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If I Got The Job To Clean Up Terrorist In Pakistan:

It was not America's invention. It was Gen Zia and ISI's idea to arm the wackos instead of secular nationalist parties. America went along with Gen Zia who was the boss
Hi,

BS from you as always, US funded supported and trained these Mujahideen. Watch what Hillary says
 
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Hi,

There is a reasoning for the cleanup in this manner----. The executions of the top brass or anyone need to be quick---fast at a lightening speed---.

These will not be revenge killings----these executions of crimes against the state---fast and expeditious---. You stole the money from the nation---you and those who you stole it for---like the family members will all pay for it with their lives---.

It turned badly for Syria and Libya is that the army was with the presidents-----not in Pakistan---.

Pak army is only holding back out of fear of sanctions----. Zardari and Nawaz know that---that is why they did what they did----.

The Maulvi Azaz would be neutraloized by the take over of the red mosque---which would immediately be raised to the ground---because it was built on illegal property----..

The first 10 days to 2 weeks will be dedicated tot he executions of the politicians---. That is where the mindset of the public would change and they would realize that something good is happening----.

This will be a stair step progression---do what the masses want---soften up their stance----once you have them in the palm of your hands----then go after madrassah's---religioius fanatic groups---and parties----.

The reason for the quick assault is that----my life as the leader would only last 90 days to a 180 days---before someone would assasinate me----so speed is what is needed to achieve my goals.

Once the basic goals are met----it would give good directions for the nation for another 50 to a 100 years.

There will be other political changes I would want to devise----but as I am about to quit this board-----and go elsewhere---I may not post here---but then I might----depends on my mood---.

Remember---in california---once divorce is filed----the court gives you 6 months date to appear for the final decision---.

You did not mention the rich people in your country who don't pay taxes.
 
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Usury and interest both are haram and islam ...

Hi,

No---they are not---usury is haram----and not only in islam----it was haram even before that---even in Roman times---usury was declared haram----.

Even in the U S ----usury was haram till the early 90's---. I know that because I have been in auto finance for many a years----. Then some banks funded the campaigns of some congressmen and senators and now there is not limit on interest that can be charged---.

In a similiar manner 3 Talaq is not a muslim tradition---it was a Roman tradition----.

Just don't be blinded by zeal in your heart for your religion---.

You did not mention the rich people in your country who don't pay taxes.

Pappy,

They are not a cancer----they are just avoiding the whip----. See---corruption is Cancerous---it has to be eradicated with those who practice it---taxes can be extracted---.

After my revolution---these people would be running over everyone else to pay their taxes---they would want to jump ahead of the line.
 
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No---they are not---usury is haram----and not only in islam----it was haram even before that---even in Roman times---usury was declared haram----.
And your source of claim that Islam treated Usury and commercial interest differently ? In Quran and sahih hadith there is no separate concept of usuary and interest ,,, I don't know from where you guys created this concept,,,
 
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And your source of claim that Islam treated Usury and commercial interest differently ? In Quran and sahih hadith there is no separate concept of usuary and interest ,,, I don't know from where you guys created this concept,,,

Hi,

Because usury was the practice of the time and not simple interest---that is why it is not mentioned----.

But------again don't make it islamic----as I stated---romans had laws that abolished usury as well---so the ban on usury is not quarnic by default---.

It is bad---that is why Qura'an bans it---. If simple and plain interest was bad---it wuld be described seprately as such.
 
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Hi,

If today---I got the job to clean up pakistan of terrorists---

1. the first order of action would be to declare a state of emergency in the country

2. arrest the top 100 members of PPPP and Zardari and their families

3. arrest the top 100 members of PMLN and their families

4. Mullah Diesel and his cohorts

5. Head of Jamat a islami and his cohorts

6. Police officers involved with the shooting of Sri Lanka team

7. Some of the secretaries of stae

8. some of the judges---high court---supreme court---

9. Patwaris

Confisctae their properties----hang them in public---hang their adult sons and daughters and all in the family that benefitted with graft and theft of the national funds---.

Now that I have the attention of the nation---a possibly a nationla following---now I will direct my attention to Lal Masjid and other mosques like that.

