In Kerala, parents struggle to shake children from the influence of ultra-conservative Islam

[SrNair]

Buddy that was sarcasm.


Did you tag me and delete your post later?

Do you really think that I CAN make Kerala the Kashmir of south India?
If so I should also be able to make you vaporise in air.

I know @Levina madam .

Like bjp and rss dont kill people for having different political views

Mahatma ghandi died of heart attack


Don't bring Christianity or Hinduism to the conversation
I love my country more than my religion so I dont like any terrorism against my county be it hindu muslim or Christian terrorists

I see both rss and iss as same so I don't want to exchange muslim radicals in kerala for hindu radicals at least muslim people will be watched closely by national agencies because of our bjp govt
If hindu activists were allowed in kerala the same govt will close its eyes on the atrocities they do

I don't want that

Iam living in my home at kerala with my muslim ,Christians and hindu friends peacefully right now
Its enough for me

Actually what do you know about RSS?
Except some wrong propoganda spreaded out by the so called secularists (the same morons that filled their mouth with water when they heard these record contribution of an Indian state to IS).
Do you know the circumstances that caused or compelled Dr Hedgewar to establish this volunteery organisation?
It was an incident happened in the same place ,in Kerala,that seeded the creation of this pan Indian organisation.
1921 Malabar rebellion.
The criminal inaction of the Congress leaders and Gandhi that forced the Hedgewar to opt the plan B.

You can say and do whatever you want .Their real commitment to nation was revelead after the independence .First it was during the partition.The tribes began to overran the Kashmir area .Pandits ,Sikhs and other minorities either raped or killed.Then IA was not there since the Kashmir kingdom didnt sign the instrument of accession .
RSS helped them as much as possible.
Helped them to found a way out from there .
When they faced that dont have any choice they supplied poison kit to women and girls to avoid the molestation by the pathan tribes .
RSS sevaks fought them and got killed .Those who are in same helpless situation also consumed the poison kit.
Later they fought shoulder to shoulder with IA .During the subsequent wars they gave logistical support to Armed forces.
They trained for self defense only with lathis ,they didnt used AK 47 against innocent people ,they didnt used car bombs to kill an innocent crowd,they didnt behead poor people,They didnt touched a women during their 90 years of service .
THEN ON WHAT BASIS YOU COMPARED RSS WITH ISS?
Even Nehru asked their help for law and order when India faced a war in 1962 .
If you dont know anything about them ,you should ask some others .Donot generalise entire organisation due to some bad apples.
Will you blame entire armed forces because of the reckless action of some retards among them?

People like you wont learn a lesson.
This is about religion whether you likes or not.
They forced us to change in that way.
Christians should have forsee this after they chop down a Professor's hand for a simple mistake.
Your churches and their management took same attitude like yours and now they lost 1000's of girls .

I am not saying that we should blame the entire Muslim followers .But some of them
already knew the windfall of this dumb Dr Abdul Rasheed but none of them seriously involved security agencies .
Sorry we need BJP and RSS here ,we cant allow another Tipu or 1921.

 

[Local_Legend]

It will be an interesting read , how Vivkanda memorial rock built at Kanyakumari .

 

[Tshering22]

Persia ,I dont think so .
They are in regular fight with Arabs .

Here this was bound to happen.But now it seems its gone too far .
Now Muslims women are also working for this .They targets non Muslim unmarried girls that dont have any strong male support in family.Then convert them either through bloackmail or threatning .
It seems strong in Northern Kerala .

This is the reality. The Muslim league usually stay with congress and grab most of the seats in north Kerala under Muslim league flag, use the usual vote bank politics , effortlessly win the election, bargain minister posts.
On the other hand , communists widely known as LDF in Kerala, try their best to make Muslim people believe that they are with them.
It's around early 2010 when there was a conflict between Israel and palesten, things gets nast.
LDF organised a silent protest against Israel by lightning candles and mourn for a minute for the pain of Palestinian Muslims in every junction they have a unit ( that's a lot ! )

Ironically, same newspapers reported behealding Indian army soldiers by pak army...!

