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Wow I had no idea you were a woman. We talked several times on this forum in the past few years and I always thought you are a male moderator. You always acted so mature and responsible as a moderator here and that's the reason unlike most moderators here you are one of my favorite.Being a woman, I am literally disgusted by women feeling so inferior that they need "aurat march".
Sure we have problems in our societies, name 1 society that doesnt have ANY problem?!
But I am yet to see a society that is tearing down their society in the name of xyz.
1st we tore down our society in the name of religion...Where calling someone a Mullah is like giving gali! To the point claiming someone is educated from Madrasah as a means to look down on that person and so on.
2nd we tried to tear down our society in the name of sects - shia, sunni which are further divided and whatnot!
3rd we are trying to destroy the nation based on province - Punjabi, Sindhi, Pukhtoon and so on....
Now based on women rights? The ONLY problem I see with this, women trying to become men (giving shoulder to janazah) - THAT is not women rights...It is stupidity in the name of injustice!
When ALLAH gave woman a womb, are they going to say nope, sorry men should go give birth? Should we say we dont like being superior? We want to be "equal" to men? We dont want to be exhaled to the point Jannah is in our feet...But we want to be in par with men? - THAT is 1 problem of asking for equality when we already have a higher place - asking to lower it?
Next problem is stupidity and shaming men?! Women rights is rights for women not men shaming game!
Seek your right and move on. Why the need to shame men? According to psychology (if I say according to ISLAM many will roll their eyes this is the level we have fallen to! But if I say PSYCHOLOGIST report the same, everyone will nod their heads like donkeys!) - Those who need to step / pull down another to look good have some form of complex! So aurat march is actually airing this complex by men shaming! VERY SHAMEFUL!
IF you were in Pakistan, you would know this is incorrect! It isnt Mullahs ALONE...there are far too many factors and putting the blame solely on Mullahs is absolutely wrong!
agreed
We definitely need women like you to lead our families as wives and mother's.
Those shameless women just want to dominate the men and hurting their perceived image in society.Not realizing the same men earn bread for them ,do all hard work and even ready to die for them if someone ever try to harm them.They think now alone they are sufficient to manage things and there is no need for men. Would you become a mother without a man? Why in combat roles in militaries there are men mostly? What they are doing is actually against the laws of nature. Both women are men are strong in their own way and a society ,the world at large cannot function without each other.
I am asking those women in aurat march to go live without a brother,father or husband in society and soon they will realize how vulnerable they are without those men they are cursing.
All they want at the end is dirty freedom
in their lives and want to spread vulgarity in society and damage family relationships.Foreign elements identified such women ,funded them for fifth generation warfare to spread anarchy . Why they are not speaking for the kashmiri women getting raped by indian Invaders? That shows who is pulling their strings.
Sorry I got carried away like khalilulrehman.@SecularNationalist Please watch your language...Manners maketh man! Be a man and watch it please!
Actually that guy and is behavior is pathetic .First he tried to attack mullahs unnecessarily , brought them in the topic to divert attention from the real issue .As a moderator you know because of my secular views I have plenty of fights with mullahs here but it's unjust to attack someone without a reason.Later he tried to defend those disgusting women indirectly. And when I mentioned his wife for the sake of arugument didn't attack her at all. He blamed me for attacking her because he had no answer,he wanted all that dirty freedom for someone else wife,mother and sister but he feel angry when it comes down to his own wife.Such people are responsible for spreading this cancer in society.
Of course it's wrong to force your wife for sex if she doesn't give you a consent. I didn't approve such behavior of men and I am sure most caring and civilized men in our society don't force their wives.There are few bad eggs just like everywhere and our society is no exception.Of course it must always be the right of a woman to refuse to submit to the sexual advances of any male, even if that male is her husband.
Sex must under all circumstances be consensual, even in marriage.
The definition of a man forcing a woman against her wishes is rape, even within marriage. Her body is still violated, her mind is still scarred.
The whole point, which has been spectacularly missed is that a woman is not the property of her husband or anyone else. She is in a consensual voluntary relationship. She has her personal dignity and emotions.
She is not a sex slave from the moment of her nikah.
This isn't about morality, it is about the men's perceived right of dominion over women. This is about maintaining the status quo.
It is absolutely her jism, her marzi.
The more educated women become, the more they will reclaim their rights. That is the exact reason backward elements are against educating girls.
What those women in March want is that if a brother,father ask them why you come late at home, hangout with boys and a husband ask her why she is having a extra marital affairs she can shut them up by saying " Mera jism Meri Marzi".That's what I was talking about.