ICHR member calls Indian Leftists Jihad-friendly

[wolfschanzze]

Finally, Hindus are speaking their mind and kicking out these Marxist,Leftist, Jihadi,Naxal lovers.who always toe the Anti-Hindu line.
As i said before the Rubicon of tolerance for Hindus has already been crossed, there is no going back now, only forward ahoy!
Now comes the full might and strength of the Hindus who were silent for all these years.The enemy is on back foot,nay they will be wiped out without a trace.No single book,paper of Marxists will be spared all will be burned and gutted to the ground and their ashes scattered in the Ganges.
Will make sure what Rome did to Carthage "pour so much salt so that nothing grows ever".The Marxists are going to feel the full heat of what is coming soon,'They can cry, they can run, but they can never hide,they will be eliminated forever' from Academic fields, policy making,decision making, forming the narratives,debates and Writing History'.

Acche din ahead for Marxists,Communists

 

[jaatram]

The Internet has bred intellectual retards.

I hope Sire here isn't referring to the ilk of Sagarika Ghose and Rana Ayyub.

 

[livingdead]

Why Muslim personal law board was hidden behind Nehruvian secular facade?

really? it would be called 'nehruvian secular law board' ..right?

 

[jaatram]

really? it would be called 'nehruvian secular law board' ..right?

One can call Sh!t cr@p, it doesn't make it stink any less.

 

[IndoCarib]

In a nation where Hindu bashing and Naxal/Jihadi sympathising is considered 'activism', speaking against such 'activists' will surely invite jibes of being a sanghi/ bhakt.

 

[SrNair]

Idealogy of Left is failing.Their own confusion and stupidity caused this tragedy to them.Look at the Bengal .
They supported the China in early 1962 war.Still supporting but China is winning commies in here are losing.

 

[Sky lord]

There is some need for more rigor with academic history in India. I remember reading somewhere that the population of India decreased by 80 million people during the 400 years at the height of the Muslim invasions, that was an enormous proportion of the then population, every single temple in the northern belt was destroyed at one time. Indians do need to face this reality, this country has suffered. However, we also need to make sure that this is not somehow laid at the door of Indian Muslims today, they should not be held responsible, in fact their ancestors probably suffered the most. There were many Hindu kings also who were pretty goddam awful, I think it's is just that Medieval times suck.

really? it would be called 'nehruvian secular law board' ..right?

What's up with your avatar? Is it a drowning cat? It's truly a little gross...

 

[Joe Shearer]

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There is some need for more rigor with academic history in India. I remember reading somewhere that the population of India decreased by 80 million people during the 400 years at the height of the Muslim invasions, that was an enormous proportion of the then population, every single temple in the northern belt was destroyed at one time. Indians do need to face this reality, this country has suffered. However, we also need to make sure that this is not somehow laid at the door of Indian Muslims today, they should not be held responsible, in fact their ancestors probably suffered the most. There were many Hindu kings also who were pretty goddam awful, I think it's is just that Medieval times suck.


What's up with your avatar? Is it a drowning cat? It's truly a little gross...

You seem to be trying to arrive at a balanced picture. Some deeper investigation is advisable.

There were horrific deaths due to famine in British colonial times as well, and the figures may surprise you. It was not only mediaeval times that 'sucked', modern times did so too. You talk of every single temple in the northern belt having been destroyed at one time. This is as strange a report as the report about the population.

People were killed, or died in natural calamities, far more than they did in recent times; human life was held even less of value then as it is now. Kings raided each other's territories, destroyed towns and cities and whole populations, and did so with far less public uproar than is now the case.

We have come a long way.

Lastly, you might like to read an illustrated version of Alice in Wonderland, and look closely at the pictures therein, especially at the Cheshire Cat.

Your entire post is anthropological evidence - of great value.

