If Pakistan were to Vanish tomorrow how would it be ranked among the muslim empires of this region and middle east?

[Laozi]

Im talking about gunpower empires, ottomans, Delhi Sultanate. We study these empires. Im wondering if future generations will study Pakistan in the same way.

Future generations will take decades to figure out why Pakistanis chose to be called the descendants of Arabs and gave up their Sindu culture.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Only country curved out the in the name and of religion, which miraculously came into being on 27th of Ramzan, also end-up becoming the only Muslim nuclear power despite all odds.
Yet:

Pakistan is a case study for those who want to study Hybrid mix of Slave minded population groups residing along side warrior minded populations groups.

* Country that can build nukes but scared to build a long range missile to actually use it, when required.

* Country that can build and maintain a large Army but uses it to provide security guard duty at football stadiums, and scared to use it in actual conflict abroad because what other will perceive.

* Country failed to gain geopolitically clout and reap benefits which is the dividend of large nuclear armed military.

* Country once supposedly Lumber #1 agency which sells its own citizens for $5000. Agencies that failed to preempt hybrid warfare, insurgency, foreign military raids and presence of foreign tactical teams inside it own country.

Country that is literally still present because of ”kisi babay ki dua “

 

[Rusty2]

Future generations will take decades to figure out why Pakistanis chose to be called the descendants of Arabs and gave up their Sindu culture.

No Pakistani calls themselves decedents of arabas. This is a fever dream claim by the same incels from the East who claim to have Vedic internet, airplanes and nuclear power.

 

[TheSolution]

Future generations will take decades to figure out why Pakistanis chose to be called the descendants of Arabs and gave up their Sindu culture.

Never met a single Pakistani who claims to be a descendant of Arabs

(Apart from some social media girls who are aware they are larping)

 

[jamahir]

Future generations will take decades to figure out why Pakistanis chose to be called the descendants of Arabs and gave up their Sindu culture.

What is this "Sindu culture" ?

 

[Laozi]

No Pakistani calls themselves decedents of arabas. This is a fever dream claim by the same incels from the East who claim to have Vedic internet, airplanes and nuclear power.

Never met a single Pakistani who claims to be a descendant of Arabs

(Apart from some social media girls who are aware they are larping)

My bad

Pakistanis believe that they are descendants of foreign invaders who ruled over Hindus in India for centuries.

 

[Laozi]

What is this "Sindu culture" ?

Indus river has given humanity the most fertile land on this planet to thrive. People are living there for thousands of years before Islam. Most of that region happens to be in present Pakistan.

 

[Goritoes]

Pakistan Army's most deadliest weapon is its ability to create P0orn videos, can't beat that technology.

 

[jamahir]

Indus river has given humanity the most fertile land on this planet to thrive. People are living there for thousands of years before Islam. Most of that region happens to be in present Pakistan.

Please stop with your Hindutva fantasies induced by gau mutr. While Indus gave India lot of its waters it is Iraq which is called the Cradle of Civilization. Hindus came into India from Iran 3000 years ago and before the Hindus had lived the people of the Indus Valley Civilization who are said to have come in from Iraq, and much before the IVC have been living the native tribals who have nothing to do with Hinduism. The tribals are now demanding the right to their own religion called Sarna Dharma to be completely disconnected from Hinduism as is imposed on them :

While tribal communities follow different religious practices and traditions, in addition to speaking different languages, they are united in their demand. Satyanarayan says, “Our assessment is that there are 83 religious pracitces among tribals in the country. No matter which community we belong to, we will follow our beliefs, customs, deities, rituals, culture, in our own way. But we should be granted a specific religious identity at the national level so that we can stand on our own and not seek refuge in another religion.”

When posed the same question, Mahendra Dhruva says, “At present, representatives from 19 states have gathered here. We have reached a consensus that despite the differences in our beliefs and cultures at the regional level, all tribal communities should have the same religious identity or code at the national level.”

The representatives believe that the religious practices of different tribal communities in the country are similar to a large extent, as most of them are worshipers of nature. They say their philosophical ideas are also similar.

The Sarna Adivasis of Jharkhand have put forward this demand for several years. They demand not to be counted as Hindus in the census, saying their religion is Sarna. Members of the community inhabit the Chhota Nagpur region.

“Brahminism is responsible”

Speaking to The Wire, researcher and founder editor of Adivasi Resurgence, Aakash Poyam said in the census conducted by the British, tribals were classified as ‘Animists’. “But when the time came for the census in 1941, anthropologist Verrier Elwin, who was the advisor to the government of India, conducted a study on Bastar’s Madia tribals. He suggested that since they were closer to Shaivism, which is a part of Hinduism, they should be considered Hindus.”

Since then, tribes who were not Christians began to be counted as Hindus. “As a result, tribal communities had to suffer a lot historically. The Gondwana Mahasabha started demanding the Koya Punem religion for Adivasis even before 1950. There were demands for Gondi religion too, but it did not get recognition,” he said.



Despite constituting a major chunk of the country’s population, and following different religious practices, why have tribes been deprived of a separate religious identity? Aakash holds the Brahmanical ideology responsible for it.

