Human rights issues in Gilgit-Baltistan, AJK raised at UN Published June 25, 2015 | By admin

[Zibago]

Nope. I know you have hatred for Hindus.

Hindus not so much but occupying hindu forces in kashmir

 

[Bilal.]

already replied.


Then you have to use IAK.

This is PDF. Look at the thread title change to understand the forum policy.

 

[Ajit Kumar]

This is PDF. Look at the thread title change to understand the forum policy.

Its an international forum.

Hindus not so much but occupying hindu forces in kashmir

Off topic post.

 

[Zibago]

Off topic post.

That is what the Kashmir dispute is all about Hindus occupying Muslim territory

 

[Bilal.]

Its an international forum.

Look at the title change.

 

[Ajit Kumar]

Look at the title change.

That is wrong.

That is what the Kashmir dispute is all about Hindus occupying Muslim territory

again off topic.

 

[Devil Soul]

Only statements . you are just giving statements. Show me one non-muslim non-pakistani source with a non-muslim writer who says this, by quoting non-muslims statement.

That pretty much sums up ur mentality, ... adios amigo .....

 

[Ajit Kumar]

That pretty much sums up ur mentality, ... adios amigo .....

Again selective quoting. You should have read the comments before where others posters have bring the issue that " I am a Muslim" and Hindu occupied Kashmir etc. Being selective will not help.

 

[Devil Soul]

Again selective quoting. You should have read the comments before where others posters have bring the issue that " I am a Muslim" and Hindu occupied Kashmir etc. Being selective will not help.

Ur previous post is enough to make one understand whos is being selective, if you want to believe, believe it, if no than thats not my problem..... i'm done with this useless discussion...

 

[Ajit Kumar]

Ur previous post is enough to make one understand whos is being selective, if you want to believe, believe it, if no than thats not my problem..... i'm done with this useless discussion...

Then dont quote. Does not matter to me. Stay on topic. And dont be selective. If posters bring muslim card, then I am sure everyone else is allowed to bring non-muslim card.

 

[Devil Soul]

Then dont quote. Does not matter to me. Stay on topic. And dont be selective. If posters bring muslim card, then I am sure everyone else is allowed to bring non-muslim card.

Awww, so ur feeling got hurt... i feel for you.. next time go hit the REPORT button... i am sure u know where its located

 

[WAJsal]

“Exploitation of natural resources in Gilgit-Baltistan and so-called Azad Kashmir has deprived the natives of the region from their own natural wealth. Pakistan is involved in plundering of natural resources of region without the consultation of local population. Islamabad is constructing mega dams, proposed China Pakistan Economic Corridor project which runs across our region before it enters Pakistan. Mega projects in a disputed territory of Kashmir are a clear violation of international laws and UNCIP resolutions on Kashmir,” he added.

I have already answered this. GB and Kashmir's are doing much better than rest of the country in many fields. refer to post number 7. Human rights issues in Gilgit-Baltistan, AJK raised at UN Published June 25, 2015 | By admin

Nasir also raised the issue of arrest of nationalist leaders during the elections in Gilgit Baltistan.

Most of these so called nationalist leaders were breaking the code of conduct, they weren't the only one's to be arrested, they were arrested along with many other independent candidates, clearly this man knows nothing. Again such nationalist leaders were allowed to contest in the elections. There was only one report of wrongly arrested, he too was soon freed. Please don't feed yourselves lies.

The nationalist leaders from Pakistan administered Kashmir allege that Islamabad has been exploiting vast resources from the region whereas the indigenous people are living a miserable life.

Wrong Gilgitis and Kashmiris are doing well in many fields and are economic wise are doing very fine. Let's not forget the literacy rate, crime rate, etc, etc. This is complete propaganda. GB is a major tourist attraction, through which locals earn a lot, crops are grown through which again locals earn. Miserable life's? what is this, stop this propaganda. We may not be the richest or living a luxury life, but we certainly aren't living a miserable life. Yes life in mountains is tough.
CPEC will open many opportunities, better times ahead.

Separately, a series of attacks on Shiite Muslim communities in Pakistan during the year killed a number of GB residents, leading to protests in GB itself, and deadly sectarian clashes struck the territory in December. In June, Islamist extremists killed a group of foreign tourists preparing to climb a mountain in GB.

Security situation like in any other part of the country, unfortunately. State had nothing to do with these sectarian killings, as usually given an impression. That being said take a look at current situation, GB and AJK are undoubtedly the peace region in the country.

Pakistan seized control of both AJK and GB following the partition of British India in 1947. The former enjoys nominal self-government, while Pakistan assumed direct administration of the latter. Pakistan never formally incorporated either territory, leaving them neither sovereign nor a province of Pakistan. Instead the relationship has been determined by various provisional arrangements pending a final settlement of the dispute with India. Article 1 of the constitution of Pakistan, which defines the territories of the country, obliquely refers to these areas as “such States and territories as are or may be included in Pakistan, whether by accession or otherwise.”

Pakistan never seized GB or AJK, as far as GB is concerned GB acceded itself with Pakistan. Show's this report is full of crap, basic history is wrongly mentioned.
How Gilgit-Baltistan got liberated .
an extract ,"On November 1, 1947 Gilgit-Baltistan became a republic and 15 days later acceded to Pakistan .Through a jointly formed armed struggle of the local people, the Gilgit Scouts and the Muslim officers of the Maharaja’s army, the area was liberated on November 1, 1947 and an interim government constituted under Raja Shah Rais Khan of Gilgit.The main reason being that: the people wanted to be a part of Pakistan but the governor had other plans, and then what the chain of reaction that unfold. "

As far as rigging allegations are concerned, completely baseless, considering GB and AJK elections are always peaceful, take the most recent held election as an example.

