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Imran Khan challenges Obama to give names of the people killed in Drone

what I shared was a research paper, not a collection from news items, which suggests "suspected militants" which in most cases are civilians...

let me tell you another thing, even if one civilian is killed due to inaccurate information, that is a Crime anyway...


There are ppl who still don't agree that OBL was behind 9/11. America believed them terrorists and USA killed them, If pakistani believe them innocent, bring the case to International court.

Imran Khan must ask Mush and Zardari the name of ppl killed in drone attack. why asking Obama????
 
Can you be more specific...

other than talking about my nationality and usual vibes like brainfarts and all do you have any answer for the question?.

Or if you dont have the answer you may please just stand on the side and wait for somebody to provide the answer..

Thank you.

I think people like you don't deserve to live on this planet. You're the worst kind of scum there is.
 
Yet another "lazy" statement from an "armchair" politician.

He is the biggest known politician who seldom speaks against Islamists and suiciders.

Heck Imran should be the one compiling lists of all those who have died in North Wazirastan to show that `100% were civilians and Americans have not killed any terrorist hiding in NW.

Here is the news about killing of 8 suspected terrorists via drone.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/441736/drone-strike-kills-3-people-in-n-waziristan/

No body has stopped Imran to send in a fact finding mission and prove that none of the terorists were hit.

But Imran would not do that. Instead he will continue asking $tupid questions from Obama.

Oh well. This is what he has to do to score political points.

What a sad state of Pakistani affairs.


peace

What a stupid guy you re. Imran is a 'lazy and armchair politician'?!!! He is making the most impact in Pakistan right now.

Will know how much you favor drones if your home was droned as 'suspected' terror hideout. Shame on you and your types.
 
What a stupid guy you re......

Personal attacks on a fellow poster is a sure sign of infentile mind.

Imran is not a paghambar. At least not yet. So do not jump up and down and launch personal attacks when someone says Imran is just a human and thus capable of making mistakes.

So stick to the topic please and avoid personal attacks on a PDF poster.


peace

What a stupid guy you re......

Personal attacks on a fellow poster is a sure sign of infantile mind.

Imran is not a paghambar. At least not yet. So do not jump up and down and launch personal attacks when someone says Imran is just a human and thus capable of making mistakes.

So stick to the topic please and avoid personal attacks on a PDF poster.


peace
 
For those Amreeka poojaris who call drone strikes effective, read on.

Outrage at CIA's deadly 'double tap' drone attacks - Americas - World - The Independent

Late in the evening on 6 June this year an unmanned drone was flying high above the Pakistani village of Datta Khel in north Waziristan.

The buzz emitted by America's fleet of Predators and Reapers are a familiar sound for the inhabitants of the dusty hamlet, which lies next to a riverbed close to Pakistan's border with Afghanistan and is a stronghold for the Taliban commander Hafiz Gul Bahadur.

As the drone circled it let off the first of its Hellfire missiles, slamming into a small house and reducing it to rubble. When residents rushed to the scene of the attack to see if they could help they were struck again.

According to reports at the time, three local rescuers were killed by a second missile whilst a further strike killed another three people five minutes later. In all, somewhere between 17 and 24 people are thought to have been killed in the attack.

The Datta Khel assault was just one of the more than 345 strikes that have hit Pakistan's tribal areas in the past eight years but it reveals an increasingly common tactic now being used in America's covert drone wars – the "double-tap" strike.

More and more, while the overall frequency of strikes has fallen since a Nato attack in 2011 killed 24 Pakistani soldiers and strained US-Pakistan relations, initial strikes are now followed up by further missiles in a tactic which lawyers and campaigners say is killing an even greater number of civilians. The tactic has cast such a shadow of fear over strike zones that rescuers often wait for hours before daring to visit the scene of an attack.

"These strikes are becoming much more common," Mirza Shahzad Akbar, a Pakistani lawyer who represents victims of drone strikes, told The Independent. "In the past it used to be a one-off, every now and then. Now almost every other attack is a double tap. There is no justification for it."

