IAF : Covering up Su-30 Loss?

[ziaulislam]

Do you really feel that I have access of such level where I can know about the number of AMRAAM wreckage available with IAF or GOI...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1162994858065195008

https://twitter.com/x/status/1185864742742573056

Please note that "The Print" is most anti Modi and anti India news portal...
https://theprint.in/defence/8-piece...abhinandan-shot-down-a-pakistani-f-16/278752/

I have already seen what you are trying NOW... for more details...
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/debunking-indian-claims-of-f-16-firing-aim-120c-amraam.604719/

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/evidence-abhinandan-is-a-su30mki-pilot.604874/

Yet the print said that pakistan magically used 3d technology to repair the building and crwated artifical holes to simulate bombing sites...

Seiing how ludicrous this sound the guy who cant speaks stated that lets not go into this, its irrelevant ...

 

[valkyr_96]

I can remember how Abhinandan was shown as a MKI PILOT on this forum... with PROOFS... an old documentary... without knowing the FACT that only seasoned pilots are allowed to fly MiG 21 due to its unforgiving nature...

AMRAAMs were not used... DG-ISPR...

That's not true....the video was there to prove that Abhinandan was a IAF pilot because you people claimed that IAF pilots are not allowed to keep mustaches (therefore he was a Pakistani we were parading). It just turned out that he was flying at Mki at that time. You can say now that the Mig 21 is "unforgiving" but at that time everyone was genuinely confused as to how a pilot goes from an Mki to a Mig 21. Mind you this all happened in a day.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Disclaimer : I just shared the information posted on Facebook.I am not the author of the post and do not believe all points to be true.Its just for discussion.

The Six Victims belonging to Indian Air Force, who lost their lives during Indo-Pak air combat on 27th February 2019. Unlike WC Abhinandan, they never get the chance to come infront of media and tell their real account. As per Indian sources, these six lost their life when India's Spyder SAM system shot their own Mi-17 helicopter down out of panic in a friendly fire incident.

Interestingly, out of these six victims, only Sqn Ldrs Siddharth Vashisht & Ninad Mandavgane (shown in above two larger Pic sections) will receive Vayu Sena Medal on this Republic Day of India. Rest four will receive mention in dispatches only; a biased behavior indeed.

Now it raises certain doubts,

1: Why TWO Squadron Leaders were flying a helicopter? In general two Sq Ldrs are not assigned at the same time for flying a helicopter.

2: Why only Sq Ldrs are receiving Gallantry awards, not rest? Why they both are special? Is it sign of professional biasness? Or something else?

3: Why Six personal were onboard a helicopter which was on search & rescue duty? A duty which in general is undertaken by four men?

4: Are the pilots of downed Su-30 MKI among them? After all the easiest way to coverup loss of life is to include them in helicopter losses.



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CREDITS: AoP

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Good point but I assure you with certainty that one of downed Su-pilot was Sikh who fell right on top of our post and rushed to CMH by soldiers on spot without the knowledge of gathering of locals in area and that is why there is no video or not allowed to show...He died at CMH and his body handed over to red cross in a secrecy....

 

[BATMAN]

Had Pakistan fired 9 more AIM, there would be no Indian army and no awards and no discussion.

 

[Path-Finder]

FakeNewj they shot down a F16 with miggy 21, if Sue had been out a single makhi could wipe out entire F16 fleet.

MOD edit: please don't use # so continuously and unnecessarily on the forum. Discussion has to remain formal.

 

[Shah_Deu]

Nobody in Indian government especially higher levels pays any attention to ISPR statements

That we can see

 

[TheTallGuy]

Good point but I assure you with certainty that one of downed Su-pilot was Sikh who fell right on top of our post and rushed to CMH by soldiers on spot without the knowledge of gathering of locals in area and that is why there is no video or not allowed to show...He died at CMH and his body handed over to red cross in a secrecy....

since we are ruled by "Pacifist" & "Humane" PM IK why we are not officially show and tell we did such a good deed? what is the play behind it...it will actually support our PM IK "Pacifist" & "peaceful" Narrative that Pakistan is peace loving and tree growing nation who does not want escalation.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Threat level was reduced after Pak official spokespersons plus Pak media too started. Focusing on the narrative of reportedly no casualties in Balakot.
This led many here believe that No escalation will be done by Pak as Pak leadership now has ample narrative and political space to manuever.

