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Hundreds 'likely killed' in Myanmar crackdown on Rohingya Muslims

Oh of course u'll buy me a suicide vest, isnt that what ur intel agencies and mosad and cia been doing for the past 15 yrs, giving suicide vests to goons high on hasish and brainwashed through advanced psychitric techs huh, have their handlers pose as muslims???, invade muslim countries, gain control of the areas and then start fake jihadi organizations to disrepresent and tarnish islam globally?? Just because islam was spreading extremely fast in the west hence threatening their christianity and racist ideal so they needed to counter that??, do u even know that jihad cannot be declared in islam by individuals and small groups but only a full fledged state can do that??, dont u even know while commiting jihad muslims are forbidden by our prophet(pbuh) and the quran to kill women, children,elderly and all those who dont fight, even treatment of surrendering enemy combatants is compulsary??,dont u know that jihad is only defensive never offensive, we have to spread islam by logic and reason and if someone threatens the preachers and local muslim populations only than is jihad launched and that too when the state declares it, u know nothing about islam yet act as an expert on the topic, im seriously frustrated at u hindus, had it not been for kashmir which is a muslim land occupied by you, we would've no reason to fight, the east could've been powerful and could've dominated the west but the british were too smart for it werent they, they left the kashmr issue to keeo bith sides fucked up, it u who are in the wrong, withdraw from kashmir, let ego go and this area can become an epitome of peace and prosperity, just imagine, pakistan, russia, china, iran, all the other south asian states as allies , the west and the americans will lick our shoes but u dont want that do u, u want to remain as western slaves, maybe u like it..

This forum is not a platform to discuss what Quran says, but you guys don't seem to follow all the nice things that might have been said in Quran. You claim Islam to be a 'religion of peace', then just look into the history of Islamic nations in last 1400 years and tell me where is 'peace'? Name a religious community with which you don't have any problem, can you? Forget other religions, Muslim hardliners don't even tolerate different sects of their own religion!

And what about Muslim land? What you claim as 'Muslim land' was some other community's land at some point, if Muslims taking those lands was valid, then some other community taking that land now is also valid.

And you guys feel that the muslims are not peaceful? LOL, no one gives a flying fak about your feelings. No one...

Is it? Then don't do such breast beating over America or some European countries screening/banning Muslim immigration.
 
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This forum is not a platform to discuss what Quran says, but you guys don't seem to follow all the nice things that might have been said in Quran. You claim Islam to be a 'religion of peace', then just look into the history of Islamic nations in last 1400 years and tell me where is 'peace'? Name a religious community with which you don't have any problem, can you? Forget other religions, Muslim hardliners don't even tolerate different sects of their own religion!

And what about Muslim land? What you claim as 'Muslim land' was some other community's land at some point, if Muslims taking those lands was valid, then some other community taking that land now is also valid.



Is it? Then don't do such breast beating over America or some European countries screening/banning Muslim immigration.
The people who say islam is a religion of peace are idiots who know jack shit about islam, islam was and never will be a religion of peace cause peace comes at the cost of compromise with evil, islam always was and will remain the religion of justice not peace and we never took anyone's land, before us the greatest power were the romans yet when they left thier ideaologies went with them beacusd they were occupiers, where ever islam went it never left as majority of local populations accepted it and dont rant about forces conversion its just not possible on that large a scale, take iran, syria, iraq, turkey, africa, india etc all have huge muslim population now, the arabs were so selflesd that they shifted the capital of the empire to baghdad in just the 3rd caliphate from medina, imagine the romans shifting their capital to occupied gaul or the british shifting their capital to india from london, grow up, ur new affair with the americans will destory u utterly, u will be left alone im this region and believe me americans literaly abandon their allies when the going gets though, they just run away shouting excuses, you even pushed ur all weather friend russia into our arms with this shit, u people are dellusional , u dont seem to realize that slowly u are bieng surrounded by enemies but ofcourse ur too stupid to realize that ofcourse and anyhow i will decide where and when to debate what the quran says and what it doesnt, i just made this forum what i deem it to be, anyways u totally ignored my qiestion about sll these terrorist groups sponsored by foriegn intels, seems like a hypocritte running with tail between legs and u moron we literally introduced the concepts of minority rights and freedom of speech etc, learn how minorities were treated under muslim caliphates when christians were burning infidels and witches at the stake in europe, learn how the local hindu population in sindh declared muhammad bin qasim a devta due to his treatment of locals after succesfuly conquering sindh, when great powers arise they project thier ideology all around the globe thats how its always been, the romans did it, the british did it so we were bound to do it too, the difference was that we didnt enslave local populations and gave them rights, dont u know how many hindus were posted in the darbar of akbar??, now imagine the british giving hindus posts in their royal court when they occupied india, learn about how under the muslim rule in spain a large number of ministers and officials were jewish, islamic empires of old were the first inovaters of modern science, even the west accepts that thier age of enlightment was triggered by ibn e khaldun a muslim philosopher, many western countries accept that they took many things from umar(ra) secong caliph of islam on thier system of govt..
 
