IN YOUR FACE SHANGHIS,BHAKTS !In Kerala, a Beef-Eating Fest to Protest Against Beef Ban

[MokshaVimukthi]

Secularism has nothing to do with hurting sentiments. Why should the Government decide what i should eat or not eat? Why should Hindus decide what Muslims or Christians can or cannot eat or vice versa? Dont like something..dont eat it.

Muslims do not usually and historically consume pork because back then there was no science and people had documented pigs of being Coprophagic and the pig was considered a dirty animal. You can have as many festivals as you want.

Hindus too sacrifice animals for rituals. Why does that not hurt any sentiments?
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You sick pervert , That is Nepal, This is INDIA.

 

[Marxist]

DyFI Conducted Beef fest and Muslim league workers ate beef .....That event was a complete failure

 

[Aamna Ali]

Is this propaganda article supposed to teach Hinduism to Hindus ? ............ muslims teaching Hinduism to Hindus ....... now this really takes the cake. Secularism at its finest.

Neither of the two great Hindu epics, the Ramayana and the Mahabharata teach vegetarianism and both often refer to eating meat as if it were normal and uncontroversial, as indeed it was.The Aryans of ancient India were not altogether vegetarians. Their diet was a mixed one; they ate fish as was offered to Bharata and his party by Guha. Meat too was consumed quite widely.
Not only did Rama say that animals are killed by men for their flesh but he also killed many animals – deer, wild boar, antelope, etc., – for food during his sojourn in the forest. Meat was eaten with relish and a verse which describes a meal of Rama and Sita states, ‘He sat on a rock tempting Sita with meat (saying) this is pure, this is tasty and this is well cooked by fire.’
In Bharadvaja’s hermitage Bharata’s army was supplied with venison, mutton, pork and flesh of the peacock and the snipe Likewise, Kumbhakarna consumed large quantities of venison, beef and pork and drank blood. Although the Vanaras are generally depicted as vegetarians, the Brahmans were actually not.
The concept that ‘a purely vegetarian diet is an indication of spiritual progress and an advanced culture’ is a later development in India. Even ascetic Brahmans were not strict vegetarians. Although their usual fare consisted of vegetables, they did not abstain from meat-eating as a principle of either religious or social significance. In fact, Agastya is represented as eating rams and he says, ‘I am able to eat comfortably even one whole ram at a Sraddha ceremony.’ There seems to have been no ban on meat-eating by Brahmans even at the time of Bhavabhuti for his Uttararamacarita depicts Vasistha as eating a tawny calf Further, Some statements specifically mentions the animals whose flesh could be eaten by Brahmans. (The Society of the Ramayana, 1960, p.147-8).
In the chapter on food the Sushruta Samhita (1st– 4th cent CE) recommends all kinds of fish, bird and animal flesh showing that meat eating was commonplace during that period. This and a great deal of other evidence shows that like Buddhists, Hindus were for centuries in two minds about vegetarianism. It was only after the 9th, 10th and 11th centuries that vegetarianism started to become widespread in India.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

DyFI Conducted Beef fest and Muslim league workers ate beef .....That event was a complete failure

That would be the communist for those do not know.

Why did you say it was a failure ?