No response for that. I mean I'm not refreshing your memory against indo China war and communist stand . If any of you came across that , it's just frictional and does not resembles with any living or dead or even the future generation .

The problem is why are your people voting for them?

Keralites are well-educated and well accomplished people with a good sense of right and wrong.

Why are they so enamoured by this?

 

[SrNair]

The problem is why are your people voting for them?

Keralites are well-educated and well accomplished people with a good sense of right and wrong.

Why are they so enamoured by this?

Because of both of them are good in development ,health and education .
In our state it would always a 5 years left and 5 years right .
But both of them are always successful in meeting people's demand .So keralites didnt forced to look another option .
Long reign of left vanished the caste system prevailed in society .
Congress downfall began to show after they teamed up with IUML and petty coalition.
But CPM is always successful in changing their strategy .But conversions programs was also successful in both regimes ..
And it is only now the right wing began to rise .I hope they will keep that momentum in future .

 

[Local_Legend]

The problem is why are your people voting for them?

Keralites are well-educated and well accomplished people with a good sense of right and wrong.

Why are they so enamoured by this?

Even before the Gujrat riot , 9 pm news hour debates , Kerala experienced it all .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marad_massacre

The above link is about an incident occurred in early 2000s. The real story behind it is worse and I'm not going in to detail.
As like every Muslim community , it's easy to make a Muslim mad and violant just with some quotes of holy book and comparisons with some current situations or happenings .


Kerala is famous for Communisam. 75% of communists are Hindus. There arch Enimy is BJP which is pro Hindu ( There are some exceptions Eg: http://www.keralabjp.org/orga/state-office-bearers)

Above all , Hindus used to utter the word secularism all the time in public . They have given the right to other religions to do whatever they want but will not vary from secularistic view point . When two Hindus talk , they curse govt to take all the temple money but not taking a penny from church or enquiring about the money flowing from outside.

For Eg, a communist Hindu never or rarely go to temple . But a communist Christian or Muslim never detached from the religion . BTW , communism don't believe in religion.

That was communists with majority of Hindus . Next comes congress where they have splitter it in to groups which starts from A to Z Kerala congress, Congress I , Congress Antoney, Mani, George, Jacob
This is pro Christian. Usually fields a place in district ( read Kottayam District ) used to be in touch with Christian missionaries and their plans of developing schools and engineering colleges .

Then there is Muslim League who used to be the partner in crime for congress in Kerala . They are strong at North Kerala and with the support of UDF ( United Democratic Front , mix of Congress and supporting parties ) easily win seats and bargain Misister seats . U might be aware that , Malappuram District in Kerala was built on the scale of Muslim Polulation . Thanks to Mr EMS.

At the end , comes BJP which is gaining support just because the above stated Hindus who used to speak about secularism getting troubles even inside their homes . On the other hand , BJP don't have a good line of leaders to face elections. Add chilly powder on that , there is a group war going inside the party.


AAP came as a storm in this situation and many neutral people supported it . But it was having no structure . Later the wannabe politetions who were rejected from other parties taken over and it became a mess.

So, you say , main parties like congress and communists can't avoid vote bank politics and can't group with , how an alternative govt is possible which we believe that will take actions without seeing faces ?

End of the day , the so called educated Malayalee shows his true colour either by part or by religion .

My post is lengthy and I'm from mobile. Pardon my spelling mistakes . I just said this as from my experience . I'm not targeting any party or religion .

 

[Levina]

I know @Levina madam

I have no idea which way kerala is headed.
This trend needs to be curbed>>>

https://twitter.com/x/status/755961351432830977

 

[Local_Legend]

Adding a news about a Kerala Parent . RIP Vishal .

Organs of Dubai boy killed in Kerala accident donated to four patients

Dubai: The organs of a 15-year-old boy, who was a Dubai resident and a former student here, were donated to four people after he died in an accident in India.

Vishal Satheesh was declared brain-dead two days after he was knocked down by a speeding car in Kerala’s capital city, Thiruvananthapuram, on Saturday.