With lightening strikes---all these madrassha's will betaken over by force---all students over the age of 16 teachers and leaders and and wives will be executed at the spot----the building raised to the ground----the minor children taken into state protection and sent to state owned political correction camps----.

All the politicians with fake degrees who intentionally and knowingly participated will meet the same fate.

General Qazi----the man who imported chinese diesel engine that were 9 " wider than the engines that were needed and then had stations modified for those engines which later failed---him and all members of his family will have 9" chopped of their both hands and both feet and all properties confiscated---.

A system of reporting any suspicious activity to police will be set up---and a substantial reward given for arrests of criminals---. Any police officer detaining and torturing those reporting suspicioius activity will be tried for treason against the state and summarily executed in 24 hours of the action---all his properties confiscated and families expelled.

Every community will participate in reporting any suspicious activity---to a local reporting center in the area----any villages or small communities will be looking after the railway ytracks and roads and bridges and will be reporting any activities---.

Child moletsation---gang rape----sodomy---blackmail---taking nude pictures and videos for any use will be charged with summary executions.

Marriage of minors to adults----wani---decisions by tribal leaders for retaliatory rape will be charged with spreading terror against the citizens of the state----and thus will be executed summarily---their properties and lands confiscated by the state----.

Acid attack criminals will be dipped ion acid baths----.

Anyone who has a beard---( beard is a reflection of sunnat a Rasool ) and commits a crime----the crime will be considered a major crime and thus punishable by death---.

Blasphemy law will be abolished at that time which would be around 30---60 days into the process----rights of the minorities restored----any community found to participate in inciting and acting against the minorities will be charged for creating unrest in the state----of starting a terrorist activity against the citizen of the state and thus charged accordingly----be hanged to death----.

Any community found to be involved in loot and plunder---in case of a bus accident---a train accident---a car accident---will be summarily charged with highway robbery---and hanged.

The land mafia will all be arrested----all their family members be arrested---all properties confiscated---all adult family members executed by the state---and minors sent to state political correctness training camps----.

The police force will start to be inducted from college graduates----. The title will start as police officers.

The system will be set up same as in the united states. There will be no direct recruitment of assistan superintendant police---or superintendant police---.

The police force will have the mayor of the city as the boss---. A police officer will not be transferred from his or hers place of employment for the life of his or hers tenure----unless they want to do it on their own---.

The judiciary will have their own police force-----like the U S marshalls----that could carry out the orders of the judiciary.

After 3 months----now thatthe public is feeling good and thinks that there is light at the end of the tunnel---some other changes will be brought out----Shalwar kameez will be banned as a work place uniform---only trouser and shirt will be the work attire----.

Right from day one----there will 2 breaks during the work shift---lunch break and another 10 minute break----there will be no tea breaks or no cigarette breaks---.

Judges will listen to a case---and there will be no extensions---. No doctprs certificate will be allowed---only and unless a person is on the death bed----a fake certifictae by the doctor will be charged and a sabotage against the workings of state---thus charged as treason---all properties confiscated and the doctor executed summarily.

The judges will decide the case on the the merit---and NOT ON SWEARING ON A QUR'AN. DNA---blood samples and other scientific techniques will be used by default---.

In any govt office or facilitiy----there will be a prson present at all times of business who can sign any document---an excuse of the boss is not available will not work---.

Anyone stealing from railways---military or other govt offices and resources will be charged with sabotage---they will have their properties confiscated and will be executed.

All officers of the sate and personals and businessmen---their properties will be assessed according to their incomes---and they will be be charged with corruption and theft if they cannot explain the disparity in their wealth and income----thus facing capital punishment for themselves and properties taken away by the state---.

There will be no street protest by govt employees---no doctors protests---no protests and blockage of streets or highways---there will be a reporting center in a city---village---and multiple centers according to the size of the location---where you could file a complain and the complaint would be handled in an expedited manner.

Hospitals will start to work like as if they are military installations---the doctors and pother staff will be available at all times and so will the medicines----. The doctors or staff when called for emergency would run to their required positions----no bad attitude by any staff either in a hospital or any other public office will be acceptable.