Neither of the two great Hindu epics, the Ramayana and the Mahabharata teach vegetarianism and both often refer to eating meat as if it were normal and uncontroversial, as indeed it was.The Aryans of ancient India were not altogether vegetarians. Their diet was a mixed one; they ate fish as was offered to Bharata and his party by Guha. Meat too was consumed quite widely.
Not only did Rama say that animals are killed by men for their flesh but he also killed many animals – deer, wild boar, antelope, etc., – for food during his sojourn in the forest. Meat was eaten with relish and a verse which describes a meal of Rama and Sita states, ‘He sat on a rock tempting Sita with meat (saying) this is pure, this is tasty and this is well cooked by fire.’
In Bharadvaja’s hermitage Bharata’s army was supplied with venison, mutton, pork and flesh of the peacock and the snipe Likewise, Kumbhakarna consumed large quantities of venison, beef and pork and drank blood. Although the Vanaras are generally depicted as vegetarians, the Brahmans were actually not.
The concept that ‘a purely vegetarian diet is an indication of spiritual progress and an advanced culture’ is a later development in India. Even ascetic Brahmans were not strict vegetarians. Although their usual fare consisted of vegetables, they did not abstain from meat-eating as a principle of either religious or social significance. In fact, Agastya is represented as eating rams and he says, ‘I am able to eat comfortably even one whole ram at a Sraddha ceremony.’ There seems to have been no ban on meat-eating by Brahmans even at the time of Bhavabhuti for his Uttararamacarita depicts Vasistha as eating a tawny calf Further, Some statements specifically mentions the animals whose flesh could be eaten by Brahmans. (The Society of the Ramayana, 1960, p.147-8).
In the chapter on food the Sushruta Samhita (1st– 4th cent CE) recommends all kinds of fish, bird and animal flesh showing that meat eating was commonplace during that period. This and a great deal of other evidence shows that like Buddhists, Hindus were for centuries in two minds about vegetarianism. It was only after the 9th, 10th and 11th centuries that vegetarianism started to become widespread in India.

Do you understand the DIFFERENCE between BEEF and CHICKEN or GOAT you moron.

Gau Hatya is a terrible sin for a Hindu. Eating it is Worse.

 

[Aamna Ali]

You sick pervert , That is Nepal, This is INDIA.

So? Nepal is a Hindu country following ancient Hindu practices

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

So? Nepal is a Hindu country following ancient Hindu practices

Let me repeat, That is NEPAL, this is INDIA. Let a nepali defend his countrys culture. That is not my job.

 

[Aamna Ali]

That would be the communist for those do not know.

Why did you say it was a failure ?



Do you understand the DIFFERENCE between BEEF and CHICKEN or GOAT you moron.

Gau Hatya is a terrible sin for a Hindu. Eating it is Worse.

No it is not.. Hindus have been consuming beef for millenia.
Please tell me why a cow is any more sacred or useful than a goat which provides milk too? or a chicken which gives us nourishing eggs?

Let me repeat, That is NEPAL, this is INDIA. Let a nepali defend his countrys culture. That is not my job.

Fact is India never had a unified culture either. There is huge diversity in its set of beliefs and practices. Even in Hinduism there is huge differences of practices,beliefs, cultures and cuisine.
So no one should ban something just because it hurts the sentiments of a few.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

No it is not.. Hindus have been consuming beef for millenia.
Please tell me why a cow is any more sacred or useful than a goat which provides milk too? or a chicken which gives us nourishing eggs?

Do not teach Hinduism to me Mulla. ............ milch goat are not to be killed either.

Fact is India never had a unified culture either. There is huge diversity in its set of beliefs and practices. Even in Hinduism there is huge differences of practices,beliefs, cultures and cuisine.
So no one should ban something just because it hurts the sentiments of a few.

Indian HINDUS had a common civilization-al and Dharmic culture. You are outside that so you do not know nor understand.

Spare me your ignorant blabber.

 

[OrionHunter]

What's with the title, friend? Trying to inflame passions? Try as you may, you will get no brownie points for this.

 

[Marxist]

That would be the communist for those do not know.

Why did you say it was a failure ?



Do you understand the DIFFERENCE between BEEF and CHICKEN or GOAT you moron.

Gau Hatya is a terrible sin for a Hindu. Eating it is Worse.

There was a Muslim league event in near by Hall ,When beef was prepared many of them came to Dyfi stall to eat it ,Participation of common people was less ( .Mathrubhumi: ReadMore -'DYFI conducts Beef Fest to protest against beef ban' )...Such events by Dyfi is good for BJP's growth in the state

 

[wise_owl]

There was a Muslim league event in near by Hall ,When beef was prepared many of them came to Dyfi stall to eat it ,Participation of common people was less ( .Mathrubhumi: ReadMore -'DYFI conducts Beef Fest to protest against beef ban' )...Such events by Dyfi is good for BJP's growth in the state

There you have it... it is all for politics

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

There was a Muslim league event in near by Hall ,When beef was prepared many of them came to Dyfi stall to eat it ,Participation of common people was less ( .Mathrubhumi: ReadMore -'DYFI conducts Beef Fest to protest against beef ban' )...Such events by Dyfi is good for BJP's growth in the state

I heard the communists ere serving Non halal beef to the muslims

 

[Aamna Ali]

Do not teach Hinduism to me Mulla. ............ milch goat are not to be killed either.

