Inconsistency in design of AMCA’s Internal Weapons Bay

[Echo_419]

PJ ... infact WJ ( W = Worst , J = Joke )



Jiska Pehle Se Ukhda Hua Hai... ( Jhaantaa ... I mean the Flag ) uska Kya Ukhadega Koi ?

Noticed how he used Ukhar instead of Ukhad

 

[Nilgiri]

I see you folks are still engaging with the false flagger troll.

Cmon guys you should know better.

 

[MilSpec]

That is all your IQ can allow you to post. Do us a favor dude, don't post lies if you are ignorant about a subject. You embarrass my country with your conduct.

that is quite amusing. If you want to discuss the topic at hand you are free to. If you are interested in commenting about internal weapons bay and the authors concern please do.

As far as my background on the subject is concerned, let others be the judge of that. You can trollbait as you want, but I have been here for a long time and trolls like you are dime a dozen. So try harder next time.

 

[illuminatidinesh]

butt-hurt sanghi troll, I am talking about milspec and his absolute lack of knowledge on military affairs.

Ha ha ha Ya ok I will do what Mil spec did to u...

 

[Indian Patriot]

that is quite amusing. If you want to discuss the topic at hand you are free to. If you are interested in commenting about internal weapons bay and the authors concern please do.

That's what I am doing and I don't need your permission. The day in life you manage to make your own forum then perhaps I will ask for your permission. That is if I find your forum worthy enough to participate.

As far as my background on the subject is concerned, let others be the judge of that.

Your knowledge on the subject is non-existent. All you do is spice up your comments which the gullible fools accept as truth. The only thing I have seen you do successfully and constantly is spin-doctoring and trying to make any Indian system look world class when reality is different.

World class weapon systems have foreign buyers. India has NONE.

So try harder next time.

I don't need to try so hard to make you hand out negative ratings when you get exposed and humiliated by me.

Ha ha ha Ya ok I will do what Mil spec did to u...

Beat around the bush like a coward?

 

[MilSpec]

That's what I am doing and I don't need your permission. The day in life you manage to make your own forum then perhaps I will ask for your permission. That is if I find your forum worthy enough to participate.



Your knowledge on the subject is non-existent. All you do is spice up your comments which the gullible fools accept as truth. The only thing I have seen you do successfully and constantly is spin-doctoring and trying to make any Indian system look world class when reality is different.

World class weapon systems have foreign buyers. India has NONE.



I don't need to try so hard to make you hand out negative ratings when you get exposed and humiliated by me.



Beat around the bush like a coward?

I am not sure what exactly is your problem,
What do you want me to comment on, that the size of weapons bay has not been frozen, the size of the airframe is not public knowledge, neither is the type of face sheet or core material or the resin type that will be used, the internal configuration of weapons bay is unknown, based on some Surface models with unknown scaling, if you want to jump on the bandwagon for the effectiveness of the stealth characteristics of a weapons bay of AMCA, then be my guest. Any design feasibility analysis untill it goes through it's gate reviews and reaches DFMEA is quite useless for us to even look at to evaluate.
My stand is as clear as before, the author is just overzealous over some differences he observes in two models without adequate information on either.

My knowledge part, sure I don't know anything about military systems. Happy?

India's weapon export regime is not the topic, feel free to open a thread, and discuss.

Humiliation part: rest assured the likes of you can't cause any humiliation to me or anyone else on the forum. But you are more than welcome to try.

regards.

 

[Nilgiri]

I am not sure what exactly is your problem,
What do you want me to comment on, that the size of weapons bay has not been frozen, the size of the airframe is not public knowledge, neither is the type of face sheet or core material or the resin type that will be used, the internal configuration of weapons bay is unknown, based on some Surface models with unknown scaling, if you want to jump on the bandwagon for the effectiveness of the stealth characteristics of a weapons bay of AMCA, then be my guest.
My stand is as clear as before, the author is just overzealous over some differences he observes in two models without adequate information on either.

My knowledge part, sure I don't know anything about military systems. Happy?

India's weapon export regime is not the topic, feel free to open a thread, and discuss.

Humiliation part: rest assured the likes of you can't cause any humiliation to me or anyone else on the forum. But you are more than welcome to try.

regards.

Saab, you are one of the few I really respect here...you do not need to waste your time with this guy too much. He is not worth it.

 

[Indian Patriot]

I am not sure what exactly is your problem,

Your hypocrisy is the problem.

What do you want me to comment on, that the size of weapons bay has not been frozen, the size of the airframe is not public knowledge, neither is the type of face sheet or core material or the resin type that will be used, the internal configuration of weapons bay is unknown, based on some Surface models with unknown scaling,

Something more simple - India has no clue how to build a 5th gen fighter.

My stand is as clear as before, the author is just overzealous over some differences he observes in two models without adequate information on either

And you have information on everything?

My knowledge part, sure I don't know anything about military systems. Happy?

Shows in your comments.