In about a 3 months time period----after all the backlog of executions and cleanup has been performed---the public will be looking at the state with new mindset----they will be more willing and capable in assisting the state to fight terrorism because now they would know that the state is theirs----so as there is more co-operation between the state and its citizens---the public will take ownership of the state and what is happening in the state.

Those who will lie on the judiciary stand---swear wrongly on the quran or otherwise---will be punished accordingly----for minor offences---their tongues would be cut out---for major offences---their tongues will be cut out---their hand will be cut out---for intentional wrong testimony in death sentence cases---they will be executed and their properties confiscated.

Cont.

It is not going to happen because in our part of the world people can be bought and you will end up making enemies only.
Your frustration is valid but mass arrests and execution without due process will result in revolt against you.
 
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It is not going to happen because in our part of the world people can be bought and you will end up making enemies only.
Your frustration is valid but mass arrests and execution without due process will result in revolt against you.

Hi,

Those who can buy and sell will be taken out---. Blitzkreig----a blitzerbleiter----500 a day will clear up a lots of garbage in 3 days.

there will be no buying and selling----because their families will be accompanying them to the pedastal as well---other than minors who will be taken as wards od state---and political correctness camps will welcome them with open arms---.

Trust me please---I know my public better than most of you---. They never stood up for Zulfiqar Bhutto---they ain't gonna stand for these criminals.
 
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Hi,

If today---I got the job to clean up pakistan of terrorists---

1. the first order of action would be to declare a state of emergency in the country

2. arrest the top 100 members of PPPP and Zardari and their families

3. arrest the top 100 members of PMLN and their families

4. Mullah Diesel and his cohorts

5. Head of Jamat a islami and his cohorts

6. Police officers involved with the shooting of Sri Lanka team

7. Some of the secretaries of stae

8. some of the judges---high court---supreme court---

9. Patwaris

Confisctae their properties----hang them in public---hang their adult sons and daughters and all in the family that benefitted with graft and theft of the national funds---.

Now that I have the attention of the nation---a possibly a nationla following---now I will direct my attention to Lal Masjid and other mosques like that.

With lightening strikes---all these madrassha's will betaken over by force---all students over the age of 16 teachers and leaders and and wives will be executed at the spot----the building raised to the ground----the minor children taken into state protection and sent to state owned political correction camps----.

All the politicians with fake degrees who intentionally and knowingly participated will meet the same fate.

General Qazi----the man who imported chinese diesel engine that were 9 " wider than the engines that were needed and then had stations modified for those engines which later failed---him and all members of his family will have 9" chopped of their both hands and both feet and all properties confiscated---.

A system of reporting any suspicious activity to police will be set up---and a substantial reward given for arrests of criminals---. Any police officer detaining and torturing those reporting suspicioius activity will be tried for treason against the state and summarily executed in 24 hours of the action---all his properties confiscated and families expelled.

Every community will participate in reporting any suspicious activity---to a local reporting center in the area----any villages or small communities will be looking after the railway ytracks and roads and bridges and will be reporting any activities---.

Child moletsation---gang rape----sodomy---blackmail---taking nude pictures and videos for any use will be charged with summary executions.

Marriage of minors to adults----wani---decisions by tribal leaders for retaliatory rape will be charged with spreading terror against the citizens of the state----and thus will be executed summarily---their properties and lands confiscated by the state----.

Acid attack criminals will be dipped ion acid baths----.

Anyone who has a beard---( beard is a reflection of sunnat a Rasool ) and commits a crime----the crime will be considered a major crime and thus punishable by death---.

Blasphemy law will be abolished at that time which would be around 30---60 days into the process----rights of the minorities restored----any community found to participate in inciting and acting against the minorities will be charged for creating unrest in the state----of starting a terrorist activity against the citizen of the state and thus charged accordingly----be hanged to death----.

Any community found to be involved in loot and plunder---in case of a bus accident---a train accident---a car accident---will be summarily charged with highway robbery---and hanged.

The land mafia will all be arrested----all their family members be arrested---all properties confiscated---all adult family members executed by the state---and minors sent to state political correctness training camps----.

The police force will start to be inducted from college graduates----. The title will start as police officers.