“After independence, all those who came to power were followers of the Brahmanical ideology. That’s why they viewed tribals from that perspective. The RSS calls the adivasis ‘vanvasis’, or forest-dwellers, a label we do not approve. With this kind of hatred and discrimination, the government will not recognise the demands. Labelling tribals as Hindus swells the Hindu population and increases their vote bank. On the other hand, many tribals have also started identifying themselves as Hindus because that’s what they have been told repeatedly since 1950,” says Aakash.

All tribal communities follow the same philosophy

Quoting an instance, Aakash says he asked his grandfather how he came to be a Hindu. “He told me, it is because it was written on his caste certificate. Hindu is written under religion and Gond under caste. He has been identified as Hindu since independence,” he says.



Due to the repetition over the past 60-70 years, the current generations automatically identify themselves as Hindus. “But when you look at their customs and traditions, they have no connection with the Hindu religion,” the researcher says.

According to Aakash, an option should be provided to identify all tribal communities. Whether it is Koya Punem, Adi, Sarna, or any other, they all believe in aboriginal philosophy.

Pakistan Army's most deadliest weapon is its ability to create P0orn videos, can't beat that technology.

Not this one ?

 

[Catalystic]

An empire that fought multiple wars. Lost every war. Broke into two. Paid allegiance to world powers for arms and money. And after this I do not know how the story ends, but it has not been close to glorious up until now. If anything it is the legacy remnant of other empires that did a lot more in their time. Probably the last burning ember before the fire goes out.

Lol, thats just optics.
Don’t care what you believe or not believe but I am 100% firm in my belief of the hadith of the Prophet(pbuh), the only thing that actually matters.
Our destiny:

“pehle tum ehl-e-kufr e hind se jung kerogay aur Fatah paogay, phir shaam mei Maryum(AS) kay Betay ka sath do gay”

So I don’t see Pakistan “vanishing”. The designs of the universe been foretold and made by Almighty, not by some dumb humans on earth. Its the getting there part nobody believes(yet). But deep down everyone knows its coming. Its scares them so much they try harder to change things but can’t.

Ye dunia waise he apni muddat puri ker chuki ha, we’re on borrowed time(I call it blessed moments due to our Holy Prophet(pbuh). Endtimes are here. Now things will progress quickly.

 

[Rusty2]

My bad

Pakistanis believe that they are descendants of foreign invaders who ruled over Hindus in India for centuries.

Can you cite that?
I can cite where you incels believe in "Vedic" internet and airplaines.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Future generations will take decades to figure out why Pakistanis chose to be called the descendants of Arabs and gave up their Sindu culture.

I haven't met Pakistanis claiming to be descendants of Arabs apart from specific communities. There are also some communities that claim descent from India. It is not implausible to suggest that modern-day Pakistan saw migration from regions that it neighbors and is in fact proven by history.

gave up their Sindu culture.

Indus river has given humanity the most fertile land on this planet to thrive. People are living there for thousands of years before Islam. Most of that region happens to be in present Pakistan.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Pakistan is primarily comprised of Sindhi, Punjabi, Baloch, Pashtun, Kashmiri cultures. These cultures have existed for a long time and are not dependent on religion.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Look Pakistan will not be the first country to default if it ever happens. We could be in lot worse position, see Afghanistan. Be thankful to great establishment who produce intellects like Bajwas.

Ayub Khan: Refused to start war against India in 1962 with China. Instead decide to do it alone in 1965. Though Pakistan would get nukes from America if needed when someone told him about Indian nuclear program. Very clever genius.

Yahya Khan: Treat bengalis like shits who then become collaborators with Indians in 1971.

Zia: Bring millions of Afghanis who then go on to change demographics of KP and rest of Pakistan along with claiming our land. Smuggling, drugs, bacha bazi, walwar etc things afghans consider as halal business. Not to forget terrorism.

Musharraf: Out of the blue decide to attack India knowing fully well chances of succeeding is next to nill because of power disparity.

Brilliant minds of establishment is our only hope.

 

[TheSolution]

Look Pakistan will not be the first country to default if it ever happens. We could be in lot worse position, see Afghanistan. Be thankful to great establishment who produce intellects like Bajwas.

Ayub Khan: Refused to start war against India in 1962 with China. Instead decide to do it alone in 1965. Though Pakistan would get nukes from America if needed when someone told him about Indian nuclear program. Very clever genius.

Yahya Khan: Treat bengalis like shits who then become collaborators with Indians in 1971.

Zia: Bring millions of Afghanis who then go on to change demographics of KP and rest of Pakistan along with claiming our land. Smuggling, drugs, bacha bazi, walwar etc things afghans consider as halal business. Not to forget terrorism.

Musharraf: Out of the blue decide to attack India knowing fully well chances of succeeding is next to nill because of power disparity.

Brilliant minds of establishment is our only hope.

Why didn't we join China in 1962? Did Uncle Sam threaten us not to?

 

[Turingsage]

There would be a collective sigh of relief.