Ignorant Muslim Bangladeshi celibrating Benglai new year: Nauzubillah Minzalik

[Al-zakir]

To all those idiots...read on
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Dr. Muntasir Mamun.
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Excerpts from the book, The Festivals of Bangladesh, by Muntasir Mamun.
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I am glad that people like Mr Al-zakir do not exemplify popular and intellectual Bangladesh.

Yes an expert of west bengal Hindu culture. There is only two festivals in Bangladesh. Eid ul fitr and Eid ul adha.

I am not surprised that you quote him because he is your kind of people. We Muslim have nothing to do with him.

So here it goes.....

Mantasir mamun, shariar kabir, humaun azad, taslima nasreen, Gaffar chowdhury, daud hayder are well renowned Munafiq and true anti-Islamic personals in Bangladesh. Their credibility is less than zero when comes to Islamic matter. He belongs to these Tagore loving Islamic named musrik intellectual status. Tagore writing is more valuable to them than qur’aan or hadith (nauzubillah Minzalik). These creatures are responsible for importing this un Islamic culture from west Bengal. Their constant plundering infecting our society with this virus that need strong antidote to kill. They are enemy of Islam. Qur'aan and sunnah is the only answer to those Munafiq. Find me a renowned Islamic scholar that endorsed this celebration of bangla new year and than we talk.

 

[Communist]

Yes an expert of west bengal Hindu culture. There is only two festivals in Bangladesh. Eid ul fitr and Eid ul adha.

I am not surprised that you quote him because he is your kind of people. We Muslim have nothing to do with him.

So here it goes.....

Mantasir mamun, shariar kabir, humaun azad, taslima nasreen, Gaffar chowdhury, daud hayder are well renowned Munafiq and true anti-Islamic personals in Bangladesh. Their credibility is less than zero when comes to Islamic matter. He belongs to these Tagore loving Islamic named musrik intellectual status. Tagore writing is more valuable to them than qur’aan or hadith (nauzubillah Minzalik). These creatures are responsible for importing this un Islamic culture from west Bengal. Their constant plundering infecting our society with this virus that need strong antidote to kill. They are enemy of Islam. Qur'aan and sunnah is the only answer to those Munafiq. Find me a renowned Islamic scholar that endorsed this celebration of bangla new year and than we talk.

Good reply brother. Keep up the good work. He tells something as if he has done Phd in that subject. As India gave shelter to Dalui Lama, India tried to provide shelter to Taslima... Indian secularism is an attacking tool used against the Muslims, though some of them do not understand due to the lack of sense organs...

 

[toxic_pus]

Mantasir mamun, shariar kabir, humaun azad, taslima nasreen, Gaffar chowdhury, daud hayder are well renowned Munafiq and true anti-Islamic personals in Bangladesh. Their credibility is less than zero when comes to Islamic matter. He belongs to these Tagore loving Islamic named musrik intellectual status. Tagore writing is more valuable to them than qur’aan or hadith (nauzubillah Minzalik). These creatures are responsible for importing this un Islamic culture from west Bengal. Their constant plundering infecting our society with this virus that need strong antidote to kill. They are enemy of Islam. Qur'aan and sunnah is the only answer to those Munafiq. Find me a renowned Islamic scholar that endorsed this celebration of bangla new year and than we talk.

Your intellectual constipation is worse than I thought. You have shot the messenger rather than rebutting his arguments. So when you are done vilifying everything and anything that YOU feel is "anti-islamic", do comment on the following.

"In Bengal, Emperor Akbar started the Bengali calender-year on 10 March, 1585, but it became effective from 16 March, 1586 the day of his ascension to the throne. The basis of the Bengali year is the Hejiri lunar year (Muslim era counted from the year of Muhammad's (SM) going to Medina in 622 AD and the Bengali solar year."

That can't be hard. Its all history isn't it.

 

[toxic_pus]

Good reply brother. Keep up the good work. He tells something as if he has done Phd in that subject. As India gave shelter to Dalui Lama, India tried to provide shelter to Taslima... Indian secularism is an attacking tool used against the Muslims, though some of them do not understand due to the lack of sense organs...

Aren't you a communist ? Shouldn't you take umbrage of...

These creatures are responsible for importing this un Islamic culture from west Bengal. Their constant plundering infecting our society with this virus that need strong antidote to kill. They are enemy of Islam. Qur'aan and sunnah is the only answer to those Munafiq.

O silly me. Your communism ends where Islam begins.

 

[Al-zakir]

Well,now that all your suspicions has been done with by gromell and toxic pus,SUBHO NABOBORSHO TO AL ZAKIR AND IDUNE......HOPE YOU JOIN THE CELEBRATIONS NEXT YEAR.......CHEERS

Well you are still not given up with your hindu agenda. Don't count on us celebrate this uncultured festival my hindu friend. Let me qoute you from Biggest reprence avaiable to man kind to clear up my stance.