Indian HINDUS had a common civilization-al and Dharmic culture. You are outside that so you do not know nor understand.

Spare me your ignorant blabber.

There is OVERWHELMING archaeological evidence of beef eating in Indus Valley Civilisation and the Vedic era. This continued till at least around the 5th century AD.


I'm sorry to disappoint the "Hindu" fanatics who claim that Muslims introduced beef eating into India. Even a CASUAL study of archaeological data over the course of two days has confirmed overwhelming evidence that beef was REGULARLY eaten in India well before Islam was even created. I can now PERSONALLY CHALLENGE anyone in India or the world to prove that the cow was always sacred in India.


Beef was eaten in the Pune area at least till 1400 BC
EXCAVATIONS AT INAMGAON, DISTRICT PUNE reveals
The early settlers cultivated barley (Hordeum vulgare), millets, ragi, lentil and peas. The people also subsisted on hunting and fishing. Among the animal bones recovered, a good number are those of deer as well as domesticated sheep/goat, cattle, buffalo, etc. They were slaughtered sometimes for food.

Beef was commonly eaten in Rishikesh-Haridwar till 5th century AD
EXCAVATION AT VIRABHADRA TEMPLE-SITE, RISHIKESH, DISTRICT DEHRA DUN.
Evidence regarding dietary habits of the people, as revealed by bones recovered from the excavation, deserves special mention. Nearly eighty per cent of the animal bones come from VBA-I while the remaining from VBA-II. It was seen that while only cattle bones have been recovered from the latter, the former yielded bones of both cattle and goat. The collection consists of fragments of long bone, ribs and vertebrals and some molars. It was observed that animal bones were confined to the early phase, the later phases being free from such remains. This change could be linked with the establishment of Structures 1 and 2 which may thus represent remains of temples. Probably the present emphasis on vegetarianism in Rishikesh-Hardwar could be traced back to circa sixth century A.D.


Conclusive evidence of beef eating in the proximity of Ayodhya during the late Vedic period


EXCAVATION AT SISWANIA, DISTRICT BASTI
More than four thousand animal remains from the site were studied by U.C. Chattopadhyaya of the University of Allahabad. The animal taxa identified include Zebu, i.e., humped Indian cattle (Bos indicus), buffalo (Bubalus bubalis), horse (Equus caballus), sheep/goat (Ovis/Capra), spotted deer (Axis axis), antelope (Antelope sp), wild boar (Sus scrofa), domestic pig (Sus scrofa cristatus), pigmy hog (Sus silvanius), dog (Canis familiaris), cat (Felis sp.), hare (Lepus sp.), common rat (Rattus rattus), bandicoot rat (Bandicota bengalensis), tortoise (at least two species-Chitra indicus and Trionyx gangeticus) and fish of large, medium and small size, and Aves including fowl (Gallus galliformes).

The overall picture from the lowest to the uppermost levels at the site suggests a predominantly domesticated economy in which cattle bones have the largest representations. Other domesticated animals include sheep/goat, pig, dog and cat. A large specimen (a molar) of horse from layer 7 of Trench ZA3 (Quadrant 3) suggests that domesticated horse was introduced in this area. At the same time aquatic animals, like tortoise and fish, constituted an important source of human diet. The remains of bandicoot rat and common rat suggest well settled life, associated with storing grains. A few wild animals were also hunted including wild boar, pigmy hog, deer and antelope.
The fact that most of these species (excluding perhaps dog and cat) constituted items of human diet as is shown by the characteristic cut and chopping marks observed in the bones.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

How does finding of cattle bone show they were being eaten ? Do finding of human bone mean we were eating Humans too ?

