@Fhassan
An absolutely ignorant claim to say the least, not only is your history in the tank your whole notion of blaming humanism for Word war 2 is absolutely hysterical. Please allow me to clarify your misconceptions and give you an insight on your absolutely erroneous claims that you are making.
The erroneous claim that religious belief was the factor that prevented humanity from progressing and drew it into conflict has been disproved by historical experience.
Nothing has been disapproved its human rational thought that has allowed humanity to move forward, i laugh every time someone gives credit to religion for human progress.
'Thou shall not kill' is not so much a religious idea than it is common sense and rational thought. No one wants to live in a society where people kill each other. Human learning, Constitution, law, Science, technology, research, space travel all stemmed from the enlightenment starting mid/late 18th century which was stemmed from the Renaissance which respected the Human as an art form, something to be proud of which was seen as despicable from the threshold of absolute religious clergy (the dark ages from mid 12th century to the late 17th century). People like Galileo were hanged and killed because of idiots who thought the world was flat which was proven false by Galileo.People like Newton's whose law of Gravity revolutionized physics but was termed a heretic. Innocent women were killed because they were termed witches just because some of them enjoyed practicing medicine.
When you are forbidden to question, you are are undermining critical thought and critical thought is what shuns a society and the advancement of technology. Education at it's best encourages people to think independently and to not feel guilty about considering things that are unpopular. Religion says "this is how it is" and discourages any questions or free thinking.
The simple mindset that this world is mere dust and the
'real' is somewhere beyond our reach and lies in the metaphysical realm is fallacious to say the least. You automatically create a mindset which is depriving humans of achieving their true potential because they think they'll achieve something better in the after life thus allowing them to live in the most miserable of conditions simply because this world is not
'real' . This thinking at its basic root is dangerous and holds society back.
I would nonetheless like to touch upon the most important idea. The concept of 'Hellenization' the blending of Greek philosophical idea of reason and rational thought into religion that set the pavement for western democracies later.
Humanists have claimed that the removal of religious belief would make people happy and at ease, however, the opposite has proved to be the case
Bullshit you have no evidence to support that claim. I am a humanist and i am very happy and try to be an optimistic person who loves to learn and who dearly loves the wonders of this world. Happiness comes from personal satisfaction and the will to enjoy what you love doing. Happiness takes many forms and to say that only religious people are happy is so stupid and absurd it makes me want to question your intellect. In fact we sometimes do get sad and angry when we see a suicide bomber run into a group of innocent people to blow himself up or when we see little children being brainwashed by
'Jesus will save us' mentality its sad watch the documentary Jesus Camp.
Six years after the first Humanist Manifesto was published, the Second World War broke out, a record of the calamity brought upon the world by the secular fascist ideology. The humanist ideology of communism wreaked, first on the people of the Soviet Union, then on the citizens of China, Cambodia, Vietnam, North Korea, Cuba and various African and Latin American countries, unparalleled savagery.
Sorry! Humanism has nothing to do with Communism. I hate communism and i am a responsible capitalist. The Basic idea of secularims and humanism is the fact that humans are born with a free concious and are free to persue what they deem fit. Something communism oppresses. In fact communism at its basic root is closest to a religious society, a total
Welfare society. The mullahs in Pakistan want nothing more than a total welfare system something that communism has been successful at. Right now almost all the Scandenvian countries are agnostic/atheist and have the most number of volunteers working around the world to make the world a better place and donate a tremendous amount of money to charity in places like Pakistan, Africa, Far east Asia. Is there a morality collapse there or are people miserable? NO.. In the 21st century let me compare 5 countries whose populations are more than 55% Athiest/Agnostic vs with five Religious countries..
Sweden, Norway, Czech Republic, Finland, Japan, France and South Korea are the most athiest with over 70% people Athiest/Agnostic.. Now lets look at the other half (almost all the Muslim countries) plus
Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Nigeria, Philippines, Somalia, Israel.
So your saying people who are secular or humanists aren't happy? absolutely silly argument on your part.
A total of 120 million people were killed by communist regimes or organizations. It is also evident that the Western brand of humanism (capitalist systems) has not succeeded in bringing peace and happiness to their own societies or to other areas of the world.
PS - Read the humanist manifesto and you will find that this ideology is intrinsically skewed towards the rejection of true religion and as such I find your rhetoric about differentiation hypocritical because humanism in itself seeks to actively reject that which most of the world holds dear.
beep! see the above post.
Its Capitalism which allows the humanist idea of freedom to do what you deem fit a success not communism. Communism is no different than caliphate!! have a nice dictator sit on the bench to rule over everyone who can't think for himself. Capitalism mixed with a little socialism is what is the best society by todays standard like those of western Europe and Canada.
Communism is not, however, inherently atheistic. It is possible to hold communist or socialist economic views while being a theist and it isn't at all uncommon to be an atheist while staunchly defending capitalism — a combination often found among Objectivists and Libertarians, for example. Their existence alone demonstrates, without question, that atheism and communism are not the same thing.
It is the belief that we as humans will have nothing to answer for.
Tell that to the Suicide bomber or the 911 hijackers!! The fact of the matter is humans have the capacity to think and make rational decisions. Thus humans themselves have created a system called Law and that law defines what you are suppose to and are not suppose to do and these laws change every time new technological or knowledge is available thus nothing remains stationary. The Constitution of a country tells us and limits our behavior to whats appropriate and whats not. These laws have come into existence from our past experiences and will continue to change as we learn more from our previous mistakes.
Cheers and Peace (now thats a rare word isn't it)
Harris
