If there is a war between China - Viet Nam in SCS

[Snomannen]

... weakest opponent from 10th Century up to now. Since we regained our independence, China is the weakest opponent ever. We have to use guerrilla warfare against France and US, but we don't need to use it against China, except Lam Son war in 15th century.

At least the Chinese Qing Empire was Vietnam's suzerain until the French arrived, also Vietnam copied political system and culture from the northerners.
And yes the Chinese military forces during these hundreds year are pretty disappointing. They even used to hire Vietnamese to handle some particular firearms in the Ming Dynasty.

 

[USAHawk785]

Another thread of Chinese conscript rejects talking tough.

bwahahaha! i couldn't agree more.

 

[EastSea]

Vietnam is a failed student of China, while attempting to learn from China the system, culture, economy, opportunism...

In cold war with socialism pack, China Vietnam both learnt from USSR. China had did his own inventions like big leaf forward, Great cultural revolution... there was human made idiot things. No thing to learn from China.

"Manchu boys" are Chinese. So share the glory of their motherland with all 56 ethnics.

LOL! If Manchu were a separate country, I fully believe they would be less glorious, but still 100 times better than your shameful Vietnamese who gains 0 medal!

What a shame! Even North Korea is better than you!

Some Manchu guys are jokers on PDF, buzzy for war against Vietnam, but themselves lost their identity and home land, don't show any special things other than muscle job to win olimpic medals.
In the past DDR (west German) was always on top same as China did today. It's depending on investment. There is game, no more. If we have more money We should importing African friends they do it for us.

Rightly said!

China spanked Vietnam, and will spank Vietnam again.

Let people in the world laughing on Chinese with such idiot spanking.

 

[USAHawk785]

Even in the unlikely event we do, we'll make sure to wipe you off the map with nuclear weapons first.

Please, do think before you post. China is a signatory of the Non-nuclear proliferation pact. Vietnam is not a nuclear power nor does it have nuclear capability; if the Chinese were to launch a nuclear strike on Vietnam, the repercussions would be catastrophic. Not to mention the close proximity of Vietnam to China, it would be detrimental to the region.

China's hypothetical action would also be subject to global punishment.

So, please, do think before you post. Don't be asinine.

At least the Chinese Qing Empire was Vietnam's suzerain until the French arrived, also Vietnam copied political system and culture from the northerners.
And yes the Chinese military forces during these hundreds year are pretty disappointing. They even used to hire Vietnamese to handle some particular firearms in the Ming Dynasty.

The Qing Dynasty was not Chinese, but of ethnic Manchu origin, who are much more closer to the Jurchen tribal culture ; alien to the Han culture of the south.

The last Han dynasty was the Ming Dynasty , which collapsed in the late 17th century , which , in regards to Confucian political processes, lost the "Mandate of Heaven" to the foreign and barbaric Manchus (who are ethnically and linguistically related to the Mongols and Jurchen tribes of the north).

 

[USAHawk785]

At least the Chinese Qing Empire was Vietnam's suzerain until the French arrived, also Vietnam copied political system and culture from the northerners.
And yes the Chinese military forces during these hundreds year are pretty disappointing. They even used to hire Vietnamese to handle some particular firearms in the Ming Dynasty.

The Qing Dynasty was not Chinese, but of ethnic Manchu origin, who are much more closer to the Jurchen tribal culture ; alien to the Han culture of the south.

The last Han dynasty was the Ming Dynasty , which collapsed in the late 17th century , which , in regards to Confusion political processes, lost the "Mandate of Heaven" to the foreign and barbaric Manchus (who are ethnically and linguistically related to the Mongols and Jurchen tribes of the north).

The difference between Manchu Culture Vs Han Culture:

Manchu woman in ethnic regalia

A Han woman

 

[Snomannen]

The Qing Dynasty was not Chinese, but of ethnic Manchu origin, who are much more closer to the Jurchen tribal culture ; alien to the Han culture of the south.

The last Han dynasty was the Ming Dynasty , which collapsed in the late 17th century , which , in regards to Confusion political processes, lost the "Mandate of Heaven" to the foreign and barbaric Manchus (who are ethnically and linguistically related to the Mongols and Jurchen tribes of the north).

Chinese are ethnic groups including Manchu, Mongols, Tibetan etc, not only Han. You don't even know what Chinese is.
If the Qing Dynasty was not Chinese, then Mughal Empire was not Indian, Germany Empire was not German.

 

[Snomannen]

Some Manchu guys are jokers on PDF, buzzy for war against Vietnam, but themselves lost their identity and home land, don't show any special things other than muscle job to win olimpic medals.

Blah blah blah olimpic medals here olimpic medals there, even "lost-their-identity-and-homeland" Manchu people can beat noisy guy like you in olimpic medals.
Save your time from sowing dissension, Manchu people are loyal to their homeland China.
Nowadays the revival of Manchu language is in progress, we as brothers are supporting their plan. Why don't you just stop being rude and dance in front of our faces.

 

[Rechoice]

Chinese are ethnic groups including Manchu, Mongols, Tibetan etc, not only Han. You don't even know what Chinese is.
If the Qing Dynasty was not Chinese, then Mughal Empire was not Indian, Germany Empire was not German.

Manchu, Mongol ...lived in north area of Great Wall, they invaded and ruled China.

 

[Snomannen]

Manchu, Mongol ...lived in north area of Great Wall, they invaded and ruled China.

I wonder how Bismarck the Prussian invaded his country Germany.

 

[LetsGetRowdy]

Manchu, Mongol ...lived in north area of Great Wall, they invaded and ruled China.

And today both Manchuria and Mongolia (Inner Mongolia/Mongol heartland) are part of China. They may have invaded but in the end they became part of China, making the country even bigger and stronger.

 

[Snomannen]

And today both Manchuria and Mongolia (Inner Mongolia/Mongol heartland) are part of China. They may have invaded but in the end they became part of China, making the country even bigger and stronger.

Manchuria and Mongolia never invaded "China", there was not such a country call "China" before the Republic.
Same story in Germany.

 

[LetsGetRowdy]

Manchuria and Mongolia never invaded "China", there was not such a country call "China" before the Republic.
Same story in Germany.

In the end, they are part of what is today known as "China".

 

[Mercenary]

How tense is the Sino-Vietnamese border?

Could a war actually happen?

 

[Icecreamcart]

How tense is the Sino-Vietnamese border?

Could a war actually happen?

They just settled a long border dispute with each other. So a land invasion is unlikely. Any conflict would be decided in the air and seas. There'll be a protracted skirmish along the border though.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/chines...vietnam-settle-long-disputed-land-border.html

 

[Mercenary]

They just settled a long border dispute with each other. So a land invasion is unlikely. Any conflict would be decided in the air and seas. There'll be a protracted skirmish along the border though.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/chines...vietnam-settle-long-disputed-land-border.html

I think the situation between Vietnam and China is similar to Bangladesh and India.

India helped Bangladesh defeat Pakistan in a similar way China helped Vietnam defeat USA but given that the alliance was only temporary between these ancient enemies, now Bangladesh is buying Pakistani Arms against India in a similar way that Vietnam is now buying Arms from USA against China.

And just like Bangladesh is a thorn on India's side, Vietnam is also a thorn on China's side, impeding its growth and its ability to project power.