Imam e Kaba to visit Pakistan next month

[Zarvan]

Let me ask you all a simple and very simple question.


If there was a group of terrorists in Saudi who were killing polio/vaccination/health workers in Saudi

Will Saudi Government call in the Imam?


Heck no!


Saudi government doesn't involve Mullahtics in such cases

They just catch the terrorist and his sympathizers and cut their throats.


But something is wrong with our slavish mentality.

Things that even Saudis reject them

We lap them up and down as if it was a mewa thrown from jannat.

What a pathetic news piece.

what a pathetic thing to attribute polio with Mullahs.


When will our Pakistani-at wake up against the religious plague.

When will,



p.s. if he is a nice man personally. he is welcome.

But we should not attach wrong expectations

Its not just about militants their are many families who even don't like Taliban and these type of groups but also have serious questions about this polio movement so to convince them they are doing this

 

[Spring Onion]

WONT Help at all because TTP wants something else out of polio drive attacks

 

[Arabian Legend]

he almost lost his job when he made some political statements in 2006. anyway, good if he can help in anti polio drive !

I always listen to Haramin friday speech (Khutbah Al-Juma'ah), I don't know what you are referring to? Anyway, Imams of Haramin should not engage in politics whatsoever.

 

[FaujHistorian]

I always listen to Haramin friday speech (Khutbah Al-Juma'ah), I don't know what you are referring to? Anyway, Imams of Haramin should not engage in politics whatsoever.

Not just imams of Harmain but no Mullah should use his mosque to engage in politics.

We now have assemblies to do politics.

Your input would be appreciated!

King Abdullah Centre for Inter-religious and Intercultural Dialogue

Bro

The center you talk about is not in KSA,

That center is located in Europe.

Read my post again. It was not a jibe against KSA

But support for KSA government's actions against the likes of Talibarbarians.

Hope you understand now.

 

[Chronos]

Not just imams of Harmain but no Mullah should use his mosque to engage in politics.

We now have assemblies to do politics.



Bro

The center you talk about is not in KSA,

That center is located in Europe.

Read my post again. It was not a jibe against KSA

But support for KSA government's actions against the likes of Talibarbarians.

Hope you understand now.

Well, to be fair, the problem with South Asians is too much politicking and not enough doing. We can't even nail down the basics.

 

[FaujHistorian]

hence no mullah class.

Please no theoritcal stuff.

Reality is that there is a HUGE Mullahtic class now

And not just Mullah clas

But a forking $100 billion private slush fund Ayatullah class.

Project reality and not some theoretical mumbo jumbo to suit some narrow propaganda.

Thank you

Its not just about militants their are many families who even don't like Taliban and these type of groups but also have serious questions about this polio movement so to convince them they are doing this

you as usual are side stepping the issue.

Saudi gov will never call a Mullah in if terrorists are blowing up doctors and nurses.

Only Pakistani Islamists do.

Realize the difference between two countries and two cultures.

Thank you

 

[Arabian Legend]

Not just imams of Harmain but no Mullah should use his mosque to engage in politics.

We now have assemblies to do politics.

No mullas in Saudi Arabia, No one is called mullah here. Also no one by law be it scholar, Imam or whoever is ALLOWED to engage in politics in any place in the country whether in mosque, schools, universities or in any gathering nor allowed to give any speech of any kind without permission from state authority. Pakistan should do the same don't you think?

 

[FaujHistorian]

No mullas in Saudi Arabia, No one is called mullah here. Also no one by law be it scholar, Imam or whoever is ALLOWED to engage in politics in any place in the country whether in mosque, schools, universities or in any gathering nor allowed to give any speech of any kind without permission from state authority. Pakistan should do the same don't you think?

Yeap.

Just like a doctor (in normal circumstances) is not allowed to perform surgery on the road side

instead all the medical procedures are carried in controlled and pre-determined building

Same way

Politics too should be conducted in controlled and pre-determined buildings.


In Pakistan we have many levels of political buildings.

1. Town Halls in cities/small towns
2. State Assembly (at provincial level)
3. National Assembly (Federal level)

people get elected for these places as representative.

