IAF 400-strong fleet can strike Pakistan in as little as 15 minutes

[John Doe]

So often one reads Pakistani posts about PAF locking on IAF jets after 26/11. I have not heard about this elsewhere. Can somebody please expand on this story?
Thanks in advance.

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

Yes In event of full scale war ...If pakistan loses....their last choice will be nukes.....Yes you may nuke us with one or two.....pakistan may destroy delhi , bombay , kolkata
... But believe me in such event.... pakistan should never underestimate India.....

yes you make nuke us with one or two nukes .....But When We Retaliate , There Will Be No Pakistan

You WILL NOT able to retaliate

Pakistan has more nukes than India: Report
Pak has more nuclear weapons than India: Report - Rediff.com India News
Pakistan has more nuclear weapons than India, claim US experts - The Times of India
Pakistan nukes outstrip India’s, officials say
'Pakistan has more nuclear warheads than India' - TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos
'Pakistan has more nuclear warheads than India'

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Yes In event of full scale war ...If pakistan loses....their last choice will be nukes.....Yes you may nuke us with one or two.....pakistan may destroy delhi , bombay , kolkata
... But believe me in such event.... pakistan should never underestimate India.....

yes you make nuke us with one or two nukes .....But When We Retaliate , There Will Be No Pakistan

Ok there will be no Pakistan but a weak India after nukes with a strong China on top of it or India will attack Pakistan and China at the same?

 

[INDIAN007]

You WILL NOT able to retaliate

Pakistan has more nukes than India: Report
Pak has more nuclear weapons than India: Report - Rediff.com India News
Pakistan has more nuclear weapons than India, claim US experts - The Times of India
Pakistan nukes outstrip India’s, officials say
'Pakistan has more nuclear warheads than India' - TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos
'Pakistan has more nuclear warheads than India'

Oh man.....what you think Pak gonna throw all their nukes on us all at once.....and our military will just sit and watch......what a logic...

 

[INDIAN007]

Ok there will be no Pakistan but a weak India after nukes with a strong China on top of it or India will attack Pakistan and China at the same?

^^ Just as Your signature says -- Time will Tell

 

[INDIAN007]

What Im saying Is in the event Of Nuclear war........yes Indeed India will face destruction....Major cities destroyed....economical loss...etc....But believe me Pakistan will face more destruction.......Or there will be NO Pakistan

I Think MOD should close these thread....

 

[Urbanized Greyhound]

a few points
1) The Article says it takes 15 Minutes for the IAF to make a strike in Pakistan this is very big, I still remember that USAF official of Red flag. he also mentioned this fact as a big problem that IAF pilots took considerably long time before taking off. often USAF whole team was airborned while IAF had only one or two units up there.
2) The PAF response time is approximately ranges from 6 Min to 3 Mins which is approximately 50% of the IAF time so i means that PAF has about 10 Mins to make its move, quite sufficient amount of time.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-aviation/9416-paf-scramble-time.html
3) with long range AWACS on both sides, The strike missions will now be more difficult for both sides as the element of surprise will be out of the game. The real foucus of PAF should be on the enhancement of its stand off weapons. If PAF is able to get the range of Raad around 750 to say 1000 KM (which is an uphill task yet not impossible as US has SOWs capable of hitting upto 1500KMs) it will effectively elminate the need of a strike as all PAF fighters has to do is fire a big volly of SOWs at its target big enough to undermine the defences present. So My bet is that get some good A2A fighters and develop its arsenal of SOWs. Same can be said for IAF but she seems to depend upon penetration strikes rather than Stand off one

1) Dont go by the scenario in the Red Flag .The IAF was operating under severe constraints . One of the effects was the increase of deployment time , in response to Corkey Fornof's criticism of this the IAF pointed out that FOD ( foreign object damage ) was a significant concern as damaged engines would have to be sent back to Russia , thereby increased deployment time was only a precautionary measure, to prevent the entire red flag participating fleet be grounded prematurely.......you can sure as hell be confident such a situation will never happen in bases in Indian western sector...the one's almost kept on a red alert for Pakistan

Stephen Trimble's blog should contain the entire Red Flag situation in detail which illustrates my point,

also about IAF interception and strike time I would refer you to the Atlantic Incident wikipedia

Atlantique Incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

or another one like it....

