IDEAS 2016 Karachi Pakistan

[CHACHA"G"]

Is this the upgraded Al-Khalid or Al-Khalid II

Which APC its is and look at its Turret .

Security Vehicle DRAGOON (looks upgraded or Downgraded Dragon )

And This is The Gun (new machine Gun)

Watch The Whole Program .

 

[JamD]

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Which APC its is and look at its Turret .

An old product called Hamza (Not to be confused with Blitzkrieg Hamza 8x8). Picture from previous IDEAS (not sure which one)

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Spanish product produced and marketed under license (or partnership) by a Pakistani company.

That's what I'm asking is Pak Metal Eng Works producing these or what?

 

[Echo_419]

A UGV in POF stall

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Were you using a potato

 

[princefaisal]

I think FNSS pars is beter.

The FNSS PARS, or “Leopard” in Turkish, is a departure of sorts from other 8×8 platforms in use today.

This is mainly found in the vehicle’s front where a raised glacis plate protects the driver and gunner who are seated side by side. Entering from twin roof hatches the PARS’ crew operate the vehicle from an air-conditioned weapons station.

Another distinction is its high tech suspension system. The PARS can elevate itself by 500mm, tilt forward, and balance itself sideways while traversing slopes. Most remarkable is its adjustable controlled suspension.

Two optical cameras and two thermal cameras at the front and rear provide visibility. Aside from the turret smoke discharges and APS’ can be placed on four different parts of the roof. Basic armor protection is at STANAG IV.

Depending on its configuration–there are six variants–up to 8 passengers can fit inside the PARS who enter via a circular rear door. There are four additional roof hatches are behind the turret for better visibility during patrol. There is also an escape hatch at the right side of the hull between the first and second road wheels.

The PARS is equipped with a 550 hp water cooled diesel engine located behind the crew–and its cooling vent is to the left side of the hull. Top speed is at 100 km/h. Two waterjet propellers at the rear of the hull propel the PARS at 8 km/h across rivers and streams. The PARS is license-built in Malaysia as the AV-8.

PARS seems much better in every thing especially suspension and best fit for army. However Hamza seems good for even surfaces & may be suitable for FC only.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

That's what I'm asking is Pak Metal Eng Works producing these or what?

That seems to be the case - i.e. Metal Engineering Works got approval and specs to assemble or manufacture them under license.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

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Is this the upgraded Al-Khalid or Al-Khalid II
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Which APC its is and look at its Turret .

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Security Vehicle DRAGOON (looks upgraded or Downgraded Dragon )
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And This is The Gun (new machine Gun)

Watch The Whole Program .

Chacha G ... that isnt PK-16... But the old Type 54:

http://www.pof.gov.pk/products.php?catid=1

In service as a HMG for decades.

 

[CHACHA"G"]

Chacha G ... that isnt PK-16... But the old Type 54:

http://www.pof.gov.pk/products.php?catid=1

In service as a HMG for decades.

Agree sir G , But guy from POF said new Gun will be lighter and shorter version of this same gun And POF made that on the request of Army , so that can be fitted on Light Armoured Vehicles.

Edit: Just found this , If u look closly you can see the difference in Tripod and seize too , SO IS THIS THE GUN, PK-16?

 

[The Eagle]

 

[Path-Finder]

Agree sir G , But guy from POF said new Gun will be lighter and shorter version of this same gun And POF maid that on the request of Army , so that can be fitted on Light Armoured Vehicles.

Edit: Just found this , If u look closly you can see the difference in Tripod and seize too , SO IS THIS THE GUN, PK-16?

This Gun is from WW2 and outdated! Really need to adopt new guns and do away with these dinosaurs.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Agree sir G , But guy from POF said new Gun will be lighter and shorter version of this same gun And POF maid that on the request of Army , so that can be fitted on Light Armoured Vehicles.

Edit: Just found this , If u look closly you can see the difference in Tripod and seize too , SO IS THIS THE GUN, PK-16?

I doubt it... thats the same gun used on the RCS of Al Khalid... but for another role:

This Gun is from WW2 and outdated! Really need to adopt new guns and do away with these dinosaurs.

Not really..

 

[Path-Finder]

I doubt it... thats the same gun used on the RCS of Al Khalid... but for another role:

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Not really..

DShK WW2 or Outdated?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

DShK WW2 or Outdated?

The pic of the HMG he posted isnt a DShK... rather Chinese (HIT produced) HMG variant... likely:
http://world.guns.ru/machine/ch/type-5-hmg-e.html

A levi-cop with the HMG:

Caliber: 12,7x108mm (also 12,7x99mm / .50BMG in W95 version)
Weight: 24 kg (gun) + 17,5 (tripod)
Length: 2150 mm
Length of barrel: 1000 mm
Feeding: belt, 60 rounds
Rate of fire: 650-700 rounds per minute


...

DSHK:


Caliber: 12,7x109 mm
Weight: 34 kg MG body, 157 kg on universal wheeled mount with shield
Length: 1625 mm
Length of barrel: 1070 mm
Feeding: belt 50 rounds
Rate of fire: 600 rounds/min

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M2:


Caliber: .50BMG (12,7x99mm)
Weight:38 kg MG, 58 kg complete with M3 tripod
Length: 1650 mm
Length of barrel: 1140 mm
Feeding: belt
Rateof fire: 450-600 rounds/min

 

[Path-Finder]

The pic of the HMG he posted isnt a DShK... rather Chinese (HIT produced) HMG variant... likely:
http://world.guns.ru/machine/ch/type-5-hmg-e.html

A levi-cop with the HMG:

View attachment 354604

Caliber: 12,7x108mm (also 12,7x99mm / .50BMG in W95 version)
Weight: 24 kg (gun) + 17,5 (tripod)
Length: 2150 mm
Length of barrel: 1000 mm
Feeding: belt, 60 rounds
Rate of fire: 650-700 rounds per minute


...

DSHK:


Caliber: 12,7x109 mm
Weight: 34 kg MG body, 157 kg on universal wheeled mount with shield
Length: 1625 mm
Length of barrel: 1070 mm
Feeding: belt 50 rounds
Rate of fire: 600 rounds/min

,,,,,,,,,

M2:


Caliber: .50BMG (12,7x99mm)
Weight:38 kg MG, 58 kg complete with M3 tripod
Length: 1650 mm
Length of barrel: 1140 mm
Feeding: belt
Rateof fire: 450-600 rounds/min

This is a DShK.

Should have adopted M2 more versatile than this gun.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

This is a DShK.

Should have adopted M2 more versatile than this gun.

The difference between the two the two HMGs is quiet visible..

P.S; We did use the M2s in the past.