If Israel disappears, others will too

[19887]

hummmm. it does not matter what individual think for israel.. if you want to know the truth then just see the ground realities.. in my opinion there is nothing that can be related with israel regarding war in this world.. this thread shows that either israel is ruling the whole world or israel is super power.. as we know this is not true. basically this thread is blaming on israel that actually israel is responsible for anything happening bad in this world.

it is simple if you impose war against any nation you may have to face the retaliation if not soon but in future because you will be the responsible for spreading hates..
jews/christianity/islam are the reality and their existence in this world is universal truth. we all have to accept to each other practically (verbally alot of countries dont accept israel's existence and here dont need to worry because existence of israel is reality) we really need to accept each other practically if not verbally. otherwise we are going to destroy this world permanently.

the only problem between israel and muslims is palestine, if palestine dont have problem with jews policies regarding palestinian and they are getting their rights then all other muslims will not have problem with jews.

Don't explode the religious sentiment or else the consequences will definitely horrible. jews and muslims should work to each other in order to reduce the tensions, in order to understand to each other. there should not be a space to create hates for each other just accept each other practically.

The world does not work in such a way, and certainly not humanity
There will always be wars, but we must strive to minimize as much as possible
As for the "Israeli-Palestinian" conflict, it will not be resolved by a Palestinian state in Judea and Samaria.
One of the factors that hinder the solution of the problem are those who think that a Palestinian state in Judea and Samaria will end the conflict, and that is currently the world consensus so this conflict will not end soon
But I appreciate your attitude

Israel is not going away.

you have a mistake
It is a matter of time till the State of Israel will collapse from within
The Jews will remain, the State of Israel will not

 

[shahbaz baig]

The world does not work in such a way, and certainly not humanity
There will always be wars, but we must strive to minimize as much as possible
As for the "Israeli-Palestinian" conflict, it will not be resolved by a Palestinian state in Judea and Samaria.
One of the factors that hinder the solution of the problem are those who think that a Palestinian state in Judea and Samaria will end the conflict, and that is currently the world consensus so this conflict will not end soon
But I appreciate your attitude

i think differently. i emphasized on reality and current relation between nations.. i don't deserve any appreciation because if there is no peace, understanding and humanity so no need to accept any appreciation..

the problem is that jews and muslims never create any platform where they can understand to each other. muslims also believe on prophet Moses that is why the land in which you live is spiritual for muslims too. accept our reservations regarding spiritual land then we will surely accept you too. why not share your land with muslims too? no need to argue with anyone if you are not willing to share then definitely there will be wars

 

[19887]

i think differently. i emphasized on reality and current relation between nations.. i don't deserve any appreciation because if there is no peace, understanding and humanity so no need to accept any appreciation..

the problem is that jews and muslims never create any platform where they can understand to each other. muslims also believe on prophet Moses that is why the land in which you live is spiritual for muslims too. accept our reservations regarding spiritual land then we will surely accept you too. why not share your land with muslims too? no need to argue with anyone if you are not willing to share then definitely there will be wars

There is no spiritual problem with Muslims, the opposite
According to the Jewish spirit, Muslims believe in one God and pray for Him, as it should be
Muslims and anyone else can have holy places in Israel and can visit them and pray there, unless it conflicts with Judaism, of course
But the Land of Israel can not be divided, or one group will control all of it or there will be wars

 

[shahbaz baig]

There is no spiritual problem with Muslims, the opposite
According to the Jewish spirit, Muslims believe in one God and pray for Him, as it should be
Muslims and anyone else can have holy places in Israel and can visit them and pray there, unless it conflicts with Judaism, of course
But the Land of Israel can not be divided, or one group will control all of it or there will be wars

infect today muslims accept to israel and jerusalem as 3rd spiritual land.. it is all about spiritual land for muslims. but israel dont let pray to muslims freely within israel's territory and it's hurt alot of muslims. you tease muslims their, actually you are giving a reason to fight back.. that is why some of muslims want separate land because of some conflict. why not deal with muslim countries and resolve the reservations of muslims ? pilgrimage for muslims into jerusalem is extremely hard due to israel's policies. but to be honest muslims don't want entire israel or holds, muslims just want to freely move within the holy land of israel. and you don't allow muslims to freely move .(alot of restrictions that only create hates i.e age limit) that is why israel's jewish is not allowed in many muslim countries.

