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IAF deploys fighters near Pak border

Hi,

First of all there are no F 16's deployed near the border with india---F 16.

Secondly---placing the su 30 in kashmir and mig 29's at adampur, the IAF has made the job easy for the pak air force---inadvertantly these bases are within the range of of glide bombs like the H 4 and also at within easy strike distance by the F 7 pg's and mirage strike aircraft.---the writer of the artciles styated that.

The kashmir base whwere the su 30 are posted---I believe it is a total blunder by the iaf---the time that it would take for the paf to complete the mission and wipe out the base---su 30 engines would not have spooled up to full power.

On the other hand---it also gives instant strike capability to the iaf as well---it is also a great temptation for a pre-emptive strike by the pak air force on those bases---. A successful raid taking out most of te sqdrns would completely demoralize the iaf---.

I don't know if the adampur air base is within range of MRL's systems. Iaf would have been in a better position if it was at least 200 miles inside its borders. Within 50 miles---it is open season.

Hardened shelters are being built in the near LoC airbases.

Along with that IAF is putting up aerostats along the airbases with Pak.
RFP for 6 more have been released- with 400km detection range and minimum support costs, its a static AWAC up there to look into Pakistan.

Couple that with an overhaul of the SAM systems.

With CM's on both sides of the border 50kms or 500kms doesnt really matter if you want to take out an airbase.

And lastly, with the amount of planes India is buying/building, what do think IAF will do, keep them one over the other in Central India?

230 Su-30's, 60 MiG 29SMT's, 60 M2005 and 120 Jag DPSA, 100 something MiG 27. I think its safe to assume that the majority wont be along the border.
 
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Hi,

First of all there are no F 16's deployed near the border with india---F 16.

Secondly---placing the su 30 in kashmir and mig 29's at adampur, the IAF has made the job easy for the pak air force---inadvertantly these bases are within the range of of glide bombs like the H 4 and also at within easy strike distance by the F 7 pg's and mirage strike aircraft.---the writer of the artciles styated that.

The kashmir base whwere the su 30 are posted---I believe it is a total blunder by the iaf---the time that it would take for the paf to complete the mission and wipe out the base---su 30 engines would not have spooled up to full power.
On the other hand---it also gives instant strike capability to the iaf as well---it is also a great temptation for a pre-emptive strike by the pak air force on those bases---. A successful raid taking out most of te sqdrns would completely demoralize the iaf---.



Could u elborate :what:
 
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So wat do u guys want us to do with our MKI and Fulcrums....

Use it as a joy ride for our Presidents and for acrobatics during R-Day parade..? :lol: :lol:

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IAF deploys fighters near Pak border, a clear cut aggression

By Sultan M Hali

The Indian Air Force has stationed its MiG 29 fighter aircraft at Adampur near the Pakistani border to strengthen its air defense capabilities and minimize reaction time, according to news reports. There are two squadrons of the frontline fighters already present at the Adampur Airbase and the third squadron is on its way from Gujarat. ‘We consider ourselves to be a strategic air power establishment of the IAF in the western sector, ever ready for operations. We are fully geared up to operate in any given time frame like any other Air Force stations of the country,’ said Air Commodore HS Arora, Air Officer Commanding (AOC) of the Adampur air base.

