If Vietnam can beat China, so can India. This is not 1962.

[AnnoyingOrange]

But how do you explain, Modi wishing bday, Soldiers holding banners and 4th Indian peace begging mission??

There is not peace begging mission.... and there are no soldiers holding banners.... unless Chinese Propogandu machinery has doctored some new videos and facts...

 

[empirefighter]

If Chinese generals have balls they would have attacked by now... all this ranting has left China with loss of face in global community.. so it wants to scale back.. but its looking for an excuse...

For this point , I agree with you. In China, the military suffered a lot for not reacting in the first time. But it is good thing for us, maybe we lose face this time ,but you will get nothing from this conflict. And the good thing for us: our policy to India may change a lot, from caring India national interest to ignoring India when we step into South Asian. In the end ,you will see you will lose a lot. As I said, too early to declare you are the winner, we are very patient country , if we are the country like India, we had been attacked and destroyed by USA and USSR when we were young and weak.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

For this point , I agree with you. In China, the military suffered a lot for not reacting in the first time. But it is good thing for us, maybe we lose face this time ,but you will get nothing from this conflict. And the good thing for us: our policy to India may change a lot, from caring India national interest to ignoring India when we step into South Asian. In the end ,you will see you will lose a lot. As I said, too early to declare you are the winner, we are very patient country , if we are the country like India, we had been attacked and destroyed by USA and USSR when we were young and weak.

Poor English and hollow words... China thought it could bully Bhutan just like the way t is able to arm twist smaller neighbors... but Chinese forgot to add India Bhutan relationship into their equation and now China has plastered itself into a diplomatic corner... we are loving every moment of Chinese ranting... and those doctored videos of ...WE Will Attack India... Chines Army bigger than Mountain...and a truck load of bullshit.

 

[SrNair]

India will withdraw. After Doval gets a concession on NSG or Hafiz Saeed or both.

Doubtful .Because this stand off was the renegage of same agreement that Chinese signed in 2012.
They dont even care their own words .
We cant trust them

 

[Jackdaws]

Right now India is stuck in Chinese territory and wants a face saving exit by demanding both sides withdraw. China is enjoying the show.

Sure. India is in Bhutanese territory. China is jumping up and down and coming up with a new "last warning" everyday.

 

[ito]

There is a massive military imbalance between China and India. I thought that would be the end of it but then you put down "Global Firepower" as your evidence.
Here's a simple fact for you China has a complete military industry that makes everything from bullets to its fifth generation jet. India is the world's highest importer of weapons. Common sense dictates you don't get into such a fight.

I doubt massive difference...if you look at defense expenditure based on purchasing parity China has twice the India's defense budget but also remember that China has a manpower of 2.3 million to India's 1.3 million...so majority of Chinese budget goes into salaries...

Moreover, Chinese import of Su35's say that their high end defense industry in not that developed. And on India....India imports are small fraction of its whole defense budget and confined to high end equipment.

 

[SrNair]

There is a massive military imbalance between China and India. I thought that would be the end of it but then you put down "Global Firepower" as your evidence.
Here's a simple fact for you China has a complete military industry that makes everything from bullets to its fifth generation jet. India is the world's highest importer of weapons. Common sense dictates you don't get into such a fight.

Wrong .
Our import are just few items but very expensive and most advanced in the world.
Rest of the ammunitions and other items are making by OFB and used in previous wars and will also in future.

 

[Jlaw]

To all the Chinese: It is meaningless to talk with Indian people, they live in a different world. Time will tell who will be the winner. The only weakness for us is :we are too kind to threat this filthy ,stupid race, wish our leader learn lesson from this conflict and help dividing India.

Not sure why Chinese members love to engage these sub human. stop educating these filthy turd world people

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Not sure why Chinese members love to engage these sub human. stop educating these filthy turd world people

Yes.. Chinese members should go and start loading their painted sewer pipes on to the trucks and start parading them as 200000KM missiles....

 

[Kai Liu]

I doubt massive difference...if you look at defense expenditure based on purchasing parity China has twice the India's defense budget but also remember that China has a manpower of 2.3 million to India's 1.3 million...so majority of Chinese budget goes into salaries...

Moreover, Chinese import of Su35's say that their high end defense industry in not that developed. And on India....India imports are small fraction of its whole defense budget and confined to high end equipment.