 

[Sky lord]

If I recall the population figures came from someone who was recreating historical population and output figures globally. India had pretty constant or very gradually increasing population figures and then it reduces by about 80 million over 400 years. The destroyed temples came from a Chinese traveller to India that recorded it, again I wish I could remember more but I don't. Several million people, I think it was 3M. Maybe more ? Died in the man made Bengal famine but I don't think there is any controversy about that. We know and much has been written about the ships laden with grain that sailed past the Bay of Bengal to Britain while the Bengalis died. There is however a strong resistance to claiming that the Muslim invasions killed and killed a lot and often very cruelly. I think the resistance comes from a fear that there will be some kind of backlash against Muslims. I don't see why there should be, and this constant lying about certain parts of our history is creating a vacuum that is being filled with much worse stories. After all if India was repeatedly invaded that was due to the weakness of the residents too, the Romans fought back against the barbarians, China built a wall, Persians were over run and the Indians were disunited. We can always learn from truth but not from propaganda however well intentioned.

That cat gives me the creeps, no offense but he should go back to Wonderland.

 

[Nicky G]

There is some need for more rigor with academic history in India. I remember reading somewhere that the population of India decreased by 80 million people during the 400 years at the height of the Muslim invasions, that was an enormous proportion of the then population, every single temple in the northern belt was destroyed at one time. Indians do need to face this reality, this country has suffered. However, we also need to make sure that this is not somehow laid at the door of Indian Muslims today, they should not be held responsible, in fact their ancestors probably suffered the most. There were many Hindu kings also who were pretty goddam awful, I think it's is just that Medieval times suck.

History does not exist in a vacuum, it has real life consequences. One small one, if due to biased historians, we today do not acknowledge the extent and specific cases of temples destroyed, how can they be restored?

I don't blame the Muslims today for the acts of invaders, however if they fail to acknowledge and accept the savagery and its impact on India, then they do deserve the blame for continued disrespect and suffering of Hindus.

Not a comparison but an analogy, the Germans today are not to be blamed for the Nazis and their actions, but would it be fine for the Germans today to not even acknowledge and try to make amends for the damage Nazis did?

 

[Joe Shearer]

If I recall the population figures came from someone who was recreating historical population and output figures globally. India had pretty constant or very gradually increasing population figures and then it reduces by about 80 million over 400 years. The destroyed temples came from a Chinese traveller to India that recorded it, again I wish I could remember more but I don't. Several million people, I think it was 3M. Maybe more ? Died in the man made Bengal famine but I don't think there is any controversy about that. We know and much has been written about the ships laden with grain that sailed past the Bay of Bengal to Britain while the Bengalis died. There is however a strong resistance to claiming that the Muslim invasions killed and killed a lot and often very cruelly. I think the resistance comes from a fear that there will be some kind of backlash against Muslims. I don't see why there should be, and this constant lying about certain parts of our history is creating a vacuum that is being filled with much worse stories. After all if India was repeatedly invaded that was due to the weakness of the residents too, the Romans fought back against the barbarians, China built a wall, Persians were over run and the Indians were disunited. We can always learn from truth but not from propaganda however well intentioned.

That cat gives me the creeps, no offense but he should go back to Wonderland.

Impressive.

"....someone who was recreating historical population and output figures globally..." Anybody from the neighbourhood school teacher with a grounding in statistics, in mathematics and in demographics or population studies (not identical disciplines) to a Grade 1 authority in economics might qualify. I presume that for the purposes of making a dramatic point, these fine distinctions really blur into insignificance.

".....the destroyed temples came from a Chinese traveller to India that recorded it..." Was it Hiuen Tsang? Was it Fa Hien? Do those ring bells?

".....Several million people, I think it was 3M. Maybe more ? Died in the man made Bengal famine but I don't think there is any controversy about that. We know and much has been written about the ships laden with grain that sailed past the Bay of Bengal to Britain while the Bengalis died." Somewhat shallow; the reference was not to the last, second world war Bengal famine but a number, a considerable number, which occurred during British colonisation, and were linked to their approach to rents and to land revenue. One of the worst occurred under the earliest days of British rule in Bengal. Perhaps Uncle Wiki might help you, as sources seem to be elusive and slip through memory

Famine had been a recurrent feature of life in the Indian sub-continental countries of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, and reached its numerically deadliest peak in the late 18th and 19th centuries. Historical and legendary evidence names some 90 famines in 2,500 years of history. There are 14 recorded famines in India between the 11th and 17th centuries. Famines in India resulted in more than 60 million deaths over the course of the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries. The last major famine was the Bengal famine of 1943.