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It's kinda funny how the Burmese hate Bengalis, but read their holy scriptures in Pali :lol:
Bengali is de-facto the closest living language to Pali, and majority of its vocabulary is from Pali. We have had Buddhism in our lands long before the Bamars became so. In fact, the Barua community in Chittagong has been Buddhist since the dawn of Buddhism, and they're ethnically Bengali.
 
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LOL at all the trolls unable to have a discussion and clamouring for a truth ban (a la Rain man) :D

@Aung Zaya

LOL, Indians will do anything to justify mass-rape and genocide of rohingyas. :disagree:

Yeah like providing Myanmar with such goodies:

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Oh wait, that is from your self-declared best friend....ooops....who haven't said one word of anger or protest against Myanmar's actions on the illegal BD immigrants (self styled rohingya) (double ooooops) ....much less call it genocide (which even BD govt has not called it)....triple ooops.

Such reality facepalm on the BeeDee troll community is a glorious sight.
 
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LOL at all the trolls unable to have a discussion and clamouring for a truth ban (a la Rain man) :D

@Aung Zaya



Yeah like providing Myanmar with such goodies:

Jack-K-Frost.jpg


Oh wait, that is from your self-declared best friend....ooops....who haven't said one word of anger or protest against Myanmar's actions on the illegal BD immigrants (self styled rohingya) (double ooooops) ....much less call it genocide (which even BD govt has not called it)....triple ooops.

Such reality facepalm on the BeeDee troll community is a glorious sight.


How are they "Bangladeshi immigrants" if the community itself has been documented centuries before the creation of Bangladesh? Even during WWII, it's noted how the British used the Rohingyas as a counterweight against Arakanese who supported the invading Japanese.

Also, illegal immigrant or not, I'm not sure how fellow humans can support the suffering of others. I won't generalise all Indians though, because most of them are nice people, but people like you need to be locked up in a cellar for life.
 
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How are they "Bangladeshi immigrants" if the community itself has been documented centuries before the creation of Bangladesh? Even during WWII, it's noted how the British used the Rohingyas as a counterweight against Arakanese who supported the invading Japanese.

They originate from your swamp, they were unable to get along and integrate with the Burmese after ample opportunity was given....so now they get the natural result of their choice....just like you lot got your result in 1971 from the choice you made in 1947.

It will be made clear to all neutral observers in this topic:

https://defence.pk/threads/rohingya-insurgency-in-western-myanmar.476308/

It will be a good slap on your collective faces. Just like the UN not declaring any genocide in the area. Just like China (who you dream about being your best friend and ally) and now Pakistan continuing to arm the Myanmar military. That is the eternal fate of BD, to receive slaps, one after the other. Whether you recognise them as such is of no concern to those administering them.

Also, illegal immigrant or not, I'm not sure how fellow humans can support the suffering of others.

Where did I support suffering without context? Suffering is a consequence of (bad) choices you as a people make. It is prudent for any neutral to understand the context first (which a person like you would be naturally unable to do given you are one of the parties in the conflict and thus hold an impregnable bias) and that will obviously be misconstrued as supporting suffering for suffering sake by those that cannot make a reasonable argument because of bias.

I won't generalise all Indians though, because most of them are nice people, but people like you need to be locked up in a cellar for life.