The system will be set up same as in the united states. There will be no direct recruitment of assistan superintendant police---or superintendant police---.

The police force will have the mayor of the city as the boss---. A police officer will not be transferred from his or hers place of employment for the life of his or hers tenure----unless they want to do it on their own---.

The judiciary will have their own police force-----like the U S marshalls----that could carry out the orders of the judiciary.

After 3 months----now thatthe public is feeling good and thinks that there is light at the end of the tunnel---some other changes will be brought out----Shalwar kameez will be banned as a work place uniform---only trouser and shirt will be the work attire----.

Right from day one----there will 2 breaks during the work shift---lunch break and another 10 minute break----there will be no tea breaks or no cigarette breaks---.

Judges will listen to a case---and there will be no extensions---. No doctprs certificate will be allowed---only and unless a person is on the death bed----a fake certifictae by the doctor will be charged and a sabotage against the workings of state---thus charged as treason---all properties confiscated and the doctor executed summarily.

The judges will decide the case on the the merit---and NOT ON SWEARING ON A QUR'AN. DNA---blood samples and other scientific techniques will be used by default---.

In any govt office or facilitiy----there will be a prson present at all times of business who can sign any document---an excuse of the boss is not available will not work---.

Anyone stealing from railways---military or other govt offices and resources will be charged with sabotage---they will have their properties confiscated and will be executed.

All officers of the sate and personals and businessmen---their properties will be assessed according to their incomes---and they will be be charged with corruption and theft if they cannot explain the disparity in their wealth and income----thus facing capital punishment for themselves and properties taken away by the state---.

There will be no street protest by govt employees---no doctors protests---no protests and blockage of streets or highways---there will be a reporting center in a city---village---and multiple centers according to the size of the location---where you could file a complain and the complaint would be handled in an expedited manner.

Hospitals will start to work like as if they are military installations---the doctors and pother staff will be available at all times and so will the medicines----. The doctors or staff when called for emergency would run to their required positions----no bad attitude by any staff either in a hospital or any other public office will be acceptable.

In about a 3 months time period----after all the backlog of executions and cleanup has been performed---the public will be looking at the state with new mindset----they will be more willing and capable in assisting the state to fight terrorism because now they would know that the state is theirs----so as there is more co-operation between the state and its citizens---the public will take ownership of the state and what is happening in the state.

Those who will lie on the judiciary stand---swear wrongly on the quran or otherwise---will be punished accordingly----for minor offences---their tongues would be cut out---for major offences---their tongues will be cut out---their hand will be cut out---for intentional wrong testimony in death sentence cases---they will be executed and their properties confiscated.

Cont.

Dec 4, 2015#40

@Sinopakfriend

Hi,

You asked for the Mao moment---enjoy the read. MK
 
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  1. Demolish al bazari masajid, madrasas and tombs...
  2. Annex all money collected on religious grounds through donations..
 
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Add some corrupt lawyers, judges, industrialist, TV anchors owners of news groups. but it sud not stop right there so sud have form committee from their community to keep an eye on organization we cant clean up and then let it lose.
we need high ambitious people with Managment skill who will manage the system after clean up, we sud invest on Education and always worry about creating new jobs..
Insha'Allah khair, lets hang these corrupt people with the families who are proud of their "harami ki kamai" wealth.
 
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Surat Nuh from Quran:


Begining with the name of Allah al-Rahmaan and al-Raheem

1. We sent Noah to his People (with the Command): "Do thou warn thy People before there comes to them a grievous Penalty."

2. He said: "O my People! I am to you a Warner, clear and open:

3. "That ye should worship Allah, fear Him and obey me:

4. "So He may forgive you your sins and give you respite for a stated Term: for when the Term given by Allah is accomplished, it cannot be put forward: if ye only knew."

5. He said: "O my Lord! I have called to my People night and day:

6. "But my call only increases (their) flight (from the Right).

7. "And every time I have called to them, that Thou mightest forgive them, they have (only) thrust their fingers into their ears, covered themselves up with their garments, grown obstinate, and given themselves up to arrogance.

