon said he would continue to work for the promotion of all major religions.

Besides building the mosque, he is involved in the establishment of a study centre in Thiruvananthapuram to spread awareness of the Bhagavad Gita.

He also plans to build a church in Kerala. "Once the mosque is ready, I will start work on the church. We have already identified the land but final decision is not taken yet," he added.

Menon, whose company operates in 13 countries, mainly in the Middle East, emphasised the need to promote the culture of philanthropy in India.

"Some people are already doing that, but a lot more needs to be done. Businesses are making money because of the common people. Every businessperson must give back to society a certain proportion of their earnings," said Menon, adding he spends nearly three percent of his earnings on philanthropic activities.

On his business expansion plans, Menon said his company will invest Rs.100 crore on aluminium and steel fabrication plants in Tamil Nadu.

"In the first phase, we are investing Rs.25 crore. Over the next four years, our plan is to invest Rs.100 crore in India," he said.

The Behzad Group is mainly focussed on fuel transportation by land and sea. The company recently ventured into steel manufacturing business.

Qatar-based Hindu builds mosque in Kerala - India News - IBNLive

 

[airuah]

the people of pakistan will not and cannot accept a secular India-coz it would only make a mockery of Pakistan's creation.so i'd prefer us Indians not to prove our secularism to Pakistan because we dont have to and even if we do they cannot accept it