Indian MiG-29 probes Air France Flight for not Squawking IFF | Frontier India Aerospace, Land and Marine

2) Now as far as AWAC's are concerned since 2004 indian frontline Sukhois have pictured AWAC destruction in their doctrines , the Novator missile had been equipped to the MKI 's in the first upgrade , because the IAF anticipated Pakistan procuring Saab's after the Phalcon was obtained.The israeli EW suites on MKI's , Mig 29-which are still in an upgrade process by Russia to SMT standards ( having capabilities close to Mig 35 in avionics,Ew etc)

so in a potential strike , we may assume the first target of our squadrons engaged in SEAD would be Pakistani Radar systems , with our Migs carrying out sorties , if Saabs are encountered , Sukhois ( with mini AWAC's build in them ) will be send in for sure to bring it down. After that it would be SAM and missile silos , the job of ground attack fighters( mirage etc)...

as of now the element of surprise at least against the Pakistani side is very much present....

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

Oh man.....what you think Pak gonna throw all their nukes on us all at once.....and our military will just sit and watch......what a logic...

The nuclear doctrine of first strike is to severely limit the response of the enemy when engaging in a first strike.

Not surprisingly you will not understand this so I will have to explain it in layman's terms.

Pakistan will launch most to all of its nuclear weapons at india so that indias response will be severely limited.

First strike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Try to using your brain and learn a thing or two before you post the next time.

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

So often one reads Pakistani posts about PAF locking on IAF jets after 26/11. I have not heard about this elsewhere. Can somebody please expand on this story?
Thanks in advance.

YouTube - Indian jets intercepted by Pakistani F16 Fighters - December 13th 2008

 

[INDIAN007]

The nuclear doctrine of first strike is to severely limit the response of the enemy when engaging in a first strike.

Not surprisingly you will not understand this so I will have to explain it in layman's terms.

Pakistan will launch most to all of its nuclear weapons at india so that indias response will be severely limited.

First strike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Try to using your brain and learn a thing or two before you post the next time.

Oh man....once again.....

its useless replying to this....coz u people wont understand...

 

[Urbanized Greyhound]

The nuclear doctrine of first strike is to severely limit the response of the enemy when engaging in a first strike.

Not surprisingly you will not understand this so I will have to explain it in layman's terms.

Pakistan will launch most to all of its nuclear weapons at india so that indias response will be severely limited.

First strike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Try to using your brain and learn a thing or two before you post the next time.

Actually that is what we have been engaged in doing for the last 2 decades i.e disguise our nuke launch sites and delivery mechanisms and build up a significant second strike capability, and with induction of Arihant and leasing of other Russian SSBN's we are well towards building one. Do remember the land size and number of strategic targets of Pakistan in comparison to India will you ?

In the event of a nuke war , count on our response to be sufficient to destroy our adversary as a functioning nation....

 

[INDIAN007]

Actually that is what we have been engaged in doing for the last 2 decades i.e disguise our nuke launch sites and delivery mechanisms and build up a significant second strike capability, and with induction of Arihant and leasing of other Russian SSBN's we are well towards building one. Do remember the land size and number of strategic targets of Pakistan in comparison to India will you ?

In the event of a nuke war , count on our response to be sufficient to destroy our adversary as a functioning nation....

He wont understand this.........

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

Actually that is what we have been engaged in doing for the last 2 decades i.e disguise our nuke launch sites and delivery mechanisms and build up a significant second strike capability, and with induction of Arihant and leasing of other Russian SSBN's we are well towards building one. Do remember the land size and number of strategic targets of Pakistan in comparison to India will you ?

In the event of a nuke war , count on our response to be sufficient to destroy our adversary as a functioning nation....

Land size does not matter. india's population of 1.5 billion - 600 million live below the poverty line.

BBC News - 'More poor' in India than Africa

We will not strike these areas. Try again.

 

[MZUBAIR]

Oh man.....what you think Pak gonna throw all their nukes on us all at once.....and our military will just sit and watch......what a logic...

Not all,

PAK have 90+ nukes from different sources. n If Pak use atleast 10 out of these 90+ they will do the job.

They will be hit on Indian miltary and Nuke sources just to prevent retliation. N that will if happen will surely be done less then 15 mins.

There is nothing in the world that can stop nuke Ballistic n cruise missiles.

 

[SurvivoR]

Hahaha good one Socom