If Arab spring didn't happen in December 2010, what would Syria be like today?

[Assadynasty]

One of the most prosperous in the Middle East yes? The western imperialists don't want to see their ex colonies prosperous. They say, look, this is what you get for being free from our empires.

 

[Assadynasty]

@500 @C130 @Dr.Thrax @Falcon29

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Syria was never the most prosperous nor weakest but it was stable once you got over the border , people went there for vacation and enjoy the culture and atmosphere

Arab spring did not bring the civil war , it was a external funded operation which supplied weapons to certain paid forces in return for promise of ruling Syrian territory

Both Libya / Syria had militaries that did not agree with international player's demands to go against Russia

• Arab Spring only occurred in Tunisia / Egypt , to some extent happened in USA with some demonstration in capitol hill (By None Arabs)

 

[Indos]

The outcome has already been predicted before

The revolution exist because of the split in the military, not like in Egypt

Every changing moment always deliver high risk, for Indonesian case there was a suspected military split as well. If Soeharto insist to keep the power, Indonesia will likely be different Today.

1998 riots in Indonesia is actually seen as something that is created.and planned.

 

[Assadynasty]

Syria was never the most prosperous nor weakest but it was stable once you got over the border , people went there for vacation and enjoy the culture and atmosphere

Syria has the ME's 4th biggest cancer hospital Kindi, free housing all made of concrete not like western paper houses, free education, free health care, women have education and have work and involved in politics for example VP is a woman. ME monarchies afraid their people want to be like Syria so they try to make Syria into a monarchy.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

As I stated your nation was attacked (Proxy war) , from historic stand point your own people would be blamed but the agenda would be of foreign nations against Syria

• Weapon supply to rebels
• No fly zones

All illegal acts to weaken established government and promote Terrorism (supported groups)


Syrian children will be eventually brained washed to study stuff that the destruction was mainly due to ISIS only forgetting the role of weapon supplier groups and foreign hands

Infact the effort is already visible that blames peaceful anti government demonstrations "Arab Spring" to militant movement funded by outside(wiki , fake sites etc)

Libya/Syria destruction was only for a Military purpose , to help establish future bases against Russia

Arab spring was a movement by people to develop better economic conditions in Tunisia / Egypt and it inspired anti corruption movement in Election in Pakistan as well but there was no
"Militancy" because no outside force provided weapons

 

[Indos]

Dictator who insist his power despite popular resistance from its own people

Dictator that understand that this is the time for his nation to start democracy

Soeharto resign

Natural Death with respect

 

[Assadynasty]

Dictator who insist his power despite popular resistance from its own people

Let's put it this way. If some American civilians go on streets demanding the US president step down, will he do so? Heck no. No president steps down because of some rally.

 

[fitpOsitive]

One of the most prosperous in the Middle East yes? The western imperialists don't want to see their ex colonies prosperous. They say, look, this is what you get for being free from our empires.

So you still convinced it was Arab Spring? or Spring under Arabs by Israel to massively expand her territory into arab lands ?

 

[Indos]

Let's put it this way. If some American civilians go on streets demanding the US president step down, will he do so? Heck no. No president steps down because of some rally.

Nope, I know what it is like during that moment. It was not just a demonstration.

The riots that leads Soeharto to resign, since now he knows that many people want him to step down.

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The difference between Arab spring and Indonesia Reformation is that in Indonesia we tried not to include the mass. Only intellectuals and University students who do the rally. It is nothing compare to Syrian/Egyptian/Libyan demonstration since you include the mass, regardless of that small demonstration Soeharto still resign.

University students who occupy parliament building

Police and a university student.

Better Assad to resign now, maybe Syrian people will forgive him.

 

[libertad]

Dictator who insist his power despite popular resistance from its own people

Dictator that understand that this is the time for his nation to start democracy

Soeharto resign

Natural Death with respect

Difference between Libya and Indonesia being that in Indonesia it was all handled internally. In Libya's case NATO bombed them and gulf states funded insurgents. Look at Libya now. Its a million times worse than when Gaddafi was presiding.

 

[500]

Difference between Libya and Indonesia being that in Indonesia it was all handled internally. In Libya's case NATO bombed them and gulf states funded insurgents.

NATO bombings started only AFTER degenerate Gahaffi stated a bloody civil war to stay in power.

Look at Libya now. Its a million times worse than when Gaddafi was presiding.

False. Libya today is thousand times better than it was on 18 March 2011 with Ghaddafi and million times better than today Syria where psychopath Assad was allowed to do whatever he likes.

 

[Assadynasty]

False. Libya today is thousand times better than it was on 18 March 2011 with Ghaddafi and million times better than today Syria where psychopath Assad was allowed to do whatever he likes.

Libya was the most prosperous country in Africa before 2011.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10...afi-to-terrorist-haven-after-us-intervention/

 

[500]

Libya was the most prosperous country in Africa before 2011.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10...afi-to-terrorist-haven-after-us-intervention/

On 18 March 2011 (day before NATO intervention) Libya was deep in bloody civil war, similar to war in Syria.

Without NATO intervention we would have in Libya what we have in Syria: destroyed country, half turned refugees, hundreds of thousands killed, bloody war going without end.

 

[Assadynasty]

On 18 March 2011 (day before NATO intervention) Libya was deep in bloody civil war, similar to war in Syria.

Without NATO intervention we would have in Libya what we have in Syria: destroyed country, half turned refugees, hundreds of thousands killed, bloody war going without end.

Libya is destroyed today as it is. Endless war, warlords, IS.