IAF ASKED TO BE READY FOR ‘WARS’ WITH PAKISTAN, CHINA

[DESERT FIGHTER]

There PAF didn't confront the IAF on any level, The IAF flow nearly 5,000 sorties, where was the PAF
One Aircraft suffered an engine malfunction and the other was shot got by a SAM possible by PA, so where was the PAF?

Please do some quality research and read up on history before make a lame comment!

PAF flied sorties in Pak territory as it wasnt a declared war.

And IAF lost 3 aircrafts.

Not to SAMs rathee AAG/MANPADs, anza series to be precise.

 

[randomradio]

no sir. India's 80 percent military is on Pakistan border while 20% is dedicated to china.

No.

wars and cricket are unpredictable. No body can predict the result or tie frame. Mosul operation is already few months longer than estimated time.

The 10 and 15 days are with respect to high tempo operations.

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

And IAF lost 3 aircrafts.
Not to SAMs rathee AAG/MANPADs, anza series to be precise.

No aircraft was lost to AAA.
And India lost two aircraft one fixed wing and one rotary to Stinger fire.

All operations (except air defence) came to a sudden standstill on 28 May, after two IAF fighters and a helicopter were lost – a MiG-21 and a Mi-17 to Pak Army surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), while a MiG-27 went down due to engine trouble caused by gun gas ingestion during high altitude strafing. (Incidentally, the pilot of the MiG-27 Flt Lt Nachiketa, who ejected and was apprehended, had a tête-à-tête with this author during an interesting ‘interrogation’ session.)

When Lt Gen Mahmood asked for questions at the end of the rather crisp and to-the-point briefing, Air Cdre Saleem Nawaz opened up by inquiring about the type of air support that might be needed for the operation. Lt Gen Mahmood assured us that air support was not envisaged and that his forces could take care of enemy aircraft, if they intervened. “I have Stingers on every peak,” he announced.

http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.in/2009/01/kargil-conflict-and-pakistan-air-force.html

Jawans of the 1/11 Gorkha Rifles with captured Stinger SAM launchers of the Pakistan Army.

 

[beijingwalker]

India still dreams about fighting a two front wars with China and Pakistan, but we are safe to say that it won't be a two front war, it's several front, east section, middle section and west section all along the Chinese Indian border.

 

[Ahmad Bhutta]

No aircraft was lost to AAA.
And India lost two aircraft one fixed wing and one rotary to Stinger fire.


http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.in/2009/01/kargil-conflict-and-pakistan-air-force.html

they look all gurkhas

India still dreams about fighting a two front wars with China and Pakistan, but we are safe to say that it won't be a two front war, it's several front, east section, middle section and west section all along the Chinese Indian border.

India cant afford a war with so many seperatists movements going on inside India itself, their soldiers are poorly fed they cry on youtube all the time they do not have the will to fight

last time 2 indian jets entered few kms inside pakistan and were both shot down within minutes by a MANPAD only now the technology is much advanced and Chinese Anti-aircraft is very sophisticated , indian planes will drop like flies

 

[POPEYE-Sailor]

Bus in ko easi reports dekha dekha k khush ker do. IAF GOT order to attack on pak but after an hour order was on hold blah blah blah...

 

[AKD]

they look all gurkhas


India cant afford a war with so many seperatists movements going on inside India itself, their soldiers are poorly fed they cry on youtube all the time they do not have the will to fight

lol one video and you painted all armed forces of India??? Well it will be easy to kill overconfident soldiers.. And about separatist movements.. Well we also see blasts all across Pakistan every month.so don't worry about India.

last time 2 indian jets entered few kms inside pakistan and were both shot down within minutes by a MANPAD only now the technology is much advanced and Chinese Anti-aircraft is very sophisticated , indian planes will drop like flies

Your manpads work around old jets like mig27 and not mirages...now we have more advance jes that can fly beyond range of manpads...but those poor soldiers will be blown up by air to surface weapon's..

 

[Indian wonk]

India still dreams about fighting a two front wars with China and Pakistan, but we are safe to say that it won't be a two front war, it's several front, east section, middle section and west section all along the Chinese Indian border.

Stop exaggerating

You barely have enough artillery and air assets in place at western theater command , except your rocket artillery you cannot win .

 

[Jlaw]

Thats just how a bharti thinks, he thinks if he doesnt fight after 10 days, we would get bored n go back to bunkers lol, on a serious note, the writer is analyzing the ammunation capacity, airforce numbers and economic factors that would make a war longer than 10-15 days unrealistic, nuclear weapons also come into play here, as both sides are radioactive hence both will try to avoid a longer conflict which might lead to MAD...

India only has at most 1megaton non thermonuclear missiles (assuming it works). China has over 294 megaton thermonuclear (CIA estimated from 1990. But clearly its most likely 600 megaton now conservatively estimates). If there is nukes flying around, it be targeting Indian soil.

