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Imported Government is going to recognize Israel against Pakistani people wishes

Pakistan was founded on muslim ideology.

Recognizing Israel means we would be giving up Kashmir issue altogether, we have fought 3 wars on this, countless skirmishes.

On 27th Feb, 2019 when PAF downed Indian Mig-21 and SU-30, there was chatter that Israel was directly assisting IAF in carrying out air missions.

In 1980s, Israel planned to attack Pakistan nuclear installations.

Problem is Pakistanis are very lenient and reactive, we realise when the water is overflown. Turkey has different way dealing things, different ball-game.
It surely does.
Pakistan’s whole argument on Kashmir is from a religious stand point. But if we recognize Israel, we can’t claim Kashmir as it’s hypocritical. If we lose the religious aspect, india is in the better position on Kashmir because the Dogra maharaja acceded all of J&K to india. Our claim is that the Dogra maharaja could not join india since majority of Jammu and Kashmir was Muslims and the Muslim area was to be part of Pakistan also, a non Muslim occupier maharaja cannot decide for the Muslim majority.
Recognizing Israel destroys the religious reason we have to lay claim on Kashmir. How can we accept an occupier kaffir occupy Muslim lands with Muslim majority and allow that? Kashmir and Palestine suffer identical occupation so supporting one and rejecting the other destroys our claim to Kashmir.
We only claim Kashmir to be our sovereign territory due to religious grounds. Our existence is due to religious grounds. Our majority population is practicing religious conservative Muslims. Our founding father rejected Israel when he was offered money to accept them and famously said “our souls are not for sale”.

Secularists need to understand unlike Arabs we are many ethnicities making up Pakistan. In Pakistan there’s no such thing as Pakistan to majority of Pakistanis. It’s just Islamic brotherhood. The only reason majority of Pakistanis are part of Pakistan and stand behind Pakistan is due to Islam. The recent Sindhi vs Pashtun violence should have been an eye opener to the secularists.

In Pakistan it’s Islam first, then ethnicity, then caste/tribe. “Pakistan” doesn’t fit into it anywhere. When you remove the Islam part you get ethnic wars all over the country.

Islam is the glue which keeps Pakistan one.



Palestine is primarily an Arab issue. Historically, Palestine and Kashmir were linked as Arabs wanted Pakistan to support them on Palestine in return they supported us on Kashmir.

Even then India kept supporting Palestine to keep some Islamic nations away from supporting us on Kashmir.

Now things have changed. Palestine is no longer a prority for the Arabs. So Palestine and Kashmir issues have been delinked.

Arab states may recognize Israel and may not be obligated to support us on Kashmir but that does not mean we will give up Kashmir.

China will always with Pakistan on Kashmir as they also have a border dispute with India.
 
Palestine is primarily an Arab issue. Historically, Palestine and Kashmir were linked as Arabs wanted Pakistan to support them on Palestine in return they supported us on Kashmir.

Even then India kept supporting Palestine to keep some Islamic nations away from supporting us on Kashmir.

Now things have changed. Palestine is no longer a prority for the Arabs. So Palestine and Kashmir issues have been delinked.

Arab states may recognize Israel and may not be obligated to support us on Kashmir but that does not mean we will give up Kashmir.

China will always with Pakistan on Kashmir as they also have a border dispute with India.

Which world are you living in? There's ceasefire already at LoC.

 
We can and only willing to recognize Palestine. That’s it. Our qibla e awwal shall be liberated inshAllah by the green flags one day under leadership of imam Mahdi and hazrat Isa(AS)……

Anyone willing to accept israel or promote that has weak faith or none at all. The people of Pakistan, most of them anywhere on this planet shall never accept israel. No matter what.
Devil se deal kerni ha ya Allah aur uske Rasool(saw) ko follow kerna? Your choice, but u face consequences then too.
 
Imported government & its handlers wants to recognize Israel in coming days. Citing hyperinflation / impending default as an excuse. It is all scripted.

Here is excerpt from today's dawn article on IMF:





Recognizing Israel would mean that Pakistan gives up Kashmir and two-nation theory which was the sole reason behind foundation of Pakistan. We would become NPCs with no ideology or ambition. The west also wants to denuclearize (defang) Pakistan, so that there remains no one to challenge injustice from muslim world.
Simple is burn down the GHQ and prime minister house as well as any embassy open on our soil. If they want to play the games then we as a nation have got a will to say to these bastards Absolutely not. Can't be going over our heads and deciding any such thing against the will of the nation.
 
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Recognizing Israel means we would be giving up Kashmir issue altogether, we have fought 3 wars on this, countless skirmishes.
once in enough.. two is too much.. three? oh well you guys seriously need to think it over man.

On 27th Feb, 2019 when PAF downed Indian Mig-21 and SU-30, there was chatter that Israel was directly assisting IAF in carrying out air missions.
funny that every yahoo here in PDF thinks Paks win every battle. But you lost all wars with India. Don't get me wrong I'm all in with the idea of Arming Pakistan to the teeth. But seriously you guys need to win some "wars" with those Indian Dudes.

Palestine is primarily an Arab issue. Historically, Palestine and Kashmir were linked as Arabs wanted Pakistan to support them on Palestine in return they supported us on Kashmir.
There was never a Palestinean State ever. If those Arabs accepted the 1947 partition there would be. Instead they tried to destroy Israel. Then Israel beat the crap out of those Arabs. Kinda like how they beat the sh*t outta that Naser fellow.

Kashmir has been divided since both Pak and India were established. Nothing will change. India nor Pak wont budge an inch.
 
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There was never a Palestinean State ever. If those Arabs accepted the 1947 partition there would be. Instead they tried to destroy Israel. Then Israel beat the crap out of those Arabs. Kinda like how they beat the sh*t outta that Naser fellow.
Why would anyone accept their homeland being snatched away from them? how many Jews were in Jerusalem before the 20th century?
 
no, it doesn't, don't sell our rights on Kashmir so cheaply for propaganda purposes

Why do you say that?

We use the same arguments for both.

Kashmir has been divided since both Pak and India were established.

A little after. 1948 war.

Why would anyone accept their homeland being snatched away from them? how many Jews were in Jerusalem before the 20th century?

Both Egypt and Syria boasted about having tea in Jerusalem when they both attacked and they lost.

If they won prob things would be different.
 
Why would anyone accept their homeland being snatched away from them? how many Jews were in Jerusalem before the 20th century?
Did you know of any Palestinean President before 1947? Or a Flag? Jews have been in the place even before Islam.

No such thing as Palestinean homeland. There's like a Million SQM out there in Arab lands. Give them a million problem solve.

Oh and Israel is like a thousand miles from Pakistan. I suggest you guys solve Pak's problem first. It's not like your country is doin very good at the moment
 

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