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I don’t like India

... Mr.Nixon is not alive today to confirm his claim.
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This is the biggest BS piece in his made up history. Indian army plans in 71 were just to take away E. Pakistan.

Every forking book and other war account show that.

I seriously doubt that India would have attacked Western front if Pakistan had not initiated war on this side.

Forget about Pakistani Controlled Kashmir (PCK).

It will be foolish for India even today to invade PCK from ICK.

Our weak points are further south. And Indian army has used the southern points of Sialkot and Bahawalpur in both 65 and 71 to muck up Pakistani defenses.


As I said earlier

the author is not trained in history nor diplomacy.

I wish he'd stay with medicine and take care of ALL his patients both Hindu and Muslims (when given a chance).

He should do justice with his profession and leave this $hitty stuff to TV jurnos.
 
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The relationship between India and Pakistan as it has evolved over the last six decades is that of a ‘schoolyard bully’ and the pesky ‘runt’ that refuses to accept the bully as his superior even after being beaten up with considerable regularity

ROFL...he actually made fun of Pakistan(though stated the facts) there :lol:
 
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Yep,,, hate India/Indians and despise hindu's...

Whatever connection we had with them re our past should be dead and buried and we look to set ourselves up as a permanent enemy of India, any enemy of India should look to Pakistan as a way and means to hurt India.
 
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read the article.................my suggestion .....dont waste time on it
First you say, read the article. Then you say, don't waste time over it.

Notwithstanding what you just said, I read the article and found it pretty interesting. If most Pakistanis don't like India, then most Indians don't like Pakistan too! The feeling is sorta mutual! :azn:
 
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I also don't like India. They sent me to this farm called Zimbabwe :D
 
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The long and the short of it is that I do not like India, I do not trust the Indians in India and I have a strong suspicion that they entirely reciprocate these feelings. I have nothing against the Indians as people

All this talk of friendship with India is getting to me. I would like to ask all the Pakistani ‘friends’ of India to tell me one ‘good’ thing that India has ever done for Pakistan, just one. And no, export of Bollywood ‘item numbers’ to Pakistan does not count. As a child, I was brought up on the stories of murder, mayhem and massacre perpetrated on migrating Muslims travelling to Pakistan from India at the time of partition. I know, I know, bad things happened in the other direction also but then there was India refusing to pay Pakistan’s share of money, leading Gandhi to a ‘fast unto death’ and eventually to his assassination. The Indian annexation of Kashmir, Hyderabad, Deccan, and Junagadh did not help either.
During the later 1950s, India and Pakistan seemed to be crawling towards some form of accommodation, eventually leading to the Indus Water Treaty in 1960 but all this came to a screeching halt after the 1965 war between India and Pakistan. Since then, things just kept getting worse. Indian help in breaking up Pakistan in 1971 and the subsequent attempt at conquering ‘Azad Kashmir’, which was only stopped because US President Nixon supposedly called up Brezhnev, the USSR president, and told him to tell Indira Gandhi that would not be acceptable, did not help.
Since then there have been some half-hearted attempts to make things better between the two countries but nothing has ever come out of it. Perhaps the best initiative was the ‘Gujral Doctrine’, offered by I K Gujral as the prime minister of India during the late 1990s. This doctrine suggested that India, as the larger power, had the responsibility of trying to make peace with its neighbours. This came to naught after Gujral left the scene. The low point arrived when India and Pakistan went through the ‘tit for tat’ atomic tests and then fought an entirely stupid war over Kargil.
During the last decade, things took a turn for the worse every time an attempt was made by the two sides to arrive at some sort of rapprochement. I remember a time about a decade ago when things got so peculiar that almost every week, there was some terrorist attack somewhere in Pakistan that the Pakistani government blamed on the Indians, and the same happened in India. As a matter of fact, somebody at that time suggested that the ‘agencies’ on either side had probably made a deal with each other. They would just set off a few crackers every now and then in their own countries and blame it on the other side. This would of course save both sides the trouble of having to infiltrate agents across the border to do the needful.
The long and the short of it is that I do not like India, I do not trust the Indians in India and I have a strong suspicion that they entirely reciprocate these feelings. I have nothing against the Indians as people. During my years in the US many of my good friends, colleagues and neighbours were from India. And I got along just fine with them. Some actually became lifelong friends, especially the ones from the Indian Punjab.
For instance, one of my co-residents during my surgical training was a Sikh who attended the same medical college in Amritsar that my parents attended in the 1940s, and his father had graduated from my alma mater, King Edward Medical College, around the same time. My wife also became quite friendly with one of our ‘Punjabi’ neighbours from India whose mother had attended Kinnaird College in Lahore where my wife was a student in the 1960s. As a matter of fact, at the parties given by this couple, I had the pleasure of consuming some of the best ‘North Indian’ food. During my next visit to the US, I look forward to a dinner at their place.
It was also great fun to watch new medical residents ‘just off the boat’ from India assimilate into the US melting pot. The most interesting ‘cultural confrontation’ was always with the food available in the hospital cafeterias and in local restaurants. This is about a time, almost 40 years ago, when Indian or Pakistani restaurants and grocery stores were hard to come by. From personal experience, I would divide my friends from India into two categories: those that within five years learned to enjoy a medium rare steak with all the trimmings and those that stuck to carrying ‘peanuts and green chillies’ in their pockets during working hours, and essentially lived off them.
Perhaps there existed an ephemeral connection between those of us that had our roots in the same part of India. One of the most interesting conversations I have ever had was about a decade ago with a young Sikh surgical resident. He kept talking of ‘Lyallpur’ (modern day Faisalabad), a city he obviously had never seen but where his family was originally from. The sense of loss was utterly palpable in what the young man had to say.
The relationship between India and Pakistan as it has evolved over the last six decades is that of a ‘schoolyard bully’ and the pesky ‘runt’ that refuses to accept the bully as his superior even after being beaten up with considerable regularity. And now that the runt has achieved ‘nuclear parity’, the runt expects some respect, which the bully finds hard to dish out. Considering the ‘bomb’ situation, the bully cannot just beat up the runt at will and is now reduced to temper tantrums.
I do not believe that ‘friendship’ between our two countries is around the corner. The best we can hope for is to get over the bully and the runt relationship. Grow up as countries and pursue relations based on mutual interests. Peace is what is needed. And a ‘sane’ visa regime between the two countries would be an important beginning.