Sura Al-Kafirun from Al-Qur'aan
1. Qul yaa ayuhal kaafiruun
2. Laa abudu maa tabuduun
3. Walaa antum a'abiduuna ma a'bud
4. Walaa ana a'abidum maa abadttum
5. Walaa antum aabiduun maa a'bud
6. Lakum deenakum waliya deen

Translation

1. Say: O you who reject faith!
2. worship not that which you worship, .
3. Nor will you worship that which I worship,
4. And I will not worship that which you have
5. been wont to worship, Nor will you worship that which I worship.
6. To you be your way, and to me mine.

Last "Iyat" say it all. Neither I nor any of my Muslim brothers (except couple) need to explain our stance when comes to islam to satisfy Indian hindu or even some ignorant Muslim. There must be line drewn between Muslim and non-muslim.

 

[Communist]

"In Bengal, Emperor Akbar started the Bengali calender-year on 10 March, 1585, but it became effective from 16 March, 1586 the day of his ascension to the throne. The basis of the Bengali year is the Hejiri lunar year (Muslim era counted from the year of Muhammad's (SM) going to Medina in 622 AD and the Bengali solar year."

Historians also say that Akbar (Jallaluddin Muhammad) married a Hindu girl and was psychologically hijacked by the girl who introduced the junta politics in the Mughal Court by making two factions, pro-Hindu Mughals and pro-Islamic (rational) Mughals among the Mughal ruling family members. It finally led to the internal weakening of the mighty Mughal Empire, though the British politically captured later.

Satish Chandra's Medieval India can be consulted to know about the junta politics for an introductory study.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Historians also say that Akbar (Jallaluddin Muhammad) married a Hindu girl and was psychologically hijacked by the girl who introduced the junta politics in the Mughal Court by making two factions, pro-Hindu Mughals and pro-Islamic (rational) Mughals among the Mughal ruling family members. It finally led to the internal weakening of the mighty Mughal Empire, though the British politically captured later.

Satish Chandra's Medieval India can be consulted to know about the junta politics for an introductory study.

?

Wasn't Aurangzeb, Akbar's descendent, the mightiest of the mughals, under whom the mughal empire grew to be the largest, who was 'rational' as u say and who brought back jiziya, was he not the last mighty mughal? did it not crumble after his death, largely supplanted by marathas and sikhs and local nizams and NOT british?

Akbar? the empire flourished and did well for generations after akbar, despite the machinations of his evil (obviously) hindooooo wife!

yes i know bringin in the hindu angle is critical, but atleast stay true to basic history.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Well you are still not given up with your hindu agenda. Don't count on us celebrate this uncultured festival my hindu friend. Let me qoute you from Biggest reprence avaiable to man kind to clear up my stance.

Sura Al-Kafirun from Al-Qur'aan
1. Qul yaa ayuhal kaafiruun
2. Laa abudu maa tabuduun
3. Walaa antum a'abiduuna ma a'bud
4. Walaa ana a'abidum maa abadttum
5. Walaa antum aabiduun maa a'bud
6. Lakum deenakum waliya deen

Translation

1. Say: O you who reject faith!
2. worship not that which you worship, .
3. Nor will you worship that which I worship,
4. And I will not worship that which you have
5. been wont to worship, Nor will you worship that which I worship.
6. To you be your way, and to me mine.

Last "Iyat" say it all. Neither I nor any of my Muslim brothers (except couple) need to explain our stance when comes to islam to satisfy Indian hindu or even some ignorant Muslim. There must be line drewn between Muslim and non-muslim.

I asked you earlier, so you are not allowed to celebrate the independence day of bangladesh (or pakistan), or army day, navy day etc?

I just want to know you are really against 'invention' or only allergic to what u perceive to be Hindu!

 

[Jako]

My god, this communist is the fraud of the century.........why does communist care if some bengalis enjoy new year??......you are supposed to be above religious divisions, right?? I didnt think you would let the rabbit out of your hat so easily?? Who are you to question AKBAR,and say his brain was hijacked by a hindu girl(again communalism by communist)??...... He was the greatest ruler of india,under whom we attained a state of maximum unity and religious harmony,damn it!! Dont you dare to distort his image,by your hedious nonsense claims.........

 

[TopCat]

Little Correction on the history of Bengali Calendar. Akbar did not introduced Bengali Calendar rather he Synchronized tax collection with Bengali calendar as Bengali Calendar was based on sular and people in this region was very used to this calendar regarding to harvesting and ploughing. Hizri calendar cant do that as it does not provide constant dates for seasons.

The Hindu solar calendar based on the Surya Siddhanta commences in mid-April of the Gregorian year. The first day of this calendar is celebrated as the traditional New Year in various parts of South Asia, including Assam, Bengal, Kerala, Manipur, Nepal, Orissa, Punjab, Tamil Nadu and Tripura. It is also celebrated as the traditional New Year across Southeast Asia, including Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, and Thailand (see Songkran).