Secular Retards. LOL.

 

[Aamna Ali]

Other evidence

1) 51. EXCAVATION AT LAL QILA, DISTRICT BULANDSHAHR.— [Indian Archaeology 1969-70 A Review]

Thermoluminiscence dating of a few potsherds of the Ochre Colour Ware from the site, conducted by the Archaeological Research Laboratory at Oxford, indicate a mean date of 1880 B.C. Besides other finds, animal bones were found in large numbers. The cut-marks, present on many of them, suggest that meat including beef was the staple diet. Evidence of some grains
(cereal), suggesting agriculture as a subsidiary occupation, was also available.

2) 62. EXPLORATION IN DISTRICT UDAIPUR. VEDIC PERIOD [Indian Archaeology 1961-62 A Review]

While the occurrence of animal bones attested to a meat diet, querns, pounders and rubbers indicated a grinding-activity suggestive of the use of grains, though no grains were obtained.

3) 81. EXCAVATION AT NARHAN, DISTRICT GORAKHPUR.— [Indian Archaeology 1985-85 A Review]

Deep pits cut into the natural soil containing pottery fragments, animal bones, antlers and loose ashy earth were encountered. Some of the bones and antlers bearing cut mark and occasionally charred, indicated that meat was an important component of their diet. Remains of charred grains were collected by flotation technique.

4) 9. EXCAVATION AT RAMAPURAM, DISTRICT KURNOOL. [Indian Archaeology 1980-81 A Review]

[note this is from possibly a pre-Vedic period]: People domesticated animals like Bos indicus (cow), Bubalus bubalis (buffalo), Capra aegagrus (goat), Oris aries (sheep), Sus scrofa cristatus (pig), etc. It is interesting to know that there is some indication for killing cattle at a very advanced age. If the cattle was kept only for food purposes, the inhabitants would have killed these animals at an early age, possibly around the age of three when the meat is tender and in plenty. It is possible, therefore, that the inhabitants kept these as domesticated animals, some of them being used for agricultural purposes. As there is a scarcity of vertabrae, ribs and lower parts of the limb-bones in the collection, it seems that majority of these animals were slaughtered outside the habitation and later the flesh-bearing parts brought in. The inhabitants supplemented their food economy by occasionally hunting wild animals like Cervus Unicolor (sambar), Gazella Gazella (chinkara) and birds. It is also certain that they exploited aquatic resources like mollusc and fish. The presence of a few pieces of marine shells indicate that the people might have contacts with outsiders living nearer the sea.

5) 1. Excavation at Gandlur, District Guntur.— [Indian Archaeology 1983-84 A Review]

[Note: This is neolithic, i.e. pre-Vedic] From inside the pits of the dwelling complex, objects of household use were recovered. These included a fragmentary quern, several mullers, pounders, belt hammers, a few stone axes, microliths, dabbars, clay and steatite beads and one terracotta lamp, which interestingly has a tubular provision for inserting wick. Clods of burnt earth were a recurrent phenomenon in the pits; a complete hearth except for one near the rim of the quardrupartite pit was not noticed elsewhere. Pottery and animal bones have been found both inside and outside the dwelling pits. Occasionally full pots in fragments were also present in the pits. The pottery was handmade with coarse fabric. Most of the animal bones appear to be of cattle. There were many cut and charred bones of cattle, probably suggesting consumption of beef. Food grains were also recovered from the dwelling pits which throw some valuable light on the agricultural practices and dietary habits of the people.

6) 65. Excavation at Ganeshwar, District Sikar [Indian Archaeology 1983-84 A Review]

[Note: this is probably from the Indus/pre-Vedic/copper age] A preliminary study of the available bones revealed three groups of animals (1) animals which were in the process of domestication like cattle, sheep and goat, swine, dog, ***, camel and fowl, (2) animals that lived in the houses or in the vicinity of township like hog, shrew, rat, etc. and (3) wild animals including those hunted for food like Nilgai, antelope, deer, hyena, wild bore, wolf, comb duck, hare, rabbit and fresh water fish. In case of the bones of cow, fish, fowl, sheep, goat and wild animals, a number of them bore cut marks, besides being occasionally charred, pointing to their use as food. Evidence for extraction of bone marrow from various bones was also observed.