8. "So I have called to them aloud;

9. "Further I have spoken to them in public and secretly in private,

10. "Saying, 'Ask forgiveness from your Lord; for He is Oft-Forgiving;

11. "'He will send rain to you in abundance;

12. "'Give you increase in wealth and sons; and bestow on you gardens and bestow on you rivers (of flowing water).

13. "'What is the matter with you, that ye place not your hope for kindness and long-suffering in Allah,-

14. "'Seeing that it is He that has created you in diverse stages?

15. "'See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another,

16. "'And made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a (Glorious) Lamp?

17. "'And Allah has produced you from the earth growing (gradually),

18. "'And in the End He will return you into the (earth), and raise you forth (again at the Resurrection)?

19. "'And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out),

20. "'That ye may go about therein, in spacious roads.'"

21. Noah said: "O my Lord! They have disobeyed me, but they follow (men) whose wealth and children give them no increase but only Loss.

22. "And they have devised a tremendous Plot.

23. "And they have said (to each other), 'Abandon not your gods: Abandon neither Wadd nor Suwa', neither Yaguth nor Ya'uq, nor Nasr';-

24. "They have already misled many; and grant Thou no increase to the wrong- doers but in straying (from their mark)."

25. Because of their sins they were drowned (in the flood), and were made to enter the Fire (of Punishment): and they found- in lieu of Allah. none to help them.

26. And Noah, said: "O my Lord! Leave not of the Unbelievers, a single one on earth!

27. "For, if Thou dost leave (any of) them, they will but mislead Thy devotees, and they will breed none but wicked ungrateful ones.

28. "O my Lord! Forgive me, my parents, all who enter my house in Faith, and (all) believing men and believing women: and to the wrong-doers grant You no increase but in destruction!"
 
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Hi,

If today---I got the job to clean up pakistan of terrorists---

1. the first order of action would be to declare a state of emergency in the country

2. arrest the top 100 members of PPPP and Zardari and their families

3. arrest the top 100 members of PMLN and their families

4. Mullah Diesel and his cohorts

5. Head of Jamat a islami and his cohorts

6. Police officers involved with the shooting of Sri Lanka team

7. Some of the secretaries of stae

8. some of the judges---high court---supreme court---

9. Patwaris

Confisctae their properties----hang them in public---hang their adult sons and daughters and all in the family that benefitted with graft and theft of the national funds---.

Now that I have the attention of the nation---a possibly a nationla following---now I will direct my attention to Lal Masjid and other mosques like that.

With lightening strikes---all these madrassha's will betaken over by force---all students over the age of 16 teachers and leaders and and wives will be executed at the spot----the building raised to the ground----the minor children taken into state protection and sent to state owned political correction camps----.

All the politicians with fake degrees who intentionally and knowingly participated will meet the same fate.

General Qazi----the man who imported chinese diesel engine that were 9 " wider than the engines that were needed and then had stations modified for those engines which later failed---him and all members of his family will have 9" chopped of their both hands and both feet and all properties confiscated---.

A system of reporting any suspicious activity to police will be set up---and a substantial reward given for arrests of criminals---. Any police officer detaining and torturing those reporting suspicioius activity will be tried for treason against the state and summarily executed in 24 hours of the action---all his properties confiscated and families expelled.

Every community will participate in reporting any suspicious activity---to a local reporting center in the area----any villages or small communities will be looking after the railway ytracks and roads and bridges and will be reporting any activities---.

Child moletsation---gang rape----sodomy---blackmail---taking nude pictures and videos for any use will be charged with summary executions.

Marriage of minors to adults----wani---decisions by tribal leaders for retaliatory rape will be charged with spreading terror against the citizens of the state----and thus will be executed summarily---their properties and lands confiscated by the state----.

Acid attack criminals will be dipped ion acid baths----.

Anyone who has a beard---( beard is a reflection of sunnat a Rasool ) and commits a crime----the crime will be considered a major crime and thus punishable by death---.

Blasphemy law will be abolished at that time which would be around 30---60 days into the process----rights of the minorities restored----any community found to participate in inciting and acting against the minorities will be charged for creating unrest in the state----of starting a terrorist activity against the citizen of the state and thus charged accordingly----be hanged to death----.