Vishal, who studied in Our Own English School in Dubai till grade 3, was walking back home from a class, when the accident took place.

His father, T. Satheesh Nair, an employee of Emirates airline for over 30 years, was in Kerala for a short break to attend a wedding when his younger son met with the accident.

The 10th grade student had gone to attend a special class on Saturday and was walking back when a speeding car, in an attempt to avoid hitting an auto rickshaw bearing down on it, swerved and knocked down the boy, Nair told Gulf News over the phone on Wednesday.

Though he underwent a surgery, Vishal did not recover and was declared brain-dead on Monday evening.

The grieving father said he did not think twice when someone from the hospital inquired if he would agree to donate his son’s organs.

“When I heard I would not get my son back, I instantly agreed,” said the father, who has been receiving huge appreciation for his gesture from the government and people back home after Vishal’s heart, liver and kidneys were donated to four patients in different parts of Kerala on Tuesday.

His wife was in agreement with his decision.

Vishal’s elder brother, Essesse, a BBA student in American College of Dubai, flew down to Kerala after the accident.

Both the sons and the mother had relocated to their hometown after Essesse went to grade 10. Though the latter returned to Dubai for higher education, Vishal and his mother stayed back in India.

“They still have Dubai residence visas,” the father said.

Vishal, said the father, was a quiet and obedient boy. “He was a bright student … very active in the extra-curricular field. He was an NCC (National Cadets Corps) cadet and an athlete who won many prizes.”

Kerala’s health minister, K.K. Shylaja, visited the parents to console them and express her appreciation of their noble gesture. Friends, relatives and others have also saluted the parents for inspiring others to donate organs.

Living on

Vishal now lives on in four adults.

His heart is beating inside Sandhya, 27, a lab technician who was suffering from a rare heart disease.

The teenager’s harvested heart was transplanted after being transported from Thiruvananthapuram to Kochi by a Naval Air Ambulance on Tuesday.

The air ambulance was arranged after the intervention of Kerala’s Chief Minister Pinarayi Vijayan to ensure that it reaches the recipient in time, said Aneesh P.V., an organ transplant coordinator with Kerala Network of Organ Sharing (Mrithasanjeevani) which facilitates the organ transplantations in the state.

Vishal’s heart was transplanted into Sandhya, the mother of a nine-month-old baby, after a five-hour-long surgery at Lisie Hospital in Kochi.

Aneesh told Gulf News it was he who had requested Vishal’s father donate the organs after the hospital declared the child brain-dead.

Vishal’s kidneys were donated to two patients, Fakhrudheen Panavoor, 39, and Rajendran Vithura, 56 — who were admitted to Thiruvananthapuram Government Medical College where Vishal died.

Another woman, Priya, 30, received his liver at KIMS Hospital in Thiruvananthapuram.

Aneesh said they were all registered patients who required immediate transplant.


http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/societ...a-accident-donated-to-four-patients-1.1866092
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/kerala-heart-transplant-kochi-air-ambulance/

 

[DesiGuy1403]

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india...onverted-to-islam-under-pressure_1909772.html

And the hits keep coming for Hindu families of kerala.
Not only do they have to deal with nuts, they also have to deal with nuts preying on their daughters..

What a pathetic way to live.

 

[TejasMk3]

THEN ON WHAT BASIS YOU COMPARED RSS WITH ISS?

This type of rss=isis type false equivalence/monkey balancing is half the problem in India. Constant distortion and denial prevents clearly defining an enemy in the mind of the public, and ends up diluting the threat while needlessly demonizes the other.

So if you actually extend that logic, if you want ban IS or watch them, you also need to ban rss, otherwise it is partiality... which is just incredible....

 

[SrNair]

I have no idea which way kerala is headed.
This trend needs to be curbed>>>

https://twitter.com/x/status/755961351432830977

This is just a tip of an iceberg Madam .
Our people was so lazy ,they didnt cares about the things happened around them .
And both left and right and their irresponsible govt machinery was playing some petty politics.
Our mighty 'stupid' state intelligence come to know this only after when those families complained to them.