Which is why standing CAPs were significantly reduced by IAF in morning.

After your failed strike, DGISPR clearly threatened india to wait for our response.

Unless indian military is full of incompetent tools, I dont think anyone with a sane mind would call it peace and drop CAPs etc.

 

[StormBreaker]

Good point but I assure you with certainty that one of downed Su-pilot was Sikh who fell right on top of our post and rushed to CMH by soldiers on spot without the knowledge of gathering of locals in area and that is why there is no video or not allowed to show...He died at CMH and his body handed over to red cross in a secrecy....

Why the secracy

 

[The Eagle]

As per Indian eye witnesses, an SU-30 was on fire and crashed in Sher Makrni area of Indian occupied Kashmir and then, how the one sees the Mi-17v5 flying towards (not disclosed but obviously on SAR) shot down in friendly fire in Budgam.... Almost outside Budgam......

https://twitter.com/x/status/1184417197457887232

 

[StormBreaker]

As per Indian eye witnesses, an SU-30 was on fire and crashed in Sher Makrni area of Indian occupied Kashmir and then, how the one sees the Mi-17v5 flying towards (not disclosed but obviously on SAR) shot down in friendly fire in Budgam.... Almost outside Budgam......

https://twitter.com/x/status/1184417197457887232

This vid is GOLD

“1 veman pakeestan ki taraf jata dekha phir kuch der baad wo tezi se wapas aya aur aag lag gai”

 

[ziaulislam]

Threat level was reduced after Pak official spokespersons plus Pak media too started. Focusing on the narrative of reportedly no casualties in Balakot.
This led many here believe that No escalation will be done by Pak as Pak leadership now has ample narrative and political space to manuever.

Which is why standing CAPs were significantly reduced by IAF in morning.

eh what?
DG ISPR
CHief of military
Imran khan
Position leader
finance minister asad umar
foreign minister

you can google and see their clear non dubious wording about a "kinetic" response coming..they didnt said response but an actual kinetic response

 

[StormBreaker]

Threat level was reduced after Pak official spokespersons plus Pak media too started. Focusing on the narrative of reportedly no casualties in Balakot.
This led many here believe that No escalation will be done by Pak as Pak leadership now has ample narrative and political space to manuever.

Which is why standing CAPs were significantly reduced by IAF in morning.

I also came to a conclusion that your Air force Lacks quick response or more specifically a quick planned and coordinated response.

Look at the blunder how you guys scrambled, abhinandan inside pak, mki on a distance, shot inside your territory and God knows how many more were locked as per some sources on pdf

 

[araz]

That's a claim not a fact.
Facts requires proof and there is no proof that 9 aircraft were locked

Please write to the Air chief Marshall and present your self at the air headquarter to receive the proof. I am sure you will get plenty to ponder over.( on a very light note).
You know very well we will not give out pictures of locks on open media. Our higher ups have said so. You can choose to believe it or not. That is entirely upto you. Incidentally the badgam video presented here was originally said to be that of a Mig 21. I can see the front of a fighter jet although to be fair it does not look like an M21. It does not look like an MI17 either. So it is very difficult from far away pictures to ascertain what is going on.

A

 

[The Eagle]

This vid is GOLD

“1 veman pakeestan ki taraf jata dekha phir kuch der baad wo tezi se wapas aya aur aag lag gai”

Worries me what, is their safety along with reporter and that media outlet.

However, after 27th Feb, a road accident was reported claiming lives of 2 or more IAF officers.