Under the Mughals, agricultural taxes were collected according to the Hijri calendar. However, as the Hijri calendar is a purely lunar calendar, it does not coincide with the harvest. As a result, farmers were hard-pressed to pay taxes out of season. In order to streamline tax collection, the Mughal Emperor Akbar ordered a reform of the calendar. Accordingly, Fatehullah Shirazi, a renowned scholar and astronomer, formulated the Bengali year on the basis of the Hijri lunar and solar Hindu solar calendars. The new Fasli San (agricultural year) was introduced on 10/11 March 1584, but was dated from Akbar's ascension to the throne in 1556. The new year subsequently became known as Bônggabdo or Bengali year.

Celebrations of Pohela Boishakh started from Akbar's reign. It was customary to clear up all dues on the last day of Choitro. On the next day, or the first day of the new year, landlords would entertain their tenants with sweets. On this occasion there used to be fairs and other festivities. In due course the occasion became part of domestic and social life, and turned into a day of merriment. The main event of the day was to open a halkhata or new book of accounts. This was wholly a financial affair. In villages, towns and cities, traders and businessmen closed their old account books and opened new ones. They used to invite their customers to share sweets and renew their business relationship with them. This tradition is still practised, especially by jewellers.

 

[TopCat]

The most celebration takes place in Thailand then Bangladesh based on this calendar.

Thanks

 

[TopCat]

Yes such comment is expected form some one like your Status. Getting a thank from Indian enforced it even further. I personally not surprise because such Un-Islamic activity is part of your so called high quality bengali culture thus it's OK to practice even if it goes against Islamic norms and value. Good for you and keep it up....

Here you go... you got that right now.....

 

[Communist]

My god, this communist is the fraud of the century.........why does communist care if some bengalis enjoy new year??......you are supposed to be above religious divisions, right?? I didnt think you would let the rabbit out of your hat so easily?? Who are you to question AKBAR,and say his brain was hijacked by a hindu girl(again communalism by communist)??...... He was the greatest ruler of india,under whom we attained a state of maximum unity and religious harmony,damn it!! Dont you dare to distort his image,by your hedious nonsense claims.........

'Sudh'. 'Shuddhata'. Do you know the meaning of the term? 'Purity'. The question is about Islamic Purity in Islamic practices. Actually, you live in a Khichri. You cannot get what Shudhdhata means. I do not like hodgepodge food item. I cannot digest khichri. Either you be a white, or stay black. Semi white semi black concepts create problem. You have failed to maintain your purity in your religion, now you want to pollute other religions. Jakir is talking about ideological corruption. This is not extremism. So I like an ABVP member who looks like an Aryan and claims himself to be a Brahmin. Though he is my ideological enemy, but I like his 'shuddhata'. When a communist maintains shuddhata, it feels nice. When a Muslim maintains purity, it feels nice. If you are a pure blood Brahmin by birth and if love Hinduism, then assert your Hindu identity. Be a proud Hindu. Even your enemies will respect you. But you need to maintain purity of blood and purity of belief.

As I said earlier...
http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...50-importance-being-secular-6.html#post355377

 

[toxic_pus]

Little Correction on the history of Bengali Calendar. Akbar did not introduced Bengali Calendar rather he Synchronized tax collection with Bengali calendar as Bengali Calendar was based on sular and people in this region was very used to this calendar regarding to harvesting and ploughing. Hizri calendar cant do that as it does not provide constant dates for seasons.

Thank you borda, for the clarification...

 

[Jako]

'Sudh'. 'Shuddhata'. Do you know the meaning of the term? 'Purity'. The question is about Islamic Purity in Islamic practices. Actually, you live in a Khichri. You cannot get what Shudhdhata means. I do not like hodgepodge food item. I cannot digest khichri. Either you be a white, or stay black. Semi white semi black concepts create problem. You have failed to maintain your purity in your religion, now you want to pollute other religions. Jakir is talking about corruption. This is not extremism. So I like an ABVP member who looks like an Aryan and claims himself to be a Brahmin. Though he is my ideological enemy, but I like his 'shuddhata'. When a communist maintains shuddhata, it fells nice. When a Muslim maintain purity, it feels nice. If you are a pure blood Brahmin by birth and if love Hinduism, then assert your Hindu identity. Be a proud Hindu. Even your enemies will respect you. But you need to maintain purity of blood and purity of belief.

As I said earlier...
http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...50-importance-being-secular-6.html#post355377

man i just love khichuri ,specially in a rainy day,yummy!!! And you stay out of commenting about my 'purity'.........it doesnot matter if i am pure or suddho in religious matter.......what does matter is that i stay pure within my soul........brahmins,huh?? Those days are gone day dreamer,this is the time of the working class........how many brahmins have you seen,recent days?? Regarding aryans as only brahmins , i beg to differ.,.....ever heard of the dravids of india......the original indians before aryan advent in india....... Regarding myself,i know my parents are hindu but i stay out of this religion thing......i do not worship any god and believe they would bring me heaven,i believe in myself and i work to reach my goal.......i am not a guy who confuses communism and religion and doctors both to suit himself.....i had to choose and i choose communism,as it does away with ethnic divisions and religious discriminations .......thnx