You wrote a lot of gabage abut size of weapons bay and such random nonsense. But this has no relation to the topic at all, it just sounds "cool" to some gullible idiots who look up to you.

1. Weapons bay in a stelath aircraft is the most important thing because 5th gen aircraft carries weapons internally.

2. If details about the aircraft is not public knowledge how do you know hat thing works?

3. A country which cannot even make a 3rd gen aircraft like LCA, how is it going to make a 5th gen fighter?

India's weapon export regime is not the topic, feel free to open a thread, and discuss.

It is related. A weapons exporting country is a successful manufacturer of weapons. India does not even figure in the list.

Humiliation part: rest assured the likes of you can't cause any humiliation to me or anyone else on the forum. But you are more than welcome to try.

I caused you a lot of humiliation when you had to hand negative ratings after being exposed.

Saab, you are one of the few I really respect here...you do not need to waste your time with this guy too much. He is not worth it.

another of bhakts.

 

[zebra7]

I am not sure what exactly is your problem,
What do you want me to comment on, that the size of weapons bay has not been frozen, the size of the airframe is not public knowledge, neither is the type of face sheet or core material or the resin type that will be used, the internal configuration of weapons bay is unknown, based on some Surface models with unknown scaling, if you want to jump on the bandwagon for the effectiveness of the stealth characteristics of a weapons bay of AMCA, then be my guest. Any design feasibility analysis untill it goes through it's gate reviews and reaches DFMEA is quite useless for us to even look at to evaluate.
My stand is as clear as before, the author is just overzealous over some differences he observes in two models without adequate information on either.

My knowledge part, sure I don't know anything about military systems. Happy?

India's weapon export regime is not the topic, feel free to open a thread, and discuss.

Humiliation part: rest assured the likes of you can't cause any humiliation to me or anyone else on the forum. But you are more than welcome to try.

regards.

Dear Sir, this is about technology, have you heard of tools available with the forum website called as the IP tracer, and with the PDF, there is a plugins to locate the false flagger. Now before wasting your time, if available pls do use them, or pls ask some Mod, I had asked several time, but may be a PDF thintank voice might have more weight.

If you keep on replying, you are actually helping him, and providing fuel on his troll mission. Kindly stop responding, and let him blabble whatever he want alone.

@waz Dear waz could you pls check this @Indian Patriot. He is annoying @MilSpec for couple of days, and could you pls check his true identity.

 

[topgun047]

IMO this false flagger nerd @Indian Patriot barely gets any attention irl so he seeks it here,

Let the barking dog tire himself out.

 

[MilSpec]

Your hypocrisy is the problem.

sure, that is the problem

Something more simple - India has no clue how to build a 5th gen fighter.

True, that is why we haven't built one, but as one of the largest air forces in the world, India has a pretty good Idiea of air combat, and advantages of stealth in the threat scnario. Given that "India" doesn't know how to build a 5th gen aircraft, I am sure it knows the basics of building a program to develop the technologies it feels it needs to incorporate in it's aircraft program. Failure or sucess is something that comes after the attempt.

And you have information on everything?

I don't and thus I said the information provided was inadequate

Shows in your comments.

You wrote a lot of gabage abut size of weapons bay and such random nonsense. But this has no relation to the topic at all, it just sounds "cool" to some gullible idiots who look up to you
1. Weapons bay in a stelath aircraft is the most important thing because 5th gen aircraft carries weapons internally.
.

Let's just linger on this part for a while, you are saying without knowing the dimensional characteristics from an isometric view of what looks like a surface model of an air frame iteration of an unknown scale - one can determine the radar reflection characteristics of the weapons bay with reference to the airframe. In addition without any information of material uses for from airframe skin and wing skin, you will be able to determine absorption and reflection coefficient of test sample with all four track and plot algorithms.

My contention is very simple, there is nothing to compare the previous iteration and this one, and nothing suggests that this wont change as DFMEA completes.

2. If details about the aircraft is not public knowledge how do you know hat thing works?

what thing?

3. A country which cannot even make a 3rd gen aircraft like LCA, how is it going to make a 5th gen fighter?

that is your opinion, and you are welcome to have so. but that is not the topic at hand.

It is related. A weapons exporting country is a successful manufacturer of weapons. India does not even figure in the list.

That is true.

I caused you a lot of humiliation when you had to hand negative ratings after being exposed.

Negative ratings are for violating forum regulations, if you feel the ratings are unfair - you are free to contest them in threads dedicated for the purpose, if you feel other members are posts are in regulation please use the report button located at right corner of the post column. Rest assured your posts do not cause any humiliation to any one on this forum.


regards

Dear Sir, this is about technology, have you heard of tools available with the forum website called as the IP tracer, and with the PDF, there is a plugins to locate the false flagger. Now before wasting your time, if available pls do use them, or pls ask some Mod, I had asked several time, but may be a PDF thintank voice might have more weight.