Any community found to be involved in loot and plunder---in case of a bus accident---a train accident---a car accident---will be summarily charged with highway robbery---and hanged.

The land mafia will all be arrested----all their family members be arrested---all properties confiscated---all adult family members executed by the state---and minors sent to state political correctness training camps----.

The police force will start to be inducted from college graduates----. The title will start as police officers.

The system will be set up same as in the united states. There will be no direct recruitment of assistan superintendant police---or superintendant police---.

The police force will have the mayor of the city as the boss---. A police officer will not be transferred from his or hers place of employment for the life of his or hers tenure----unless they want to do it on their own---.

The judiciary will have their own police force-----like the U S marshalls----that could carry out the orders of the judiciary.

After 3 months----now thatthe public is feeling good and thinks that there is light at the end of the tunnel---some other changes will be brought out----Shalwar kameez will be banned as a work place uniform---only trouser and shirt will be the work attire----.

Right from day one----there will 2 breaks during the work shift---lunch break and another 10 minute break----there will be no tea breaks or no cigarette breaks---.

Judges will listen to a case---and there will be no extensions---. No doctprs certificate will be allowed---only and unless a person is on the death bed----a fake certifictae by the doctor will be charged and a sabotage against the workings of state---thus charged as treason---all properties confiscated and the doctor executed summarily.

The judges will decide the case on the the merit---and NOT ON SWEARING ON A QUR'AN. DNA---blood samples and other scientific techniques will be used by default---.

In any govt office or facilitiy----there will be a prson present at all times of business who can sign any document---an excuse of the boss is not available will not work---.

Anyone stealing from railways---military or other govt offices and resources will be charged with sabotage---they will have their properties confiscated and will be executed.

All officers of the sate and personals and businessmen---their properties will be assessed according to their incomes---and they will be be charged with corruption and theft if they cannot explain the disparity in their wealth and income----thus facing capital punishment for themselves and properties taken away by the state---.

There will be no street protest by govt employees---no doctors protests---no protests and blockage of streets or highways---there will be a reporting center in a city---village---and multiple centers according to the size of the location---where you could file a complain and the complaint would be handled in an expedited manner.

Hospitals will start to work like as if they are military installations---the doctors and pother staff will be available at all times and so will the medicines----. The doctors or staff when called for emergency would run to their required positions----no bad attitude by any staff either in a hospital or any other public office will be acceptable.

In about a 3 months time period----after all the backlog of executions and cleanup has been performed---the public will be looking at the state with new mindset----they will be more willing and capable in assisting the state to fight terrorism because now they would know that the state is theirs----so as there is more co-operation between the state and its citizens---the public will take ownership of the state and what is happening in the state.

Those who will lie on the judiciary stand---swear wrongly on the quran or otherwise---will be punished accordingly----for minor offences---their tongues would be cut out---for major offences---their tongues will be cut out---their hand will be cut out---for intentional wrong testimony in death sentence cases---they will be executed and their properties confiscated.

Cont.
It just shows that you are not mentally stable and you need a some help.
Majority of these things are BS as you won't be the PM
 
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Dec 4, 2015#40

@Sinopakfriend

Hi,

You asked for the Mao moment---enjoy the read. MK
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Dear MK,

Viva La Revolución!


Certainly, it is one way to clean up the mess gathered over last 4 or 5 decades. Sure.

However, the question arises : Who will do all these things? You would need at least a 10 million strong support base.


Young Turks were not only idealogical but also very well organised.

Do Young Paks have a National Idealogy apart from religion...? Which will bring you back to square one again..

Are Young Paks organised enough? Do they have a coherent National Focus/Dream?

Since, you (Pak) live in a part of the world which is rather messy and you have a delusional hegemon right next door, who will like nothing more than profit from such a situation....how/who is going to take care of that?

A National of about 200 million held back and backward by not more than a few hundred.... job can be much easy really.


Creative Destruction only works when there is a Design for Directed Evolution the Day After.


I am certain you and other Pak Friends have thought through about the Day After.

At least the dialouge here at PDF has started..which is good thing.

I shall remain a bemused observer of such a dialouge.


Best,

SPF
 
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