Well, high end like rifle bullets

 

[ZY-CN-CA]

Sure? Read more
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cao_Bang_(1979)

I read clear
Aftermath
Although the Chinese had eventually captured Cao Bằng from the Vietnamese 346th Division...??who is Cao Bằng?why write his name ,he is a very important man???(I'm curious) and this article not said Vietnam did not beat China..Not enough to refute “ Vietnam did not beat China. Before starting the war, China had told the world it would be a punishment war. No intention of occupying Vietnam's land. PLA didn't lose any battle before retreat. And the retreat was also scheduled.”

 

[Han Patriot]

I doubt massive difference...if you look at defense expenditure based on purchasing parity China has twice the India's defense budget but also remember that China has a manpower of 2.3 million to India's 1.3 million...so majority of Chinese budget goes into salaries...

Moreover, Chinese import of Su35's say that their high end defense industry in not that developed. And on India....India imports are small fraction of its whole defense budget and confined to high end equipment.

58% of Indian military budget is used for salaries/pensions etc, that's roughly 25 bil$. Assuming Chinese salaries are 2000 US a month(very very high, almost general level pay), 2000 x 12 x 2000000 = 48 bil$. China has another 100 bil$ to spend. That's 4 times your amount, and most of our weapons are made in China, further multiplying the value of the expenditure. You do the math.

Wrong .
Our import are just few items but very expensive and most advanced in the world.
Rest of the ammunitions and other items are making by OFB and used in previous wars and will also in future.

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...e-to-be-replaced-by-imported-weapons-4555790/

 

[waz]

I doubt massive difference...if you look at defense expenditure based on purchasing parity China has twice the India's defense budget but also remember that China has a manpower of 2.3 million to India's 1.3 million...so majority of Chinese budget goes into salaries...

Moreover, Chinese import of Su35's say that their high end defense industry in not that developed. And on India....India imports are small fraction of its whole defense budget and confined to high end equipment.

It's not a doubt my friend just look at the equipment levels. Their budget is four times the size of India's.
As for China's imports, their imports are shrinking by the year, and the su-35 isn't their most advanced either. Please read this;

its arms imports fell by 11 per cent between the two five-year periods, the institute found.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/20/chin...liance-on-outside-providers-report-finds.html

India is the world's largest importer of weapons. As for "high end" equipment. Come on dude....The SU-35, Apache block IIIE Guardian, C-17 Globemaster, P-8 Poseidon etc.

 

[Viet]

I read clear
Aftermath
Although the Chinese had eventually captured Cao Bằng from the Vietnamese 346th Division...??who is Cao Bằng?why write his name ,he is a very important man???(I'm curious) and this article not said Vietnam did not beat China..Not enough to refute “ Vietnam did not beat China. Before starting the war, China had told the world it would be a punishment war. No intention of occupying Vietnam's land. PLA didn't lose any battle before retreat. And the retreat was also scheduled.”

First. There is nothing you can be proud of in attacking Vietnam. You sold your dignity for a handful dollars.

Second. Cao Bang, Lang Son and many other small towns and cities along the border to China build VN first line of defense. The posts are manned by border defense units and militias. We know those light armed units can never withstand enemy onslaughts for a long time, their primary task is to slow down China army advances giving time for the standing army to build up defenses. The PLA capturing Lang Son did not surprise anyone. We have seen it previously in the war with the Han, Yuan, Song, Ming, Qing.

Last, The PLA suffered with nearly 4,500 men per day during the 2-week war. Worse than the german casualties during the last days of Stalingrad battle. You can celebrate your Chinese deaths as victory as you like.

http://www.pravdareport.com/world/asia/05-03-2009/107193-vietnam_china-0/

China could not effort a war of attrition, a war with the risk of USSR invasion in the northern front, a war with the risk of nuclear annihilation. That is the reason why the PLA withdrew quickly from Vietnam. Not because you are too nice.

 

[Afzal2010]

That is not weird , it is easy thinking. Because we know we can defeat India, so if we really fight with Indian and defeat them ,no Chinese think it is a great job, it is merely a good job. But USA is power than us, if we defeat USA ,that is great and proud thing.
A war between China and India is acceptable for China, we know we can win in the end if we take it seriously ,and we donot worry about the revenge from India, the only thing we lose is the friendship between us, but we will make more friends with the countries in South Asia. But this risk is too high for India, India may never a country like today. So it is acceptable for us if there is a war.

I hear you. So why didn't China unleash it's war machines against India ?