Lets be glad that BD will remain an irrelevant sewer then that controls/dictates diddly squat (in many cases within its own country)....much less what its weak constituents desire and want on foreign intellectual superiors.
 
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...tating-abuse-against-rohingya-myanmar-forces/
UN condemns 'devastating' abuse against Rohingya by Myanmar forces

Watch | UN condemns Myanmar forces of gang rapes, slaughter of babies in crackdown on Muslims 01:55
5 February 2017 • 2:55pm
Myanmar security forces are "very likely" to have committed crimes against humanity against Rohingya Muslims in recent months, U.N. human rights investigators said.

They cited an unprecedented upsurge in violence such as gang rape and brutal killings of children as young as 8 months old, at times before the eyes of their own mothers.

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Myanmar PM Aung-San-Suu-Kyi Credit: STR/STR
At a press conference in Geneva, a UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights spokesperson said the Rohinghya minority had been victims of "Mass gang-rapes, killings – including of babies and young children, brutal beatings, disappearances and other serious human rights violations."


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The report is based on harrowing accounts from over 200 people among an estimated 66,000 Rohingya who have fled to neighbouring Bangladesh since October, when Myanmar's military began a crackdown following attacks on border posts.

The UN said the vast majority witnessed killings and half of the women interviewed said they had been victims of sexual violence.

Watch | Malaysian PM: 'enough is enough' on Muslim killings in Myanmar 01:11

The report's authors said most of the people interviewed accused the security forces, not civilians, of the crimes.

Some 300-thousand Rohingya Muslims have lived in Bangladesh for decades after fleeing there from Myanmar in the face of persecution by its military and majority Buddhists.

Myanmar authorities have been presented with the allegations in the report, but have not immediately responded.

The report is likely to raise pressure on the governing party of Nobel Peace Prize-winning Aung San Suu Kyi amid allegations that soldiers have been killing and raping Rohingya and burning their homes.
 
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I think its time Madame Suu Kyi did the honorable thing.

a) Leave Myanmar to the MM junta and go back to the West.
b) Renounce the Nobel Prize as she failed to uphold even the basic principles she was awarded the peace prize for (such as unequivocally acknowledging that the Rohingya are Myanmar citizens).

She is _only_ being used as a 'front' and a pawn by the MM Junta for no good reason and for 'legitimizing' / whitewashing racism and religious discrimination in Myanmar. Sad.

The world (including ASEAN) has agreed on certain civilized principles governing their countries and Myanmar cannot be an exception to those rules. The ASEAN member countries must decide on if Myanmar will still be a member of ASEAN (Malaysia and Indonesia already have made up their minds).
 
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I think its time Madame Suu Kyi did the honorable thing.

a) Leave Myanmar to the MM junta and go back to the West.
b) Renounce the Nobel Prize as she failed to uphold even the basic principles she was awarded the peace prize for (such as unequivocally acknowledging that the Rohingya are Myanmar citizens).

She is _only_ being used as a 'front' and a pawn by the MM Junta for no good reason and for 'legitimizing' / whitewashing racism and religious discrimination in Myanmar. Sad.

The world (including ASEAN) has agreed on certain civilized principles governing their countries and Myanmar cannot be an exception to those rules. The ASEAN member countries must decide on if Myanmar will still be a member of ASEAN (Malaysia and Indonesia already have made up their minds).

Keep dreaming. You forget who Aung San Suu Kyi's father is and what he means still to the Burmese.

Su Kyi is not a sellout, she will stay with her country and disappoint irrelevant BeeDees to the end of her days.

Not one sanction will fall upon Myanmar, from ASEAN, China, India or the world at large w.r.t rohingya actions. Go have a cry about it.

Thailand for example is expanding its economic cooperation with Myanmar, as are China and India. China which turns you BD defence lot doe eyed about everything it does in BD, continues to arm Myanmar to the teeth. BD cannot even ask them to pick a side lol.
 
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I think its time Madame Suu Kyi did the honorable thing.

a) Leave Myanmar to the MM junta and go back to the West.
b) Renounce the Nobel Prize as she failed to uphold even the basic principles she was awarded the peace prize for (such as unequivocally acknowledging that the Rohingya are Myanmar citizens).