 

[beijingwalker]

India cant afford a war with so many seperatists movements going on inside India itself, their soldiers are poorly fed they cry on youtube all the time they do not have the will to fight

 

[Jlaw]

I mean to say how did they came up with the timeline of 10 days with Pakistan and 15 days with China? What if China and Pakistan continue to push for a prolonged war. Like Chinese and Pakistani soldiers decide to eat Bhailpuri in Mumbai then what?

More than 15 days, Hindus will run out of ammo and cowardly surrender or run like 1962 again.

 

[beijingwalker]

Stop exaggerating

You barely have enough artillery and air assets in place at western theater command , except your rocket artillery you cannot win .

You know how fast China is capable to make things happen when we want, China speed. You can only dream How old is your map?

Xinjiang to Tibet highway(Xinjiang section)

 

[Indian wonk]

You know how fast China is capable to make things happen when we want, China speed. You can only dream How old is your map?

2015

The Sino-Indian disputed borders represent isolated high-altitude regions with difficult terrain and weather conditions presenting problems for troops, weapons and equipment. Ground combat will occur mainly along roads that normally follow valleys or ridges, limiting support and cooperation between forces operating on different axes. The lack of cross-terrain mobility limits the ability of ground forces to conduct penetrating or outflanking operations against enemy forces. PLA publications stress airmobile landings in the enemy rear area to overcome the restricted terrain and enemy defensive positions. Special operations forces available to the WTC would represent highly qualified units to operate in the enemy rear area to disrupt operations and attack vulnerable lines of communications. The high-altitude reduces aviation performance and lift capabilities, and increases maintenance requirements on equipment in general, although the thin air increases the range of projectiles and shrapnel.

Weather conditions would mostly limit air operations to June through September.

Training new recruits could affect an operation depending on the timing. New recruits would likely achieve a minimal operational capability to conduct small unit combat by late spring, which should be adequate for the restricted terrain which will limit maneuver and dictate primarily small unit operations. Depending on the timing of the crisis, the PLA could decide to delay mobilization of soldiers in the WTC to retain full combat capability of units.



conclusion

A mountain offensive would require a substantial advantage in the correlation of forces for the attacker operating under terrain and weather restrictions. As an independent campaign, a joint fire strike could represent punitive strikes against key Indian targets. A joint fire strike campaign is a long-range precision strike by long-range rocket, missile and air forces with the objective to destroy important enemy targets, paralyze the enemy’s operational system of systems (integrated force grouping), weaken the will to resist and destroy war potential, or create conditions for other operations. The Chinese leadership could conclude that conducting precision strikes against key Indian targets was preferable to conducting difficult offensive ground operations where the defender has an advantage



it is tough to fight in mountains as they say mountain eats men . this is not korea or vietnam plains fight

You know how fast China is capable to make things happen when we want, China speed. You can only dream How old is your map?

And no we don't under estimate you we know ur capability

 

[beijingwalker]

2015

The Sino-Indian disputed borders represent isolated high-altitude regions with difficult terrain and weather conditions presenting problems for troops, weapons and equipment. Ground combat will occur mainly along roads that normally follow valleys or ridges, limiting support and cooperation between forces operating on different axes. The lack of cross-terrain mobility limits the ability of ground forces to conduct penetrating or outflanking operations against enemy forces. PLA publications stress airmobile landings in the enemy rear area to overcome the restricted terrain and enemy defensive positions. Special operations forces available to the WTC would represent highly qualified units to operate in the enemy rear area to disrupt operations and attack vulnerable lines of communications. The high-altitude reduces aviation performance and lift capabilities, and increases maintenance requirements on equipment in general, although the thin air increases the range of projectiles and shrapnel.

Weather conditions would mostly limit air operations to June through September.

Training new recruits could affect an operation depending on the timing. New recruits would likely achieve a minimal operational capability to conduct small unit combat by late spring, which should be adequate for the restricted terrain which will limit maneuver and dictate primarily small unit operations. Depending on the timing of the crisis, the PLA could decide to delay mobilization of soldiers in the WTC to retain full combat capability of units.



conclusion

A mountain offensive would require a substantial advantage in the correlation of forces for the attacker operating under terrain and weather restrictions. As an independent campaign, a joint fire strike could represent punitive strikes against key Indian targets. A joint fire strike campaign is a long-range precision strike by long-range rocket, missile and air forces with the objective to destroy important enemy targets, paralyze the enemy’s operational system of systems (integrated force grouping), weaken the will to resist and destroy war potential, or create conditions for other operations. The Chinese leadership could conclude that conducting precision strikes against key Indian targets was preferable to conducting difficult offensive ground operations where the defender has an advantage



it is tough to fight in mountains as they say mountain eats men . this is not korea or vietnam plains fight



And no we don't under estimate you we know ur capability

They are tons of related so call experts articles and one can choose any piece to suit their needs, but if a war breaks out it won't be in just one section along the border, like the one in 1962, it will happen in all fronts and it won't be a two front war for India, it's multiple fronts.

 

[Arsalan 345]

10 days or 15 days,doesn't matter.it will be a nuclear showdown.sit tight and enjoy it anytime!