Imran Khan’s Over-Enthusiasm Killed Potential For Improvement In India-Pakistan Relations

[Shankranthi]

100%.

On Imran, he is a sophisticate Miandad.

Mark my words. I have a gut for these things.

Cheers, Doc

"miandad" as in the man who got his son married to Dawood Ibrahim's daughter ?

 

[padamchen]

"miandad" as in the man who got his son married to Dawood Ibrahim's daughter ?

Yes.

Same hardcore type of Muslim (Iranic blood with Indic heart) ....

Just fairer and better looking.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Shankranthi]

Yes.

Same hardcore type of Muslim (Iranic blood with Indic heart) ....

Just fairer and better looking.

Cheers, Doc

Oh yes, without a doubt.

If that was not the case, the PA would never have backed him.

PA backed him only after they found him to be sufficiently pliable and full of hate for an imaginary enemy from the west to the Hindus to the 'corrupt elite' minus the PA.

 

[I.R.A]

So, it is Pakistan that has to demonstrate change, not India.

Yeah sure.

Basically he wants IK to help them with their upcoming elections.

Seriously if this article is some think tank material of india ........ then may you have many more think tanks to mislead you.

IK did the right thing, straight forward approach, come lets talk ....... or else take your little nuni and keep spinning it in your big office. indians should change and get used to this. No nonsense and whining would be entertained.

 

[padamchen]

Yeah sure.

Basically he wants IK to help them with their upcoming elections.

Seriously if this article is some think tank material of india ........ then may you have many more think tanks to mislead you.

IK did the right thing, straight forward approach, come lets talk ....... or else take your little nuni and keep spinning it in your big office. indians should change and get used to this. No nonsense and whining would be entertained.

Careful.

He'll whip it out to prove you wrong.

With a million flashbulbs and terabytes of cyber shakha coverage.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Shankranthi]

Yeah sure.

Basically he wants IK to help them with their upcoming elections.

Seriously if this article is some think tank material of india ........ then may you have many more think tanks to mislead you.

IK did the right thing, straight forward approach, come lets talk ....... or else take your little nuni and keep spinning it in your big office. indians should change and get used to this. No nonsense and whining would be entertained.

Modi will will the elections with or without IK.

He is irrelevant as far as elections matter.


IK can continue to be the front for the PA and can continue to give invitations left right and center. Its not going to make the slightest difference unless he demonstrates he can deliver on what he can promise.

And he can only delivery what the PA tells him, he can deliver.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ne-another-for-instability-1351384-2018-09-28

External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj on Thursday said threats that endanger South Asia are on the rise. Addressing the foreign ministers' meet of SAARC countries (South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation) in New York, she said regional cooperation in South Asia is not possible without an environment of peace and security.

Making an indirect reference to Pakistan, Swaraj said, "Terrorism remains the single largest threat to peace and stability in our region. It is necessary that we eliminate the scourge of terrorism in all its forms, without any discrimination, and end the ecosystem of its support."

The SAARC foreign ministers' meet had gained significance last week when Pakistan's Prime Minister Imran Khan wrote to PM Narendra Modi and proposed that foreign ministers of the two countries should meet in New York.

While accepting the proposal, India had said the Swaraj will meet her Pakistani counterpart Shah Mehmood Qureshi during the meeting of SAARC foreign ministers. However, a day later, India decided to turn down Pakistan's proposal over the killing of a BSF jawan along the border by Pakistan, among other reasons.

On Thursday, the foreign ministers of the two countries avoided meeting each other. After making her statement in the SAARC meet, Sushma Swaraj left the venue and did not wait for Pakistan's Foreign Minister Qureshi to present his statement.

Addressing the SAARC meet, Swaraj also called members states to bring about trade reforms to strengthen connectivity and capitalise on the region's potential.

"The world is moving ahead to become more integrated and connected where movement of goods and people is becoming easier with each passing day. SAARC needs to deliver on its commitments or risk being left behind," she said.

In his speech, Qureshi blamed India for "blocking the progress of SAARC" and said India's stand on issues is "defying" the spirit of SAARC.

He said, "If we want to gain something from this forum [SAARC], we have to move forward. What's the way to do that? I have no hesitation to say that the attitude of one country is blocking the progress of SAARC, connectivity and prosperity of this region and defying the spirit of SAARC."

Speaking to mediapersons later he said he did not have any talks with Swaraj. "She left mid way. Maybe she wasn't feeling well. I listened to her statement. She talked of regional cooperation. How is regional cooperation possible, when everybody is ready to sit and talk and you are blocking that?" he said.

Meanwhile, anonymous MEA sources told news agency ANI that the allegations leveled by Pakistan regarding India not being serious about SAARC are baseless and away from reality. "The minister [Sushma Swaraj] in her speech had extensively dealt with various SAARC related projects and expressed India's commitment for making SAARC a success as regional grouping."

The sources also said that the foreign minister leaving a meeting after delivering her own speech is a standard practice in multilateral engagements and that Swaraj was not the first one to do so at the SAARC foreign ministers' informal meeting on Thursday.

 

[I.R.A]

Careful.

He'll whip it out to prove you wrong.

As if I haven't seen your nangay baydhangay sadhus.

Modi will will the elections with or without IK.

He is irrelevant as far as elections matter.