I don’t like India

Pakistani foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi was quoted as telling TV interviewers on Friday that it wasn't India stealing Pakistan's water but Pakistan was wasting its water.

"The total average canal supplies of Pakistan are 104 million acres/ft. And the water available at the farm gate is about 70 million acre/ft. Where does the 34 million acre/ft go? It's not being stolen in India. It's being wasted in Pakistan".

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...wID4Dg&usg=AFQjCNFYXBDxaH3q0fQFluQJOfpYlDoXaw
 
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After my years on pdf, I can say with certainty that peace between us is highly improbable, the hatred runs too deep...
 
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Yep,,, hate India/Indians and despise hindu's...

Whatever connection we had with them re our past should be dead and buried and we look to set ourselves up as a permanent enemy of India, any enemy of India should look to Pakistan as a way and means to hurt India.


well ndians dont hate pakistan & despise muslims

we beleve in humanity and peace but when someone despite owr best efforts to stay calm keeps poking us we have to retaliate

all peacefull relations/ambitions (between india & pakistan) were lost after pakistani genral send his troops into indian territorry (1965 &1999) despite owr peace efforts now when pakistan is reaping the benfits of its elites/establishments obsession to teach india a lesson at the cost of its own development they are crying 'school boy bullying' and what not

thing is this mansoor guy seems to have lost hope of pakistan's "fateh" over India and is jelous of the fact that indians are now getting richer and more acceptable in whole west while its opposite for many from 'land of the pure' hence his comments on 'indians use to live on peanuts & green chillies' :coffee:


now what do you call it :azn:
 
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Well first India settle the Kashmir issue. Then see how we will stand by it against any of India's enemy. First they will have to fight us and then our Indian brothers. But Kashmir should be given to its people and both Pakistan and India should leave it alone for the Kashmiris. And both countries citizens can travel there visa free. But we all know its never gonna happen.
But aik bar azma kar deh ko.
Arre bhai, this is all about politics and deeply entrenched vested interests. Take the JuD for example. How are they surviving? Apart from the money they receive from the government of Punjab, they earn millions by way of donations for the 'cause of liberating Kashmir'. The sheeple think the JuD will deliver Kashmir to Pakistan and so fill up their coffers with huge amounts of dosh.

Now think what would happen if the Kashmir imbroglio is sorted out? What would happen to the JuD? Where will the money come from for their survival? They'd go bust! So they will want the Kashmir dispute to fester. It's their oxygen.

Similarly there are dozens of NGOs who survive on the Kashmir dispute. They'd all go bankrupt if the issue is solved. Thus, they'll do everything to ensure that the dispute never gets solved. It's become a lucrative industry now. And if ever the Kashmir dispute is solved, they would invent another reason for conflict - like the Water treaty.

Peace therefore is a mirage at this juncture. We'd need statesmen on both sides to sort out these disputes. But unfortunately, I don't see any on the horizon. Do you?
 
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I would like to ask all the Pakistani ‘friends’ of India to tell me one ‘good’ thing that India has ever done for Pakistan, just one.

First nuclear bomb explosion by India.... 18 May 1974.
First nuclear bomb explosion by Pakistan .... On May 28, 1998

Last time i checked pakistan is not a wasteland ..
 
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All this talk of friendship with India is getting to me. I would like to ask all the Pakistani ‘friends’ of India to tell me one ‘good’ thing that India has ever done for Pakistan, just one.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kochi/Kochi-doctors-gift-Pakistani-toddler-a-healthy-heart/articleshow/29917772.cms


Jayadeva Institute of Cardiovascular Sciences and Research, Bangalore

Indian doctors help Pakistani patients - Los Angeles Times

During 2005 Earthquake

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh offers quake assistance to Pakistan. Indian and Pakistani High Commissioners are in touch regarding cooperation in relief work. India has sent 25 tonnes of relief material to Pakistan including food, blankets and medicine. Big Indian companies such as Infosys have offered aid up to $226,000. On October 12, an Ilyushin-76 cargo plane ferried across seven truckloads (about 82 tons) of army medicines, 15,000 blankets and 50 tents and returned to New Delhi. A senior airforce official also stated that they had been asked by the Indian government to be ready to fly out another similar consignment.[7] On October 14, India dispatched the second consignment to relief material to Pakistan, by train through the Wagah Border. The consignment includes 5,000 blankets, 370 tents, 5 tons of plastic sheets and 12 tons of medicine. The third consignment is of medicine and relief material is being readied and will be sent shortly, also by train.[8] India also pledged $25 million as aid to Pakistan.[9]


BBC News - Pakistan accepts $5m flood aid from India

I can go on and on but i hole i have told one "good" thing .
 
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If they dont hate India, then what would be the use of Pakistan's existence.

The end of this hatred is the end of 2 nation theory.
 
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