The expansive use of "double-tap" drone strikes is just one of a number of more recent phenomena in the covert war run by the US against violent Islamists that has been documented in a new report by legal experts at Stanford and New York University.

The product of nine months' research and more than 130 interviews, it is one of the most exhaustive attempts by academics to understand – and evaluate – Washington's drone wars. And their verdict is damning.

Throughout the 146-page report, which is released today, the authors condemn drone strikes for their ineffectiveness.

Despite assurances the attacks are "surgical", researchers found barely 2 per cent of their victims are known militants and that the idea that the strikes make the world a safer place for the US is "ambiguous at best."

Researchers added that traumatic effects of the strikes go far beyond fatalities, psychologically battering a population which lives under the daily threat of annihilation from the air, and ruining the local economy.

They conclude by calling on Washington completely to reassess its drone-strike programme or risk alienating the very people they hope to win over. They also observe that the strikes set worrying precedents for extra-judicial killings at a time when many nations are building up their unmanned weapon arsenals.

The Obama administration is unlikely to heed their demands given the zeal with which America has expanded its drone programme over the past two years. Reapers and Predators are now active over the skies of Somalia and Yemen as well as Pakistan and – less covertly – Afghanistan.

But campaigners like Mr Akbar hope the Stanford/New York University research may start to make an impact on the American public.

"It's an important piece of work," he said. "No one in the US wants to listen to a Pakistani lawyer saying these strikes are wrong. But they might listen to American academics."

Reprieve, the charity which is trying to challenge drone strikes in the British, Pakistani and American courts, said the report detailed how the fallout from the extra-judicial strikes must be measured in terms of more than deaths and injuries alone.

"An entire region is being terrorised by the constant threat of death from the skies," said Reprieve's director, Clive Stafford Smith.

"Their way of life is collapsing: kids are too terrified to go to school, adults are afraid to attend weddings, funerals, business meeting or anything that involves gathering in groups."

Some of the most harrowing personal testimonies involve those who have witnessed "double-tap" strikes.

Researchers said people in Waziristan – the tribal area where most of the strikes take place – are "acutely aware of reports of the practice of follow-up strikes", and explained that the secondary strikes have discouraged ordinary civilians from coming to one another's rescue.

One interviewee, describing a strike on his in-laws' home, said a follow-up missile killed would-be rescuers. "Other people came to check what had happened; they were looking for the children in the beds and then a second drone strike hit those people."

A father of four, who lost one of his legs in a drone strike, admitted: "We and other people are so scared of drone attacks now that when there is a drone strike, for two or three hours nobody goes close to [the location of the strike]. We don't know who [the victims] are, whether they are young or old, because we try to be safe."
 
what I shared was a research paper, not a collection from news items, which suggests "suspected militants" which in most cases are civilians...

let me tell you another thing, even if one civilian is killed due to inaccurate information, that is a Crime anyway...

No war can be fought in the modern day and age without civilians being killed or hurt.

This is not the 6th century when Armies met in battlefields, now the war is highly fludic and innocents always get killed.

The Drone is perhaps the most accurate weapon in the history of war to avoid killing civilians.

Indiscriminate Aerial bombardment, artillery salvos, naval fire, air strikes, etc. are all less accurate than the drone.

So unless you can propose another weapon platform that can kill these terrorist animals that are infesting our tribal areas, I will continue to support the drones.
 
Watch his interview with Karan Thapar.
Thanks Rafael, I found the video on YouTube it's almost 40 min. long, I have saved it and as soon as I get the time I will definitely watch it.

Cheers.
 
Guys, what's up with personal attacks and name-calling? This kind of behavior not only lowers the standard of the forum but also waste expensive bandwidth. This is a forum to debate issues, exchange and share opinions, experiences, ideas, knowledge, information, etc.

So please try to refrain from ad hominem attacks and if you have a different point of view, great, let's hear it.

Cheers.
 
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