7) 90. Excavation at Damdama (Warikalan), District Pratapgarh.[Indian Archaeology 1983-84 A Review]

[Note: this is pre-Vedid] The excavations at the site brought to light a large number of animal bones belonging to cattle, sheep/goat, ***, deer, stag, tortoise, fish, birds, in charred, semi-charred or unchar-red condition. The availability of these bones at the site in such a large number furnished evidence not only about the hunting economy of the people but also about the range of animals roaming in the area at that time. Besides, the assemblage also gave some indication about the prevailing climatic conditions during the Mesolithic times in this part of the Ganga Valley.

8) 28. EXCAVATION AT PRABHAS PATAN, DISTRICT JUNAGADH.— [Indian Archaeology 1976-77 A Review]

Interesting feature of the collection is that the bones of horse (Equus caballus) and fish were found only in the early historical period. Bones of cow (Bos indicus), sheep (ovis orientalis vignei), goat (capra hircus aegagrus) and pig {Sus scrofa cristatus) are found right from chalcolithic to early historical periods, in almost all levels. Bones of camel (camelus dromedarius) occur in the chalcolithic and early historical periods. Most of the bones collected belong to the domesticated animals, except two wild examples of Sambar (Cervus unicolor) and Chital (Axis axis). A few bones of turtles (possibly Trionyx) and rodents have also been collected.

9) 49. EXCAVATION AT DAIMABAD, DISTRICT AHMEDNAGAR.— [Indian Archaeology 1975-76 A Review]

[Note this is chalolithis, i.e. Vedic/pre-Vedic] A preliminary study of the plant remains found elsewhere in this Phase by Shri Kajale of the Deccan College Post-graduate and Research Institute, Pune, revealed that wheat, barley, rice, ragi, safflower, jowar, gram, peas and lentil were cultivated. The large number of animal bones indicate that meat formed an important part of the diet of the chalcolithic people. The animal skeletal remains belonged to sheep, goat, cattle, horse, buffalo, dog, tortoise and fish.

DENTAL RECORD

It is not just the prevalance of animal bones that matter in providing insights into meat eating in ancient India. The dental record also matters. It can corroborate the findings of animal bones, since the teech of meat eaters change (and become different) to the teeth of those who eat less meat. An incidental feature of this information is that in the past Indians very often did not cremate, but buried their dead. Most human skeletons recovered in ancient India are from burial sites. The following article corroborates the wide prevalence of meat eating in north India in the mesolithic period (around

Mesolithic Subsistence in North India: Inferences from Dental Attributes, by John R. Lukacs and J. N. PalSource: Current Anthropology, Vol. 34, No. 5 (Dec., 1993), pp. 745-765.

Research on the vertebrate faunas from MDH and DDM is still in progress, but preliminary identifications suggest a wide diversity of mammals, birds, reptiles, gastropods, and fish. The presence of bison, elephant, and hippopotamus in these contexts lends support to the idea of a moister climate than today’s. Many of the animal bones are charred, most are recovered from hearths, and many yield evidence of cut marks. Taken together, these observations point to the importance of meat in the diet. This interpretation is counterbalanced, however, by the fact that querns and grinding stones are among the most frequently found stone objects at MDH and DDM, attesting to the dietary significance of gathered wild grains and roots.

Caries prevalence is dramatically greater at Harappa. The key differences are attributable to the tendency for the Gangetic Plains samples to show severe dental wear, dental abscessing and antemortem tooth loss attributable to wear rather than caries, a greater prevalence of calculus (reflecting higher meat consumption), and a greater prevalence of alveolar resorption resulting from heavy masticatory stress in combination with calculus deposition.