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[MH.Yang]

Men with overflowing testosterone may naturally treat this novel as an adult novel. But for older folks, it is a great novel that describes the societal complexity with an artful stroke, no less than the "Dream of Red Mansions".

I admire people like you most that you can let people can believe you are an honest writer, even you are reading pornographic novels now.

I don't believe you read this book to learn about the complexity of society, because I'm not.

 

[REhorror]

You guys know, at least this author is 10x better than Jing Yong:
White snake and green snake are two spiritual creatures that try to ascent to a state of divinity/enlightenment like Caduceus. So... 10x better than Jin Yong!

Uh, so Green Snake/White Snake is great because they try to represent the staff carried by Hermes?

What? I think Green Snake/White Snake is okay as a mythical love story, like the Butterfly Lovers, but it's not as a great as even the worst Jin Yong novels (like Dragon Sabre and Heavenly Sword).

 

[MH.Yang]

That'll be a real shame.

Lu Xu is good but his works are a reflection of his time. Jin Yong works have a mythical feelings to them, so they are timeless, like LOTR or Osamu Tezuka's Hi no Tori, even 100 years later when we are in spaceship, we still can read and understand them, because it's about human relationship, vice and virtues.

You can google the online voting results of Chinese people on the greatest writers. Similar votes have taken place hundreds of times, and the champion of each time is Lu Xun.

You need to understand that the Chinese like to reflect on their past mistakes.
You can see that almost every Chinese knows the humiliation of the Opium War, but few Chinese know the war between China and India in 1962, the PLA shelling British warships in 1949, China's support for Vietnam to expel French troops in 1951, the battle between China and the Soviet Union for treasure island in 1969, and even many Chinese don't know the Korean War.
So the Chinese people's introspection culture likes LuXun.

 

[REhorror]

You can google the online voting results of Chinese people on the greatest writers. Similar votes have taken place hundreds of times, and the champion of each time is Lu Xun.

You need to understand that the Chinese like to reflect on their past mistakes.

There are many chinese mistakes than the ones post 1900s.

Jin Yong's novels dealt with various mistakes such as the Jingkang incident, dominion by the Mongols, revolt by Li Zicheng, and various socio-cultural aspects such as the Islamic faith and Buddhism faith penetration in China, and the anti-Qing sentiments in early Qing dynasty.

Yet his novels never feel cynical or depressed (even Duke of Mount Deer or a Deadly Secret), because good triumphs against evil in the end.

 

[MH.Yang]

There are many chinese mistakes than the ones post 1900s.

Jin Yong's novels dealt with various mistakes such as the Jingkang incident, dominion by the Mongols, revolt by Li Zicheng, and various socio-cultural aspects such as the Islamic faith and Buddhism faith penetration in China, and the anti-Qing sentiments in early Qing dynasty.

Yet his novels never feel cynical or depressed (even Duke of Mount Deer or a Deadly Secret), because good triumphs against evil in the end.

An American once wrote a book, <The Chrysanthemum and The Sword>.
This book is an analysis of the Japanese, in which an article compares the personality differences between Chinese and Japanese:
The Japanese like to analyze their history of success and ignore their history of failure. The Chinese like to analyze their history of failure and ignore their history of success. So the Japanese like to publicize the Russo Japanese War, while the Chinese like to publicize the Opium War.
Therefore, the Japanese like gambling, like adventure, optimistic about the future, but lack toughness, and are easy to collapse in the face of setbacks. The Chinese are stubborn and conservative, don't like to take risks and don't want to do uncertain things, but the Chinese have the perseverance to carry things through to the end and don't like boasting.

 

[Maula Jatt]

An American once wrote a book, <chrysanthemum and knife>.
This book is an analysis of the Japanese, in which an article compares the personality differences between Chinese and Japanese:
The Japanese like to analyze their history of success and ignore their history of failure. The Chinese like to analyze their history of failure and ignore their history of success. So the Japanese like to publicize the Russo Japanese War, while the Chinese like to publicize the Opium War.
Therefore, the Japanese like gambling, like adventure, optimistic about the future, but lack toughness, and are easy to collapse in the face of setbacks. The Chinese are stubborn and conservative, don't like to take risks and don't want to do uncertain things, but the Chinese have the perseverance to carry things through to the end and don't like boasting.

He was most certainly wrong, they're considered tough (mentally not physically) every where in the world

That's thier stereotype tough, determined people

I agree the boasting part about Chinese, I always respected that but nowadays I am seeing new found arrogance but it's still nothing compared to other well to do nation s

 

[REhorror]

An American once wrote a book, <chrysanthemum and knife>.
This book is an analysis of the Japanese, in which an article compares the personality differences between Chinese and Japanese:
The Japanese like to analyze their history of success and ignore their history of failure. The Chinese like to analyze their history of failure and ignore their history of success. So the Japanese like to publicize the Russo Japanese War, while the Chinese like to publicize the Opium War.
Therefore, the Japanese like gambling, like adventure, optimistic about the future, but lack toughness, and are easy to collapse in the face of setbacks. The Chinese are stubborn and conservative, don't like to take risks and don't want to do uncertain things, but the Chinese have the perseverance to carry things through to the end and don't like boasting.