To extend the service life of MiG 29 by 25 to 40 years, the RAC MiG aircraft corporation signed a contract with the Indian Ministry of Defense to upgrade over 60 fighters in service with the IAF since the 1980s. Six MiG-29 fighters are being upgraded and flight-tested in Russia and the remaining aircraft will be overhauled in India with the aid of Russian experts, IAF pilots and technicians are already undergoing training in Russia. The AOC claimed that the upgraded MiG 29 fighters will have better radar systems and avionics to help fighters, a new weapon control system, modernized RD-33 engines, which would increase the aircraft hitting capability from long ranges, will also be extremely helpful on any future attack on Pakistan. The first batch of upgraded fighters will arrive in the second half of 2010 and Russia will complete the upgradation of 60 MiG-29 fighters by 2013.
The IAF this year inducted one Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) aircraft, and two more will come on line in 2010 to strengthen IAF’s capability to see into Pakistan. In addition, the IAF is acquiring three midair refuelers, six C-130 transport aircraft, 80 medium-lift helicopters, Spyder air defense systems, medium power radars and low-level transportable radar. Earlier Western Air Command chief Air Marshal N.A.K. Browne had announced that the Indian Air Force is planning to deploy by 2011 two squadrons of Sukhoi Su-30 MKI multi-role strike fighters in the state of Punjab which borders Pakistan. Reportedly, the IAF is also upgrading six airstrips in Arunachal Pradesh to rapidly deploy troops and jointly developing with Russia fifth generation fighter aircrafts.

Pakistan should take this development in its stride and actually welcome it. India is so obsessed with it “Cold Start Strategy” and its fixation with launching its forces at minimum notice to gain the element of surprise that it is actually making Pakistan’s task easier. With the Su-30 and MiG-29s within striking range of its second line fighters like F-7Ps, PAF would be conserving its hi-tech F-16s and JF-17 Thunders and yet manage to wipe out the IAF’s hi-tech force with minimum effort generation. India’s AWACS will be matched with the SAAB ERIEYE AWACS, which will commence delivery from this year, while the Chinese AWCAS are expected in the near future. Other force multipliers like air to air refuelers are also in the pipeline. Possible modification of existing C-130s and A-310, induction of KC-135 are distinct possibilities and hopefully Pakistani defense planners are contemplating these options. Meanwhile Indian efforts to browbeat Pakistan have taken sinister turns. It is not ready to face Pakistan on the dialogue table and is making various excuses despite its solemn commitment at Sharm-ul-Shaikh. Parrot like, it is repeating its demands to do more to nab those behind the Mumbai attacks.

So much so that reportedly the Indian PM is trying to miss the Commonwealth heads of governments meeting in Trinidad coming November so that he does not have to meet his Pakistani counterpart Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani after reneging on his promise to restart the dialogue process. Meanwhile, President Obama is moving a universal test ban proposal but India is sabotaging its attempt by asking for more nuclear tests. It is a clear call for browbeating Pakistan because readers may recall that only last month, Indian Army Chief General Deepak Kapoor had declared that “Pakistan is stockpiling nukes over and above its genuine needs”. Right after the Mumbai attacks, which now appear to have been stage-managed by India itself, Indian Air Chief prepared to launch surgical strikes against alleged terrorist training camps in Pakistan. It was deterred only by the instant retaliation and state of preparedness by PAF. Indian fighter aircraft violated Pakistani airspace in a probe mission but got the rude shock of nearly being intercepted.
On September 11, India launched rocket attacks on its own side of the border and claimed that Pakistan had fired the projectiles. On October 6, 2009, BSF (Indian Border security Force) Director General Raman Srivastava during his first visit to Punjab Frontier said that BSF would give befitted reply to each Pakistan’s anti Indian acts. Addressing the media persons at Indo-Pak JCP (Joint Check Post) in Attari border Srivastava talked about recent rocket attacks on Indian border villages and cautioned Pakistan saying that in future such attacks from Pakistan would be replied in a befitted manner adding that 29 more BSF battalions would be positioned at the Pak-India border. It is not understood that after fencing the border as well as the Line of Control, India alleges that Pakistan is continuing cross-border terrorism. After spending millions of dollars on the state-of-the-art electronic fence, border patrols and ferocious watchdogs, India is now planning to enhance its Border Security Force by 29 battalions.
It is clear that India is trying to indulge in saber rattling and brow beat Pakistan so that attention can be diverted from the core issue of Kashmir as well as Indian supremacy and hegemony can be established in the region. To fulfill this desire, India continues to maintain the second largest standing army in the world, the fourth largest air force and the fifth largest Navy. With her potent conventional forces coupled with nuclear capability and a huge indigenous industrial base India aspires to attain the regional global power status.