She is _only_ being used as a 'front' and a pawn by the MM Junta for no good reason and for 'legitimizing' / whitewashing racism and religious discrimination in Myanmar. Sad.

The world (including ASEAN) has agreed on certain civilized principles governing their countries and Myanmar cannot be an exception to those rules. The ASEAN member countries must decide on if Myanmar will still be a member of ASEAN (Malaysia and Indonesia already have made up their minds).

Bangladesh should push for chapter 7 invocation UN human rights commission and forward the case to international crime tribunal from UN. Madam Su Ki bent over already sensing the threat of being prosecuted there.
 
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Bangladesh should push for chapter 7 invocation UN human rights commission and forward the case to international crime tribunal from UN. Madam Su Ki bent over already sensing the threat of being prosecuted there.

Yeah do it! BD STRONK!
 
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Devastating cruelty against Rohingya children, women and men detailed in UN human rights report

GENEVA (3 February 2017) – Mass gang-rape, killings – including of babies and young children, brutal beatings, disappearances and other serious human rights violations by Myanmar’s security forces in a sealed-off area north of Maungdaw in northern Rakhine State have been detailed in a new UN report issued Friday based on interviews with victims across the border in Bangladesh.

Of the 204 people individually interviewed by a team of UN human rights investigators, the vast majority reported witnessing killings, and almost half reported having a family member who was killed as well as family members who were missing. Of the 101 women interviewed, more than half reported having suffered rape or other forms of sexual violence.

Especially revolting were the accounts of children – including an eight-month old, a five-year-old and a six-year-old – who were slaughtered with knives. One mother recounted how her five-year-old daughter was trying to protect her from rape when a man “took out a long knife and killed her by slitting her throat.” In another case, an eight-month-old baby was reportedly killed while his mother was gang-raped by five security officers.

“The devastating cruelty to which these Rohingya children have been subjected is unbearable – what kind of hatred could make a man stab a baby crying out for his mother’s milk. And for the mother to witness this murder while she is being gang-raped by the very security forces who should be protecting her – what kind of ‘clearance operation’ is this? What national security goals could possibly be served by this?” High Commissioner Zeid said, noting the report suggests the recent level of violence to be unprecedented.

“I call on the international community, with all its strength, to join me in urging the leadership in Myanmar to bring such military operations to an end. The gravity and scale of these allegations begs the robust reaction of the international community.”

After the repeated failure of the Government of Myanmar to grant the UN Human Rights Office unfettered access to the worst-affected areas of northern Rakhine State, High Commissioner Zeid deployed a team of human rights officers to the Bangladeshi border with Myanmar, where an estimated 66,000 Rohingya have fled since 9 October 2016.

All the individuals interviewed by the team had fled Myanmar after the 9 October attacks against three border guard posts, which had prompted intense military operations and a lockdown in north Maungdaw. The military indicated that it was conducting “area clearance operations” in the region.

The report cites consistent testimony indicating that hundreds of Rohingya houses, schools, markets, shops, madrasas and mosques were burned by the army, police and sometimes civilian mobs. Witnesses also described the destruction of food and food sources, including paddy fields, and the confiscation of livestock.

“Numerous testimonies collected from people from different village tracts…confirmed that the army deliberately set fire to houses with families inside, and in other cases pushed Rohingyas into already burning houses,” the report states. “Testimonies were collected of several cases where the army or Rakhine villagers locked an entire family, including elderly and disabled people, inside a house and set it on fire, killing them all.”

Several people were killed in indiscriminate and random shooting, many while fleeing for safety. Those who suffered serious physical injuries had almost no access to emergency medical care, and many of the people interviewed remained visibly traumatized by the human rights violations they survived or witnessed. People who did not know the fate of loved ones who had been rounded up by the army or separated while fleeing were particularly distressed.

Many witnesses and victims also described being taunted while they were being beaten, raped or rounded up, such as being told “you are Bangladeshis and you should go back” or “What can your Allah do for you? See what we can do?” The violence since 9 October follows a long-standing pattern of violations and abuses; systematic and systemic discrimination; and policies of exclusion and marginalization against the Rohingya that have been in place for decades in northern Rakhine State, the report notes.*

Reports suggest that operations by security forces in the area have continued into January 2017, although their intensity and frequency may have reduced.