Now there is another shocker also .A lots of Islamist are already infiltrated in Govt machinery,thanks to the UDF coalition IUML extreme wing .It was them that cover all this anti national activities of this people ,now that is exposed because of two reasons ,current CPM govt dont gives a damn about coalition and this IS case . .NIA also included that in their investigation .
CPM and Congress was so eloquent about beef,fascism ,secularism,liberalism etc .
Now what ?


Face the reality,it gone too far .
The leader of this disappearance Dr Abdul Rasheed ,was born and brought up in an Islamist family .
A few months ago he was kicked from several mosques because he tried to spread IS idealogy .They kicked him out ,Good but never cares about the usual legal route .Because he was one of them .

And now they are a votebank .
I wont say our state is the Kashmir in south .That is too stupid

But so much for Gods Own Country ,Am I right ? @Levina

 

[Local_Legend]

Gods own country but Devils own people ( just a few lakhs only and they don't believe in family planning )

 

[itachii]

good that these things are coming to light a bit early than I expected them. Hopefully Hindus of kerala will open their eyes, exert their power and take back there state before it goes to dogs. Hopefully, they reverse the trend of demographic change too. God forbid if that doesn't happen and if kerala shifts even slightly the kashmir way, IA will work the kashmir way in kerala. country is going to be intact no matter what happens. people that speak of fencing kerala or bengal, should leave their cowardice and come to reality, so that we don't repeat the same mistake as we did in 1947.

 

[TejasMk3]

Hope tamilnadu can protect herself as the center will do jack shit to theses salafi preachers from destroying our childrens lives

These guys are actually Wahabbi, Salafi are Al Quaeda, LeT.

We have some issues here too, might not be as wide spread due to muslim population being comparitively lower than other states.
In TN the ISIS problem no one is talking about

The ISIS threat has been looming large in Tamil Nadu. There are pockets where the problem persists. There are some groups that are actively involved in radicalising the youth and in the Haja case it was found that the operation was carried out by the Tauheed Jamaat.

The Tauheed Jamaat mentioned there is a radical muslim group, far more venomous than zakir naik (the same group also posted a video asking people to not celebrate pongal).I think these idiots even refused to say vanakkam stating it to be rooted in hindu ideas. They even hold regular "Shirk olippu maandu"(Islamists looking to destroy TN Dargahs, hold "Shirk Annihilation" conference)

The same group also held a rally in Chennai yesterday ( Pak's "black day") condemning the army
The language used is also sick, very pak like in nature - "the army is piling up bodies and the central govt is watching" making it look like the whole thing was some poor innocent people being forcully killed, and some even had "free kashmir" placards.

The founder of this group is another radical crackpot is another Jainul Abideen who is banned in Sri Lanka (
Opposition to TN Muslim preacher visit to Sri Lanka). You can frequently see followers of this group posting and asking for complete destruction of non muslims., shias and Ahmadis, death to homosexuals etc.

Jainul Abideen himself used to be a part of the MNMK which was founded by the remnants of Al-Umma, the group behind the 1998 bomb blast (he claims he left after they started violence). The party is currently headed by a guy called Jwaharillulah, and they were part of Jaya's alliance, the last time he won an MLA seat from Ramanathapuram, though this time to the admk candidate. When he was in power, you'd see stuff like this happen:
Fatwas ban outsiders entry into Rameshwaram village
These guys were also a instrumental in drumming up the whole Vishwaroopam controversy, and the protest against the american consulate.

Overall a very problematic group, but nothing has been done against them, perhaps due to vote bank politics, - he was Jaya's ally last time, and Karuna's ally this time.
The good part is that currently it is limited to one family of groups, but it will spiral out of control with passing time, and infect more, and also start to receive outside support (like the recent infiltration from Bangladesh/Bengal agents inside recruiting.for ex.)

Either the govt acts disregarding the "Sekoolar media" and dhimmi liberals (and political parties)who will almost surely, strongly rally behind isis elements and recruiters, or we slowly slide towards an outright civil war in the future due to brainwashing of such crackpots.