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Waste of time, what a cheap level article is this????????

PAf can manage to wipe out the IAF’s hi-tech force with minimum effort generation. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Even zaid hamid will not say this.

Also, if IAF deploys fighters near Pak border what's wrong or new in this???

Whole of PAF is deployed at Indian border.
 
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I don't think there is any need for elaboration. He has made his point very much clear.

:agree:


You mean the Su-30 would not be able to even warm up its engines and the F-7pgs would have already destroyed them
 
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Guy's the more indian asset's r deployed near border the better, we wont be streched up to central india or east coast to look for these. relax let them put all the egg's in same basket. We will make a scramble egg's. :victory::victory::victory:
 
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What is the point for IDF deploying its fighters closer to the border. If they ever cross the border they will see the Shaheen 2 fly right past them in the opposite direction.
 
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You mean the Su-30 would not be able to even warm up its engines and the F-7pgs would have already destroyed them

May be but it goes both ways. May IAF might be able to raid with shortest span of time inside Pakistan or PAF and PA might have an easy run.

By the way who needs F-7PG or F-16 when we have MRL's of atleast 120km range.

A-100 MRL confirm to Pakistan
 
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What is the point for IDF deploying its fighters closer to the border. If they ever cross the border they will see the Shaheen 2 fly right past them in the opposite direction.

Make sure that u do the calculation right while sending them in east so that they dont land up back in the country of their origin in the east.:lol:
 
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You mean the Su-30 would not be able to even warm up its engines and the F-7pgs would have already destroyed them
dark angel no doubt al 31 engine takes its own time to warm up BUT as far as F-7pg destroying su 30 base is concern:cheesy:bhai wo su 30 ka air base hai halwa nhi hai jo F-7pg akar kha jayega...............all the bases near border will have atleast 2 squad of AKASH sam............f-7pgs or thunders{present block}will be like peanuts for them{:cheesy:khane ke baad dakaar bhi nhi marenge}
 
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Pakistan should take this development in its stride and actually welcome it. India is so obsessed with it “Cold Start Strategy” and its fixation with launching its forces at minimum notice to gain the element of surprise that it is actually making Pakistan’s task easier. With the Su-30 and MiG-29s within striking range of its second line fighters like F-7Ps, PAF would be conserving its hi-tech F-16s and JF-17 Thunders and yet manage to wipe out the IAF’s hi-tech force with minimum effort generation. India’s AWACS will be matched with the SAAB ERIEYE AWACS

This line really gave away the amateurish nature of the author of this article. He is blindly assuming that India will be sleeping when PAF aircraft enter to attack. Forward airbases will be constantly on alert. Indian radars and AWACS will pick up Pak aircraft well inside Pak airspace and any suspicion of attack will be enough to scramble MiG-29s. And once MiG-29s are up in the sky, we all know F-7s wont stand a chance. And even if The MiGs need time, it not like the air bases are just open to attack. They will be well defended by SAMs.

And even if one airbase is taken out, we have more MKIs and Migs in other air bases to deliver strikes into pakistan. so taking out our forward base will do nothing more than incite more violence
 
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This line really gave away the amateurish nature of the author of this article. He is blindly assuming that India will be sleeping when PAF aircraft enter to attack. Forward airbases will be constantly on alert. Indian radars and AWACS will pick up Pak aircraft well inside Pak airspace and any suspicion of attack will be enough to scramble MiG-29s. And once MiG-29s are up in the sky, we all know F-7s wont stand a chance. And even if The MiGs need time, it not like the air bases are just open to attack. They will be well defended by SAMs.

And even if one airbase is taken out, we have more MKIs and Migs in other air bases to deliver strikes into pakistan. so taking out our forward base will do nothing more than incite more violence



may b writer wants to say that pakistan's inferior air crafts can bang su30s by using air launch cruise missiles :what: :D
 
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