The interim constitution of AJK bans political parties that do not endorse the territory’s eventual accession to Pakistan, and government employees must declare loyalty to the cause of accession. Similar rules prevail in GB, meaning nationalist leaders and parties are denied access to the political process and public employment. Those who oppose Pakistani rule are also subject to surveillance, harassment, and sometimes imprisonment.

Lies, again. harassment, lol.

Accountability and transparency are hampered by the two territories’ lack of representation in the federal government. Because Pakistan maintains that their final status cannot be decided until a UN-sponsored plebiscite is held for the whole disputed region, the two units are left in constitutional limbo and do not enjoy the same rights as other provinces. They do not have seats in the Pakistan Parliament or

AJK does have seats, only GB doesn't. That too is being worked on. Our political and constitutional problem is again an internal affair.

The pre-1947 princely state of Jammu and Kashmir barred outsiders from seeking permanent residence or naturalization. In the 1970s, this rule was abolished in GB, opening it up to immigration from different parts of Pakistan. The Sunni Muslim share of the population has since increased significantly. State agencies are suspected of deliberately engineering a demographic change in the sparsely populated Shiite-majority region. Under the 2009 GBESGO, the settlers were given formal citizenship rights in GB. The pre-1947 restrictions on acquiring citizenship are still in place in AJK.

Completely wrong, again. Shite population is growing in that region. Neither are Ismailis or Shites are being targeted in that region, in anyway.

Pakistan is an Islamic republic and has numerous restrictions on religious freedoms, including blasphemy laws, that are also enforced in AJK and GB. In recent years, sectarian violence predominantly targeting the Shiite community has increased. Sectarian tensions are sharper in GB, a Shiite-majority region. A series of large-scale attacks on Shiite communities throughout Pakistan in 2013 killed some residents of GB, leading to protests and strikes in the region. Sectarian clashes in December left three people dead and several others injured. A 2012 code of conduct enacted by the GBLA aimed to curb sectarian violence by banning prayer leaders from issuing edicts against other sects, but it has not been effectively enforced.

Old report, enough said. The attacks have significantly dropped, hardly any attack in last couple of months.

Custodial torture and intimidation of independence supporters and other activists have been reported. In GB, a nascent free Balwaristan movement, seeking independence for GB and neighboring areas under Chinese control, has been crushed ruthlessly.

It's a terrorist organization or was, which has died out. They didn't speak for the majority or we would have heard of some sort of chaos in the region.

Educational opportunities in the region are limited. Academics are not free of political indoctrination. Any expression of views contradicting the official line on the region’s status can invite censure and even legal action. Student union activity has long been under state surveillance for signs of nationalist political views. Local languages and scripts are not taught in government schools. In many areas of GB, there are no schools for girls. Government teachers are paid very low wages. AJK benefits from higher overall literacy rates and better education facilities than those in GB.

Lies again, literacy rate is quite astonishing in that region. Poor attempt.Infrastructure is quite poor i agree, overall quite acceptable in AJK and GB. under surveillance, lol.

The militant groups have been able to expand their influence in both AJK and GB. The Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and its affiliates have frequently targeted the Shiite population. In June 2013, the TTP killed a group of 10 foreign mountaineers and their Pakistani guide in the Nanga Parbat base camp. In another attack in August, the militants killed security officials who were investigating the crime. TTP claimed that the attack on foreigners was in retaliation for the killing of their leader, Waliur Rehman, in a U.S. drone strike in Pakistan’s tribal areas. A number of foreign climbing expeditions were canceled as a result.

GB is the most peaceful region in the country, with the sort of security situation in those tough times, what happened was bound to happen. Again situation has improved immensely. Hardly any terrorist activity report in a year or so.

The status of women varies between AJK and GB. Instances of violence against women and honor killings are rarer in the former. At least 12 honor crimes in GB were reported in the media in 2013. Though the law prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex, treatment is unequal in practice. While women are legally permitted to marry without the consent of their family, they frequently face societal censure if they do so. Many women are victims of forced marriages. Inheritance laws are skewed heavily against women, who in most cases receive far less than their rightful share. In remote areas of GB there have been instances in which Islamist militants target women who work outside the home.

Propaganda and lies.
Watch this and cry please. Report is full of crap, women in that part of the world enjoy similar rights to men, girls are not barred from going to schools etc, etc. They are not forced to stay and work at home. I am from the region i have family in all of Gilgit, form Hunza to Skardu, Gilgit, Ghizer, Yasin. Women are free, more free than one would expect, they have a a lot of work in their hands but that doesn't stop them from socializing or contributing to the society equally.

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Another one of those reports which were made to mislead Pakistanis, complete propaganda. Read it and have a good laugh.
Bottom line all Indians should understand and respect is that Gilgitis consider themselves Pakistanis, that's why in the first place we became a part of Pakistan, not India. There is no question on our patriotism, look at the role of NLI during Zarb-e-azb or before it. GB has given many lives for the safety of our motherland(kargil, or even before it), Pakistan. Such attempts to mislead Pakistanis and in particular Gilgitis will never bring any success.