There were numerous cruel deaths at the hands of soldiers and in forcible efforts at conversion, but these are not, historically speaking, peculiar to the Turkish and Afghan invasions. There were other, severe invasions in earlier centuries; the memory of these is still lively in Indian cultural memory.

I honestly, sincerely suggest a revisit of the history books, and a balanced selection.

As for the cat, if you had read Alice in Wonderland, you might have remembered that his balance and measured view of life was worthy of emulation. Maybe a short visit to Wonderland might be beneficial.

 

[nair]

Liftists are Jihad Friendly??????? Pinarayi vijayan must be a Jihadist too........

@Joe Shearer Welcome back.......

 

[Sky lord]

Impressive.

"....someone who was recreating historical population and output figures globally..." Anybody from the neighbourhood school teacher with a grounding in statistics, in mathematics and in demographics or population studies (not identical disciplines) to a Grade 1 authority in economics might qualify. I presume that for the purposes of making a dramatic point, these fine distinctions really blur into insignificance.

".....the destroyed temples came from a Chinese traveller to India that recorded it..." Was it Hiuen Tsang? Was it Fa Hien? Do those ring bells?

".....Several million people, I think it was 3M. Maybe more ? Died in the man made Bengal famine but I don't think there is any controversy about that. We know and much has been written about the ships laden with grain that sailed past the Bay of Bengal to Britain while the Bengalis died." Somewhat shallow; the reference was not to the last, second world war Bengal famine but a number, a considerable number, which occurred during British colonisation, and were linked to their approach to rents and to land revenue. One of the worst occurred under the earliest days of British rule in Bengal. Perhaps Uncle Wiki might help you, as sources seem to be elusive and slip through memory

Famine had been a recurrent feature of life in the Indian sub-continental countries of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, and reached its numerically deadliest peak in the late 18th and 19th centuries. Historical and legendary evidence names some 90 famines in 2,500 years of history. There are 14 recorded famines in India between the 11th and 17th centuries. Famines in India resulted in more than 60 million deaths over the course of the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries. The last major famine was the Bengal famine of 1943.

There were numerous cruel deaths at the hands of soldiers and in forcible efforts at conversion, but these are not, historically speaking, peculiar to the Turkish and Afghan invasions. There were other, severe invasions in earlier centuries; the memory of these is still lively in Indian cultural memory.

I honestly, sincerely suggest a revisit of the history books, and a balanced selection.

As for the cat, if you had read Alice in Wonderland, you might have remembered that his balance and measured view of life was worthy of emulation. Maybe a short visit to Wonderland might be beneficial.

I assume by your smug post that you feel your intellectual abilities are far superior to a mere neighborhood school teacher with a smattering of stats ? So what is your point Mr Genius ? Or are you just waffling on about nothing at all ?

There was much cruelty in the past and continues to be today ... So ? I really don't get what you are trying to say other than that you are super smart... That I am happy to concede.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I assume by your smug post that you feel your intellectual abilities are far superior to a mere neighborhood school teacher with a smattering of stats ? So what is your point Mr Genius ? Or are you just waffling on about nothing at all ?

There was much cruelty in the past and continues to be today ... So ? I really don't get what you are trying to say other than that you are super smart... That I am happy to concede.

All that may be legitimately assumed from my posts is that I do not encourage bags of wind with no substantial knowledge of history to pontificate.

As for the point, that is so difficult for you to detect, it is this:

"A little learning is a dangerous thing,
Drink deep or drink not of the Peirian spring."

Oh, btw, super-smart is a comparative term; in the present circumstances, it might well be justified. In my academic setting, it is not really so. I am one among many.

 

[uparyupari]

Funny how the Famine Ended immediately after India got Independence

No doubt a coincidence