‘If war breaks out … I will just become cannon fodder:’ In Taiwan, ex-conscripts feel unprepared for potential China conflict

[beijingwalker]

Ah so now Socialists support Socialists,but earlier it was "why other countries meddle in China civil war?"

We all know I m talking about military intervention, every country supports some country based on their interests, but sending armies and navies to fight wars is a whole different story, we never have problems with US supporting its allies.

 

[Foinikas]

We all know I m talking about military intervention, every country supports some country based on their interests, but sending armies and navies to fight wars is a whole different story, we never have problems with US supporting its allies.

Then why do you have problems when Taiwan buys US weapons?

 

[Beast]

USAF B-29 bonber on the pretext of mis bombing , bomb Chinese villages nearby the border of Korea.

What did China have to do with Korean and Vietnamese civil wars?

Same as Vietnam forces harass and crossborder into Chinese territory to attack Chinese villages and purge Chinese citizens in Vietnam

Chinese Fleeing Vietnam Report Harassment and Forced Moves (Published 1978)

accounts by Chinese refugees fleeing Vietnam tend to substantiate charges by China that Vietnam has harassed them, confiscated their property and forced them to 'volunteer' to move to new econ zones; ints with ethnic Chinese reaching refugee camps also suggest that part of problem is that...

www.nytimes.com

And in Vietnam?

 

[Foinikas]

USAF B-29 bonber on the pretext of mis bombing , bomb Chinese villages nearby the border of Korea.

Same as Vietnam forces harass and crossborder into Chinese territory to attack Chinese villages and purge Chinese citizens in Vietnam

Chinese Fleeing Vietnam Report Harassment and Forced Moves (Published 1978)

accounts by Chinese refugees fleeing Vietnam tend to substantiate charges by China that Vietnam has harassed them, confiscated their property and forced them to 'volunteer' to move to new econ zones; ints with ethnic Chinese reaching refugee camps also suggest that part of problem is that...

www.nytimes.com

Because Communist China wasn't actively helping North Vietnam,huh?

 

[SecularNationalist]

One should not draw conclusions like these. Saddam Hussein was also of the view that Americans cannot fight. Where is he and everything that he created now?

Loyal servant of Uncle Sam is so blind in love that now he can't differentiate between Iraq and global power like china

 

[beijingwalker]

Then why do you have problems when Taiwan buys US weapons?

Because it broke China-US joint communique and the treaty between the two China and US, China never signed any treaty with US about VIetnam, you really should learn some basic history before talking.

 

[Beast]

Because Communist China wasn't actively helping North Vietnam,huh?

If China didn't actively help North Vietnam , how did they won the civil war? Why the american army didn't cross the line to directly attack North Vietnam? You thinks it's by virtue of north vietnam military superiority?

And who is the one supply them with foods and ammunition when USN shut off all sea route of north vietnam? Soviet Union

 

[Foinikas]

If China didn't actively help North Vietnam , how did they won the civil war? Why the american army didn't cross the line to directly attack North Vietnam? You thinks it's by virtue of north vietnam military superiority?

And who is the one supply them with foods and ammunition when USN shut off all sea route of north vietnam? Soviet Union

That's what I'm saying

 

[renhai]

Taiwan #1

of course. Taiwan Province is 100 year ahead of Turkey.

 

[renhai]

Because Communist China wasn't actively helping North Vietnam,huh?

The only mistake of communist China is not to "clean" Greece with nuclear weapons.

 

[renhai]

US withdrew from Afghanistan "only." This was due to Afghan Taliban accepting American demand for not allowing Al-Qaeda Network to plot more attacks on American assets from Afghanistan like in earlier times.

This withdrawal allows US to focus on other flashpoints. Good decision from American standpoint.

American war-machine has global footprint and reach regardless:

The "let's agree to disagree" statement does not change the facts that I have highlighted to inform you. You are choosing to ignore them because they challenge your nationalistic worldview. Not very smart of you.

Nationalism is good until it turns into "hubris." Well... Be my guest.

Focus in the "context."

Iraq became a battle-hardened and well-equipped country in the 1980s:

In 2016 Pakistan Responded to the Turkish Request for Pakistani Pilots:Air Vice Marshal Ghulam Abbas Ghumman

Saddam at the time had the strongest Arab army, no other Arab army came even close, but his army wasn't a match for Pakistan. Saddam had the 4th most powerful military in the world. It's the other way around. Pakistan's military was no match for Saddam's military.

defence.pk

In 2016 Pakistan Responded to the Turkish Request for Pakistani Pilots:Air Vice Marshal Ghulam Abbas Ghumman

Saddam at the time had the strongest Arab army, no other Arab army came even close, but his army wasn't a match for Pakistan. Saddam had the 4th most powerful military in the world. It's the other way around. Pakistan's military was no match for Saddam's military.

defence.pk

I can draw a similar comparison between Iraq and China as in 1990.

Saddam Hussein would be proud with what he had built for his country by 1990 but his pride turned into HUBRIS.

He chose to annex Kuwait by force in 1990 and disregarded calls from multiple countries to withdraw Iraqi forces from Kuwait. Saddam stood his ground and chose to fight a war with USA instead - his biggest mistake. He also thought that Americans cannot fight Iraq in its home turf.

Guess what was the outcome.

You can say that China has learned lessons from Iraq and built a capable war machine. I can see it.

But it looks like you do not have much idea about apparent limitations of the Chinese weapon systems.

I shall give you some pointers:

Can Indian T-90, T-72 MBTs be considered obsolete?

West has not been tested in a battle where the enemy has the same access to firepower as Ukraine. US-led forces fought and defeated the Wehrmacht much like any other opposing force around the world where they could execute armored thrusts and/or apply combined arms doctrine. Where the...

defence.pk

PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

Pakistan Air Force 🇵🇰 Chengdu J-10CE 🐲 multi-role fighter armed with PL-15E BVR and PL-10E HOBS Missiles. PAF really needs to hire some professional photographers to take pictures for its calendars. Those pictures are poorly framed interms of the picture and the setup ...

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PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

No, I don't think so. @LKJ86 says it was from the PLAAF’s official weibo account. That’s as official as it gets, is it not?

defence.pk

WE can all hope that the issue of Taiwan can be resolved peacefully. By all means.

But to assume that a battle-hardened superpower cannot fight a war with China near its borders? That it is not preparing itself for various possibilities in the Pacific? Dude...

Your example is not accurate.

A better example is the Korean War. China VS UN Army

Compare China with Iraq. This is because you don't know China.

 

[LegionnairE]

of course. Taiwan Province is 100 year ahead of Turkey.

Let it be known that the Republic of China is the best China

 

[renhai]

Let it be known that the Republic of China is the best China

exactly. As early as 1949, ROC was 100 years ahead of Turkey.

 

[Foinikas]

The only mistake of communist China is not to "clean" Greece with nuclear weapons.

Oh come on renhai,you don't mean that

 

[renhai]

A nation whose people aren't willing to pay the price of freedom can never win a war nor can it rebuild itself

yeah. It's like a country with 1 billion Dalits.

Oh come on renhai,you don't mean that

Oh come on renhai,you don't mean that

don't worry. I will not humiliate you like a Turk. I only kill people.