These places should be used for politics (and every other place like you said should be banned)



But our Mullahs abuse their position and do politics in the mosques. Such Mullahs will be hanged or simply chopped up in Saudi Arabia.


peace

 

[Zarvan]

Please no theoritcal stuff.

Reality is that there is a HUGE Mullahtic class now

And not just Mullah clas

But a forking $100 billion private slush fund Ayatullah class.

Project reality and not some theoretical mumbo jumbo to suit some narrow propaganda.

Thank you



you as usual are side stepping the issue.

Saudi gov will never call a Mullah in if terrorists are blowing up doctors and nurses.

Only Pakistani Islamists do.

Realize the difference between two countries and two cultures.

Thank you

Mr first at least read what I said before talking shit and Saudi government doesn't have to because its Mullahs so control many things their and their are several people in Pakistan who just simply don't want to get their children polio vaccine all of them are not Taliban nor their supporters but have some funny excuses so to clear those misconceptions they are inviting Imam e Kaba so please at least know why he is coming other than talking crap and bullshit as usual

 

[Leader]

Freedom of being a Muslim.

• No mandatory imam needed to learn the Quran if you can do so on your own.
• No mandatory imam needed to get married, all you need is 2 sane witnesses and 1 registrar/Nikah khwan.
• No mandatory imam needed to have a divorce
• No mandatory imam needed to pray - anyone can lead prayers
• No mandatory imam needed to bless the newborn, you can do it yourself even on skype [Azaan]
• No mandatory imam needed to give charity, start or break fasts, prayers and so on.
• You can pray behind any imam or no imam at all, in any Mosque that comes handy

We are a 'priest free' religion, no wonder why they work so hard to seek attention

I remember Dr Israr saying in jumma khutba that nothing stops you from leading namaz or janaza or saying azan. its no duty of Molvi sahib, when Islam has allowed you and bestowed whole islam onto each one of us in completeness.

 

[Leader]

What is the meaning of Imam ?

something we invented I guess?

some years ago a newly convert asked me the same question. I told her that there is no such status of Imam in Islam, but different sects of muslims hold different beliefs regarding imamiat.. dont take it seriously.. its all made up. I hope I wasnt wrong. @sur

 

[FaujHistorian]

something we invented I guess?

some years ago a newly convert asked me the same question. I told her that there is no such status of Imam in Islam, but different sects of muslims hold different beliefs regarding imamiat.. dont take it seriously.. its all made up. I hope I wasnt wrong. @sur

In theory you are right

in practice, utter fallacy.

Mr first at least read what I said before talking shit and Saudi government doesn't have to because its Mullahs so control many things their and their are several people in Pakistan who just simply don't want to get their children polio vaccine all of them are not Taliban nor their supporters but have some funny excuses so to clear those misconceptions they are inviting Imam e Kaba so please at least know why he is coming other than talking crap and bullshit as usual

Don't change the topic.

Polio workers are murdered by Islamists.

And Saudi gov will never tolerate such people by inviting some imam be him saudi or Pakistani

polio attacks cannot be stopped by Mullahs

Because Mullahs are the ones murdering polio workers.

Hope you understand this time

and realize that if same thing was happening in Sauid

Imam will be 1000th perons on the list for a resolution

First 999 people will be Suadi military, Shurta and intelligence agencies hunting down these Islamist goons and their sympathizers who post Islamist propaganda on the internet.

 

[Sugarcane]

Mera pia ghar aaya!!!

 

[Informant]

In theory you are right

in practice, utter fallacy.



Don't change the topic.

Polio workers are murdered by Islamists.

And Saudi gov will never tolerate such people by inviting some imam be him saudi or Pakistani

polio attacks cannot be stopped by Mullahs

Because Mullahs are the ones murdering polio workers.

Hope you understand this time

and realize that if same thing was happening in Sauid

Imam will be 1000th perons on the list for a resolution

First 999 people will be Suadi military, Shurta and intelligence agencies hunting down these Islamist goons and their sympathizers who post Islamist propaganda on the internet.

Oh the Saudis did an awesome job on containing these rats, do you hear about any suicide or bomb attacks in KSA? Nopes.

 

[Secur]

@Oscar What do you say to the idea of that he denounces the terrorism going in Pakistan and the Taliban movement and declares their ideology and actions against Islam and its true interpretation during his tour to our country ?