I don't think that's true considering the Tale of the Heike, the Sengoku period and the Boshin war. Even Tale of Genji was filled with sadness like Benkei and Minamoto no Yoshitsune.
The japs love to portrait failure as well, and even side with some of the losers such as the Shinsengumi.

All these stereotypes about japanese/chinese are just that stereotypes, from this forums alone, the idea of chinese not like boasting is false.

 

[MH.Yang]

He was most certainly wrong, they're considered tough (mentally not physically) every where in the world

That's thier stereotype tough, determined people

He was right.
The book was written in 1946.
Now, Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. The Japanese are really easy to collapse.
And in World War II, Japan surrendered before the U. S. army attacked its homeland. The Japanese always give up hope in advance.
Moreover, this book has been listed as an educational library by the Japanese government and it has been officially recognized by the Japanese government.

 

[Maula Jatt]

He was right.
The book was written in 1946.
Now, Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. The Japanese are really easy to collapse.
And in World War II, Japan surrendered before the U. S. army attacked its homeland. The Japanese always give up hope in advance.
Moreover, this book has been listed as an educational library by the Japanese government and it has been officially recognized by the Japanese government.

Thier stereotype needs correction than

 

[MH.Yang]

I don't think that's true considering the Tale of the Heike, the Sengoku period and the Boshin war. Even Tale of Genji was filled with sadness like Benkei and Minamoto no Yoshitsune.
The japs love to portrait failure as well, and even side with some of the losers such as the Shinsengumi.

All these stereotypes about japanese/chinese are just that stereotypes, from this forums alone, the idea of chinese not like boasting is false.

The Japanese worship death, but escape failure. So their losers commit suicide. Do you think suicide is brave?

You can google this book. It is an officially recognized educational book in Japan.

<The Chrysanthemum and The Sword>

 

[REhorror]

The Japanese worship death, but escape failure. So their losers commit suicide. Do you think suicide is brave?

You can google this book. It is an officially recognized educational book in Japan.

<The Chrysanthemum and The Sword>

I do agree with the japs being easily depressed which leading to suicide.
I just don't agree that japs literature portrait mostly successes, that's wrong.

 

[MH.Yang]

I do agree with the japs being easily depressed which leading to suicide.
I just don't agree that japs literature portrait mostly successes, that's wrong.

The American is not wrong. The Japanese like to analyze their history of success because they like to gambling.
They are always gambling, even taking the fate of the country to gambling. And every time they are throw a sprat to catch a herring.
In 1894, they bet with the Qing Dynasty that they won the Qing-Japanese war. In 1904, they bet with Russia that they won the Russo-Japanese war.
In 1937, World War II, they bet again, and everyone knew the result of that time.
Japan is an island country with barren land and many volcanoes. If the Japanese want to succeed, they must bet. If they want to bet, they must publicize the history of success.

f you have been to Japan, you will find pinball machines for gambling everywhere. Japanese television and movies are also promoting gambling. Even the children's animation <Crayon Shin-chan> has the scene of Shin-chan's family playing the gambling machine.


If you want to know the real Japanese, I suggest you go to JapanYahoo and 2CH websites. See what the Japanese like to talk about. Japan Qing war, Japan Russia war, Japan's economic boom era and so on.

 

[REhorror]

The American is not wrong. The Japanese like to analyze their history of success because they like to gambling.
They are always gambling, even taking the fate of the country to gambling. And every time they are throw a sprat to catch a herring.
In 1894, they bet with the Qing Dynasty that they won the Qing-Japanese war. In 1904, they bet with Russia that they won the Russo-Japanese war.
In 1937, World War II, they bet again, and everyone knew the result of that time.
Japan is an island country with barren land and many volcanoes. If the Japanese want to succeed, they must bet. If they want to bet, they must publicize the history of success.

f you have been to Japan, you will find pinball machines for gambling everywhere. Japanese television and movies are also promoting gambling. Even the children's animation <Crayon Shin-chan> has the scene of Shin-chan's family playing the gambling machine.

Well, as I said, if you read japanese literature and their historical texts, you would know it's depressing.
Feel free to check them out.

 

[MH.Yang]

Well, as I said, if you read japanese literature and their historical texts, you would know it's depressing.
Feel free to check them out.

That's Japanese literature, not Japanese history. It is too far away from modern Japanese, which is different from Japanese historical propaganda.
The Japanese cannot feel their failure from those story. Its essence is to publicize death, not failure.
For example, do you think the Việt Nam khai quốc chí truyện is the same as the Vietnam War?

 

[REhorror]

That's Japanese literature, not Japanese history. It is too far away from modern Japanese, which is different from Japanese historical propaganda.
The Japanese cannot feel their failure from those story. Its essence is to publicize death, not failure.
For example, do you think the Việt Nam khai quốc chí truyện is the same as the Vietnam War?

Uh, but we are talking about japanese literature and historical text, no? Not just their modern history.
If we talk modern history, we will see chinese boasting about the Korean war or vietnamese boasting about Vietnam war.