If you keep on replying, you are actually helping him, and providing fuel on his troll mission. Kindly stop responding, and let him blabble whatever he want alone.

@waz Dear waz could you pls check this @Indian Patriot. He is annoying @MilSpec for couple of days, and could you pls check his true identity.

it's ok.
Dude,
I am OK with answering any queries the gentleman has in my capacity. As a matter of fact I have fun with people who try and troll bait. Try it it's fun.

 

[Nilgiri]

I am OK with answering any queries the gentleman has in my capacity. As a matter of fact I have fun with people who try and troll bait. Try it it's fun.

It is good material for neutral readers too....as long as you enjoy it. But I have seen some others that really get riled up by this fellow....so I am glad you are taking him to task in the right way.

 

[Chika_Pika]

Another potential failure in the making. DRDO/HAL/PSU must acknowledge hey have no idea how to build a 5th gen aircraft. Not a single engineering college/university in India is renowned for aeronautical engineering. India will have to seek foreign assistance and go for joint venture as a junior partner.

Thanks for your valuable openion

 

[Indian Patriot]

Dear Sir, this is about technology, have you heard of tools available with the forum website called as the IP tracer, and with the PDF, there is a plugins to locate the false flagger. Now before wasting your time, if available pls do use them, or pls ask some Mod, I had asked several time, but may be a PDF thintank voice might have more weight.

This a defence FORUM. In forum people have discussions and debates.

If you keep on replying, you are actually helping him, and providing fuel on his troll mission. Kindly stop responding, and let him blabble whatever he want alone.

LOL!!

@waz Dear waz could you pls check this @Indian Patriot. He is annoying @MilSpec for couple of days, and could you pls check his true identity.

LOL!!

IMO this false flagger nerd @Indian Patriot barely gets any attention irl so he seeks it here,

Let the barking dog tire himself out.

Your language shows who is raised by dogs.

sure, that is the problem

Glad we agree.

True, that is why we haven't built one, but as one of the largest air forces in the world, India has a pretty good Idiea of air combat, and advantages of stealth in the threat scnario.

Largest airforce in the world by quantity and low on quality. Mig-21s are a joke in 21st century air combat. And how exactly does India have a good idea of stealth in threat scenario when India has no stealth technology till date? Not even at the experimental stage.

Given that "India" doesn't know how to build a 5th gen aircraft, I am sure it knows the basics of building a program to develop the technologies it feels it needs to incorporate in it's aircraft program. Failure or sucess is something that comes after the attempt.

India does not know how to build a modern aircraft. Even a basic flight trainer needs to be imported. LCA is a joke and will go down as a failure.

Let's just linger on this part for a while, you are saying without knowing the dimensional characteristics from an isometric view of what looks like a surface model of an air frame iteration of an unknown scale - one can determine the radar reflection characteristics of the weapons bay with reference to the airframe. In addition without any information of material uses for from airframe skin and wing skin, you will be able to determine absorption and reflection coefficient of test sample with all four track and plot algorithms.

I was talking about this. You post a lot of unnecessary comments which to a gullible poster would sound very "technical". Cutting through the gibberish let's say scientists at DRDO and HAL are more ignorant than me if they cannot come with a working aircraft model.

What material is used has little bearing on the design of the door bay. Are the edges of the bomb door bay angular or not, does opening the bomb doors compromise the stealth features of the aircraft, do the dimensions of the bomb doors allow for heavier weapons load? Questions like this are more important.

My contention is very simple, there is nothing to compare the previous iteration and this one, and nothing suggests that this wont change as DFMEA completes.

What magical wand will HAL get?

what thing?

That thing called AMCA.

that is your opinion, and you are welcome to have so. but that is not the topic at hand.

It is related. We are talking aircraft here and a country with no knowledge on aircraft manufacturing will have serious handicaps.

Negative ratings are for violating forum regulations, if you feel the ratings are unfair - you are free to contest them in threads dedicated for the purpose

I would have certainly done so if I was aware of the rules. I was not and I did not contest them. You once handed out negative ratings to an American guy, he complained against you and you had to take down the negative ratings after your duplicity was exposed. Let's not go down that road, we all know the truth.

Rest assured your posts do not cause any humiliation to any one on this forum.

Of course they do to you. Remember how you whined and cried about giving respect to DRDO losers?

It is good material for neutral readers too....as long as you enjoy it. But I have seen some others that really get riled up by this fellow....so I am glad you are taking him to task in the right way.

 

[zebra7]

it's ok.
Dude,
I am OK with answering any queries the gentleman has in my capacity. As a matter of fact I have fun with people who try and troll bait. Try it it's fun.

It is good material for neutral readers too....as long as you enjoy it. But I have seen some others that really get riled up by this fellow....so I am glad you are taking him to task in the right way.

Actually many of us don't reply to this guy, but I appreciate your thought and if you wish pls do keep on answering this guy, but in my view you will be exhausted but not him.