We will see ........ how much irrelevant Pakistan is to elections in india.

IK can continue to be the front for the PA and can continue to give invitations left right and center. Its not going to make the slightest difference unless he demonstrates he can deliver on what he can promise.

And he can only delivery what the PA tells him, he can deliver.

india and indians are stuck in their self created fears and hatred, gullible people who fail to understand how their own military is calling the shots in their own country.

They can anytime bring this excuse, unfortunately Jinnah didn't live long else indians would have said the same thing about him too.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Its funny to see Indians are putting blame on Imran Khan for the potential failure of talks rather than introspecting their own policy regarding Pakistan. They have been trying to demonize Imran Khan even before the elections and after his victory. Reasons are obvious, they don't want to see Pakistanis getting happier at all. For e.g their jealous towards CPEC from day first and Pakistanis coming together to elect Imran Khan as PM.

Also, IK always used to have x-factor in him which makes his opponents look small and insecure hence the only way to malign him is to get personnel towards him to fulfill their insecure desires inside. PMLN did it, Indian Govt is doing it as well. Indian Govt spokesperson statement about IK just depicted.Needless to talk about their media.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

The enemy was offered to talk it out, they disagree.
Let them be enemies and treat them like one.

They are a real threat to Pakistan, Muslims and to this whole region and will be taken care off.

 

[Shankranthi]

We will see ........ how much irrelevant Pakistan is to elections in india.

If pakistan kidnaps one of our BSF soldiers and decapitates him again during election time, then sure, someone will speak about it and remind people about terrorism from pakistan.

Beyond that, no one would give a flying fcuk.

india and indians are stuck in their self created fears and hatred, gullible people who fail to understand how their own military is calling the shots in their own country.

They can anytime bring this excuse, unfortunately Jinnah didn't live long else indians would have said the same thing about him too.

Considering that the military general in India cannot even call up the Prime Minister and talk to him, its laughable to claim that they call the shots in India.

The best the Military General can do is call up the Defence minister and talk to her. And if he wants to meet her, he would have to go to the Defence minister, the minister would not go to him.

Point being , even the defence minister is significantly above the Indian military General. The Prime Minister is way beyond his pay grade.



Are you aware that when pakistan first got independence, its ENTIRE BUDGET was used to maintain the pakistan Army ? ..... not 10 or 50% of the budget. 100% of the pakistan budget was taken up by the army.

That is your legacy and I bet you did not even know that.

The enemy was offered to talk it out, they disagree.
Let them be enemies and treat them like one.

They are a real threat to Pakistan, Muslims and to this whole region and will be taken care off.

For an offer to talk, the war has to END first.

Do you understand how that works ?

First is ceasefire.

Second is Talks.

 

[padamchen]

Its funny to see Indians are putting blame on Imran Khan for the potential failure of talks rather than introspecting their own policy regarding Pakistan. They have been trying to demonize Imran Khan even before the elections and after his victory. Reasons are obvious, they don't want to see Pakistanis getting happier at all. For e.g their jealous towards CPEC from day first and Pakistanis coming together to elect Imran Khan as PM.

Also, IK always used to have x-factor in him which makes his opponents look small and insecure hence the only way to malign him is to get personnel towards him to fulfill their insecure desires inside. PMLN did it, Indian Govt is doing it as well. Indian Govt spokesperson statement about IK just depicted.Needless to talk about their media.

Basic question.

Why would Indians see Imran in terms of what he means to or can do for Pakistanis, via a vis what he means to us and our interests?

How many Pakistanis have seen Modi like you want us to see Imran?

Cheers, Doc

 

[Shankranthi]

Its funny to see Indians are putting blame on Imran Khan for the potential failure of talks rather than introspecting their own policy regarding Pakistan. They have been trying to demonize Imran Khan even before the elections and after his victory. Reasons are obvious, they don't want to see Pakistanis getting happier at all. For e.g their jealous towards CPEC from day first and Pakistanis coming together to elect Imran Khan as PM.

Also, IK always used to have x-factor in him which makes his opponents look small and insecure hence the only way to malign him is to get personnel towards him to fulfill their insecure desires inside. PMLN did it, Indian Govt is doing it as well. Indian Govt spokesperson statement about IK just depicted.Needless to talk about their media.

Let me put this in simple english.


There was NO "failure of talks" since no body in India takes him seriously enough to have talks with him.

He first has to prove he is worthy of being taken seriously as a PM.



You are free to admire his x-factor, his y-factor and his z-factor, but the only thing that matter to India is his "C" factor and that stands for "Credibility".

 

[ranjeet]

Considering Imran Khan's government is increasing prices of gas/electricity and other esstential items it's was a good move to deny him any good news on diplomatic front with. This meeting would have distracted attention from the mess He is creating back at home.

 

[Shankranthi]

Considering Imran Khan's government is increasing prices of gas/electricity and other esstential items back at home it's was a good move to deny him any good news on diplomatic front with. This meeting would have distracted attention from the mess He is creating back at home.

I suspect that was one of the reason to reject the proposal.

India was not interested in giving him a free pass. Not even when they dangled "kartarpur".

 

[ranjeet]

I suspect that was one of the reason to reject the proposal.

India was not interested in giving him a free pass. Not even when they dangled "kartarpur".

they are preparing ground work for imf bailout and wants a major distraction.