“The killing of people as they prayed, fished to feed their families or slept in their homes, the brutal beating of children as young as two and an elderly woman aged 80 – the perpetrators of these violations, and those who ordered them, must be held accountable,” High Commissioner Zeid said. “The Government of Myanmar must immediately halt these grave human rights violations against its own people, instead of continuing to deny they have occurred, and accepts the responsibility to ensure that victims have access to justice, reparations and safety.”

The report concludes that the widespread violations against the Rohingya population indicate the very likely commission of crimes against humanity.

ENDS

* To read the full report, please visit: http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/MM/FlashReport3Feb2017.pdf

- See more at: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=21142&LangID=E#sthash.GIOaKEPI.dpuf

To those Zahil Morons endorsing this Myanmarese cruelty - this is a crime against 'humanity' you stupid bigots. It's not just the Bangladeshis crying about it - the whole world is. Shame on the UN and shame on these so-called first world countries. Your day will come too - one day.......

Indian trolls stay out of this - you haven't been asked to speak........once again - everyone 'ignore' the smelly Indian trolls..................

How are they "Bangladeshi immigrants" if the community itself has been documented centuries before the creation of Bangladesh? Even during WWII, it's noted how the British used the Rohingyas as a counterweight against Arakanese who supported the invading Japanese.

Also, illegal immigrant or not, I'm not sure how fellow humans can support the suffering of others. I won't generalise all Indians though, because most of them are nice people, but people like you need to be locked up in a cellar for life.

Bhai don't tag or reply to trolls - it only legitimizes their behavior......
 
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Your day will come too - one day.......

No it wont. I hope that keeps you up at night crying and wailing.

I certainly hope the day isn't far when BD illegals in India are pushed out violently if needed. They are being counted, collected and cordoned right now in Assam....next phase will be underway shortly.

Indian trolls stay out of this - you haven't been asked to speak

So what bad boy? What you going to do? We will speak whenever we damn well please to uncover yet another Beedee hoax of claimed genocide....and simultaneous BD STRONK deflation.

Weaklings dont get to dictate to anyone who can and can't speak on a matter.
 
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Is it? Then don't do such breast beating over America or some European countries screening/banning Muslim immigration.
LOL, we dont need to do that. Our proxies will do it for us.

Now enjoy the mass-rape and genocide with your burmese brothers.

LOL at all the trolls unable to have a discussion and clamouring for a truth ban (a la Rain man) :D

@Aung Zaya



Yeah like providing Myanmar with such goodies:

Jack-K-Frost.jpg


Oh wait, that is from your self-declared best friend....ooops....who haven't said one word of anger or protest against Myanmar's actions on the illegal BD immigrants (self styled rohingya) (double ooooops) ....much less call it genocide (which even BD govt has not called it)....triple ooops.

Such reality facepalm on the BeeDee troll community is a glorious sight.
LOL, I dont see any Chinese cheering for the mass-rape and genocide of rohingya peoples. Only supapawa Indians are supporting and justifying this kind of inhuman crime.

Oh wait, now these days Indian got a nice nick name, the "rapeistan". And it is obvious that a "rapeistani" will support mass-rape and bonus genocide. Especially if it is against the Muslims...
 
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LOL, I dont see any Chinese cheering for the mass-rape and genocide of rohingya peoples.

No one is cheering for any of that moron. God you are dumb. We are all questioning the veracity (everything is witnessed based) and claimed scale of these actions and lack of information, context and perspective from the Burmese side. Such refugee propaganda has been used multiple times in multiple places before...the UN has even fallen victim to it plenty of times....hence they are guarded in all their statements.

There is a reason why even your govt hasn't labelled it as a genocide.

Go start some rampal style protests for SHW to label it a genocide instead of replying to me you twerp and insinuating falsehoods ala 1971 "3 million" genocide claim. Make better use of your time.

Not one celebrity anywhere has given a damn about it...but they were all running to Darfur after it happened. Ask yourself why that is dummy.....there is no genocide plain and simple.

Now enjoy more military contracts and sales China makes with Burma. Burma getting from China, Pakistan, India and more and more suppliers while rohingya get pushed back to where they belong (you)....that must really hurt your nads hard!
 
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