Conflict in Israel and Palestine

What are people fighting for in Jerusalem

one more thing do you believe whatever is written in this thread about the role of israel in entire world, is absolutely correct or not?

 

[T-Rex]

Is he scummy because he have different opinion?
Jews don't like assimilation, there are not many Jews, it's like a second Holocaust for us.
In Israel they are all chatting, talking and doing nothing and then thinking and then doing something else,
If they sprayed "GAS THE ARABS" you can be confident and believe they will not do it
Of course there are extremists in Israel of all kinds, as in any other country
There is no ethnic cleansing in Israel, neither in Gaza nor in Judea and Samaria
If an Arab woman married a Jewish man, the Arabs would slaughter her
It is enough that she will only go out with a Jew, there is no one law for the Arabs and one for the Jews.
"Arabs are raised to hate Jews?" Yes!
https://unitedwithisrael.org/watch-the-un-perpetuates-anti-semitism-in-palestinian-schools/
https://ivarfjeld.com/2012/10/05/muslims-are-raised-to-hate-jews-and-america/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/stab-jew-taught-palestinian-children-article-1.2401446

etc.......

Zionist thugs teach their children to hate and murder Palestinians.

 

[shahbaz baig]

Zionist thugs teach their children to hate and murder Palestinians.
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ooh come on man now we should think above then this. we also did it in past. better to accept each other with weakness and eradicate hates, spread peace, love and humanity.. if jews want their land what's wrong in it? they deserve land.. but we should have freely access to our 3rd holy spiritual land Israel.

 

[19887]

infect today muslims accept to israel and jerusalem as 3rd spiritual land.. it is all about spiritual land for muslims. but israel dont let pray to muslims freely within israel's territory and it's hurt alot of muslims. you tease muslims their, actually you are giving a reason to fight back.. that is why some of muslims want separate land because of some conflict. why not deal with muslim countries and resolve the reservations of muslims ? pilgrimage for muslims into jerusalem is extremely hard due to israel's policies. but to be honest muslims don't want entire israel or holds, muslims just want to freely move within the holy land of israel. and you don't allow muslims to freely move .(alot of restrictions that only create hates i.e age limit) that is why israel's jewish is not allowed in many muslim countries.

Conflict in Israel and Palestine

What are people fighting for in Jerusalem

one more thing do you believe whatever is written in this thread about the role of israel in entire world, is absolutely correct or not?

You know that there is terror and war and it is impossible to open all the borders and all the roads
We tried, people died
Do you know that Israel prevents Jews from going to the holiest place in Judaism, the Temple Mount?
Perhaps you as a Muslim speak only of holy places
There are many Muslims in the Middle East talking about the fact that according to Islam, Israel has no right to exist and that the Jewish people can only live as a dimmis under the rule of Islam
Don't bring me videos of dumb or unrelated Americans, they have no idea what's going on here
As for the last question, Israel is a small country. On the global level, no one is referring to Israel at all. Israel's part of the world is much smaller than you think
Even in the Middle East alone, Israel does not play such a large and important role

Zionist thugs teach their children to hate and murder Palestinians.
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Wow, there's an exhibition and kids came to enjoy it
They're sure murderers.
Come on, Israel is a militaristic state, there are exhibitions of weapons and everyone is excited about it
No one cares about Arabs, everyone cares about the role they play in the army when they grow up, everyone wants to take part in defending the country or the Jewish people, which is something we could not do in the last 1900 years
Although I personally do not support children walking around in the vicinity of weapons, because they are idiots, they still do not understand anything
Here are your friends, look

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

did israel stopped from killing arabs??
Israel started most of wars.
Israel currently is not allowing any food to palestinians in ghaza.
Israel attacked syria many times.
Israel executed arabs in covert operations, even innocent scientists with no link to military.
Israel helped ISIS.
Wars against iraq were fought for israel and US had made it clear.
End of israel will ensure peace in the region.

It won't have powerful friends for too long. History shows that superpowers do change. and arabs won't remain weaker forever. Even with no technology they would out gun Israel, the day US becomes russia and China becomes US.

