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The possibility that the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 could have made it to the Andaman Sea, off the coast of the Andaman & Nicobar Islands, could raise questions about the effectiveness of India's air defence systems.


If the flight did enter the Andaman Sea, on way to the Bay of Bengal, Indian air defence radars should have ideally detected it.

The possibility of the aircraft heading into this area came up on Saturday when Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak mentioned it as one of the two possible routes the missing plane took.

According to him, the joint investigation by Malaysian and global agencies indicated a distinct possibility that flight MH370 was near the Andaman Islands.

According to senior Indian Air Force (IAF) officials, India does maintain a radar north of Port Blair in the Andaman Islands. This radar is primarily directed at the Myanmar's Coco Islands, which is believed to serve as a base for Chinese military activity.

However, with a range of about 200 nautical miles, it can detect air movement in the area.

"We use primary radars that can detect any movement in the air. The radar coverage in the Andamans is limited, but capable," a senior air force official told HT on the condition of anonymity since he is not authorised to speak to the media.

Civilian radars used by Air Traffic Controllers across the globe use secondary radars that use data streaming in from transponders fitted on board the aircraft. These radars are programmed to avoid detecting other flying objects but can be picked up by the primary radars that the military uses.

"The radars that we have in the Andaman Islands have a range of about 200 NM, but our shore-based radars usually have limited coverage," former naval chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta told HT.

Mehta, who is also a navy combat pilot, is familiar with the tri-service command capabilities that are present on the Andaman Islands.

"While the Andamans are designated as a Flight Information Region (global earmarked spaces to track aircraft), it is not on the air corridor taken by civilian aircrafts," he said.

"But if anything were to happen in this FIR, it will be our responsibility."

The Boeing 777 is capable of flying non-stop between long distances such as New Delhi and New York and therefore Andamans and the east coast of India has emerged as one of the two possible routes that the aircraft took after leaving Kuala Lumpur.

Incidentally, the Malaysian PM Razak confirmed that the transponder and the communications on board the missing flight had been "deliberately" switched off. This raises concerns about a possible hijacking of MH 370.

If missing jet made it to Andaman Sea, did Indian radars fail to detect it? - Hindustan Times

If true, than this is the serious loophole in Indian defense set-up.
 
Cnn reported there is ways around it, it's not so simple as this article states we do not know the full picture yet
 
Actually, if the reports are true, it's raises serious questions about Indonesia's air defence network, since the plane would have flown directly over their airspace.

It's too early to raise alarm bells over India's preparedness in the region. Especially since we don't know yet if the plane made another turn subsequent in it's flight.
 
AS Indian Navy spokesperson told that radars in A&N are switched off sometimes as it is militarily a safe zone.
 
Air-Defense is also conditioned to look for attack or recon patterns, and are not gonna scramble for every stray blip. Plus most would keep their tracking secret, no need to give all your capabilities away.
 
AS Indian Navy spokesperson told that radars in A&N are switched off sometimes as it is militarily a safe zone.

There have been reports that A&N can be the new Kargil, we have to seriously think about the security of A&N if the plane flown right over it undetected.
 
The big question is even the Malaysian, and Indonesian military radars didn't detect the damn radar flying over their land. So right now the whole thing is a big mess. For the aircraft to fly over Malaysia and Indonesia and not be detected by their military radars is highly unlikely, there too many weird issues in this disappearance.
 
The big question is even the Malaysian, and Indonesian military radars didn't detect the damn radar flying over their land. So right now the whole thing is a big mess. For the aircraft to fly over Malaysia and Indonesia and not be detected by their military radars is highly unlikely, there too many weird issues in this disappearance.

Just by switching off the transponders can a plane become near stealth??
 
There have been reports that A&N can be the new Kargil, we have to seriously think about the security of A&N if the plane flown right over it undetected.

Reason why India is beefing up the security on that Islands.

The reports suggest that the plane might have entered IOR through Malacca straits, But not yet confirmed.
 
There have been reports that A&N can be the new Kargil, we have to seriously think about the security of A&N if the plane flown right over it undetected.

Can't happen, mainly because any nation that wishes to take over the islands will have to send in their amphibious assault ships, which will be detected by the navy or the commercial ships in the region. The Malacca strait is one of the busiest if not the busiest shipping channel in the world, so it would be close to impossible to pass through unnoticed. Then there is also the point that the Indian Navy will just bomb the crap of the Island since the Islands are pretty small and don't have cover to begin with.
 
Reason why India is beefing up the security on that Islands.

The reports suggest that the plane might have entered IOR through Malacca straits, But not yet confirmed.

Let's assume that the plane din't even entered our region, but this quote is interesting................

"The radars that we have in the Andaman Islands have a range of about 200 NM, but our shore-based radars usually have limited coverage," former naval chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta told HT.
 
Just by switching off the transponders can a plane become near stealth??

No, they will be easily detected by flights in the region because the plane would then not know its own route or route of other aircrafts and will most likely accidentally fly into someone else flight path.
 
Just by switching off the transponders can a plane become near stealth??

It's perplexing that it was able to fly undetected by any ground control station or radar just by switching off the transponder. I suspect there is more than meets the eye in this case.
 
Let's assume that the plane din't even entered our region, but this quote is interesting................

I think the Radar range is inadequate since the distance between the Malacca strait entrance and Andaman is close to 920 Nmi.

I think India should deploy X Band Radars.

There is a report related to that

The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Main News

India to acquire ‘x-band’ radarsCan spot a six-inch object from 4,600 km
 
I think the Radar range is inadequate since the distance between the Malacca strait entrance and Andaman is close to 920 Nmi.

I think India should deploy X Band Radars.

There is a report related to that

The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Main News

India to acquire ‘x-band’ radarsCan spot a six-inch object from 4,600 km

Mate, no country ever gives its exact range of radar or the type of radar it has installed, it would be quite foolish for the Navy officer to simply come out and give the range.
 
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