 

[SmilingBuddha]

This is just a tip of an iceberg Madam .
Our people was so lazy ,they didnt cares about the things happened around them .
And both left and right and their irresponsible govt machinery was playing some petty politics.
Our mighty 'stupid' state intelligence come to know this only after when those families complained to them.

Now there is another shocker also .A lots of Islamist are already infiltrated in Govt machinery,thanks to the UDF coalition IUML extreme wing .It was them that cover all this anti national activities of this people ,now that is exposed because of two reasons ,current CPM govt dont gives a damn about coalition and this IS case . .NIA also included that in their investigation .
CPM and Congress was so eloquent about beef,fascism ,secularism,liberalism etc .
Now what ?


Face the reality,it gone too far .
The leader of this disappearance Dr Abdul Rasheed ,was born and brought up in an Islamist family .
A few months ago he was kicked from several mosques because he tried to spread IS idealogy .They kicked him out ,Good but never cares about the usual legal route .Because he was one of them .

And now they are a votebank .
I wont say our state is the Kashmir in south .That is too stupid

But so much for Gods Own Country ,Am I right ? @Levina

ok,I might have went too far with the BSF & fencing.... basically all the south states are in the same position as Kerala or might be even worse,Kerala at least acknowledges her problems.Please note the precarious position that our democracy has got us into.

• We can't police the salafi/wahabi preachers as that would be minority abuse.Freedom of worship.
• The social media which is an effective tool will still reach even the remotest isolated villages to push demented ideologies, that can't be stopped but controlled, again e-policing. Fvck u Zukerberg
• The political class is worried more about votes and less about how he gets them and a sizeable chunk coming from minority overwhelmingly can decide who wins or loses, so appeasement is the only way to win.Left-Right-Center all in the same boat. (might not be rightwingers so they never win) - Wonderful gifts of democracy.
• Non-uniform law structure based on religious beliefs is giving a free pass to many anti-social elements who are now beyond the reach of law.Uniform civil code not happening.
• Too many disenfranchised folks after returning from gulf states in south India are forgetting there secular routes.
• Havala funding from gulf states to setup religious institutions preaching wahabism or most times donations from hard earned money.
• political intervention is not going to happen with such issues as it will be suicide.

These are some basic issues, to ponder on.Only way out of this mess is Uniform civil code and then let the police deal with the rest of the issues. Modi can do this,hopefully.

 

[takeiteasy]

Muslims are seen as invasive people and this mindset is a problem. The typical Alappuzha/Haripad Travancorean Nairs with some Sakha exposure will consider them as "neecha Jaati" (Neech zaat) and that feudal mindset and lack of interaction with local Muslims along with regular RSS injections makes them biased against Muslims. Muslims can be good and integrated like in most parts of Kerala. Kerala society is not the typical north Indian society. People of all religions, caste, creed and class lives here peacefully. Islamic terrorism (Salaffists/Whahabbists) and Hindu terrorism (RSS/VHP & Chaddi parivar) are the two issues that needs to be addressed although majority of the people including Muslims are tolerant and secular. Irrespective of the religion, the temperament of the people are good. The classic riots and polarization method pioneered by Golwalkar slaves failed here. While, Islamic bigotry and terrorism are issues that are concentrated more in Malappuram and Kasaragode districts. The Emaan and Ibadat of the Muslims there have reached sky high, in fact it touched Moon. They go by what Saudi Arabian Islamic clergies tell and they are going radical which is true. The first casuality is women who now has to wear Shuttlecock burqah and cover hands and legs with leather glouse, because the husbands/fathers/brothers enforces this. According to them, the past generations lived in the land of infidels propagating Shirk and Bidda'th and now from Arabi, they've learned the best Koranic knowledge and are implementing it now. This phase will go down,once the love for Saudia and Arabs and the belief that Arabs and Arabic language are the perfect creation of Allah (As per Malappuram Muamin's) erodes away along with the Gulf money.