You know that there is terror and war and it is impossible to open all the borders and all the roads
We tried, people died
Do you know that Israel prevents Jews from going to the holiest place in Judaism, the Temple Mount?
Perhaps you as a Muslim speak only of holy places
There are many Muslims in the Middle East talking about the fact that according to Islam, Israel has no right to exist and that the Jewish people can only live as a dimmis under the rule of Islam
Don't bring me videos of dumb or unrelated Americans, they have no idea what's going on here
As for the last question, Israel is a small country. On the global level, no one is referring to Israel at all. Israel's part of the world is much smaller than you think
Even in the Middle East alone, Israel does not play such a large and important role


Wow, there's an exhibition and kids came to enjoy it
They're sure murderers.
Come on, Israel is a militaristic state, there are exhibitions of weapons and everyone is excited about it
No one cares about Arabs, everyone cares about the role they play in the army when they grow up, everyone wants to take part in defending the country or the Jewish people, which is something we could not do in the last 1900 years
Although I personally do not support children walking around in the vicinity of weapons, because they are idiots, they still do not understand anything
Here are your friends, look

 

[19887]

did israel stopped from killing arabs??

Israel has never intentionally killed Arabs because they are Arabs
And the Arabs who fight in Israel know that they risk death.

Israel started most of wars.

Israel has never been the aggressive side
It is true that in the Six-Day War, for example, Israel fired first
But always as a response to the crossing of a red line from the enemy.

Israel currently is not allowing any food to palestinians in ghaza.

Every day, Israel puts tons of food, medicine and equipment into Gaza
In addition, it also pumps electricity and gas to Gaza.

Israel executed arabs in covert operations, even innocent scientists with no link to military.

Israel is assassinating terrorists,
Or those related to terrorism.
With the exception of exceptional cases, for example, an Iranian scientist who builds nuclear weapons
This is called self-defense.

Israel attacked syria many times.

Since the cease-fire between Israel and Syria many, many years ago
Israel attacked the Syrian nuclear reactor and Iranian arms shipments destined for Hezbollah.
In addition, from time to time there is a leak of firing from Syrian territory into Israeli territory following the war. In response, Israel attacks the Syrian army.

Israel helped ISIS.

Israel really does not support Isis.
Israel occasionally attacks isis in southern Syria and Sinai.

Wars against iraq were fought for israel and US had made it clear.

The two wars of the Americans in Iraq have nothing to do with Israel.
If so, then the opposite, because of the Americans, the Iraqis attacked Israel with Scud missiles
Israel does not care about Iraq now or in the past, except, of course, nuclear weapons
Israel took care of itself in the Iraqi reactor long before the Americans arrived.

End of israel will ensure peace in the region.

The war in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya has nothing to do with Israel
The war in Yemen in the 1960s had no connection to Israel
The civil war in Lebanon had no connection to Israel
The Iran War Iraq had no connection to Israel
With or without Israel, everyone in the Middle East will continue to kill each other
You live in Pakistan, what do you understand?

It won't have powerful friends for too long. History shows that superpowers do change. and arabs won't remain weaker forever. Even with no technology they would out gun Israel, the day US becomes russia and China becomes US.

At the beginning of the twentieth century we had the British
In the 1940s we had the Soviets
In the 1950s-60 we had the French
In the 1970s and until today there are the Americans
We know how to be dynamic.

What is your message about the pictures?
That kids are excited about weapons?
Here, children do not make a display of weapons to kill others

 

[shahbaz baig]

israeli thought is that muslims are the biggest problem.
muslims thought is that israelis are the biggest problem.

the two major religion (perhaps alot of things similar ) are blaming to each other.

but no one here is talking about the collaboration and deal of understanding.
thank God our Govts dont work as these two moron human think for each other..

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

At the beginning of the twentieth century we had the British
In the 1940s we had the Soviets
In the 1950s-60 we had the French
In the 1970s and until today there are the Americans
We know how to be dynamic.

I donot want to start debate over previous discussion.
But if all great powers were your friends than i think your papa, grand papa may be lying to you about holocaust.
Afterall you are very dynamic.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

not really

 

[Reichsmarschall]

The Arabs in Israel are citizens with equal rights for all intents and purposes.

Bullshit

 

[19887]

I donot want to start debate over previous discussion.
But if all great powers were your friends than i think your papa, grand papa may be lying to you about holocaust.
Afterall you are very dynamic.

The superpowers were with the State of Israel, and the Jewish community in the Land of Israel and not with the Jews in Europe.
The Holocaust can't be denied.

 

[HeinzG]

The superpowers were with the State of Israel, and the Jewish community in the Land of Israel and not with the Jews in Europe.
The Holocaust can't be denied.

There is a problem I wanted to ask from a jew.

Why did the world Jewish council waged war against Germany in 1933?