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Unlike IOK , azd kashmir is a free place. Its peacefull. We dont have to keep 7 lakh army personnel in azd kashmir to oppress the kashmiris.
again statements. Read all my comments before replying.

Read the entire article
I read. I have read such articles. you should see the name of the Author.

He is from occupied Kashmir
Read his name. I told you from any non-muslim source with non-muslim author. and there is none.
 
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You are a Punjabi and not kashmiri.

I don't need an Indian to tell me what I am!

you are lying. you said Hindu army. Hindu India etc.

India is a HINDU country! INDIAN army is HINDU! What point are you making you? Indians and their upside down logic!

First you lied and now you are justifying. That is only a point. Nothing else. But the op is a Proof that "YOUR KASHMIRI SUNNY MUSLIM" is saying that he is oppressed in Azad Kashmir. And try other conspiracy theories and try harder. You dont have any proof.

Lying is comes naturally for you. You are the one whose lying to himself with blind hatred and denies testimonies from Muslim women of IOK of being raped, from HRW, a neutral report from a non-Muslim author and source. Go and rape your own women on buses and then you'll get your victims testimony from non-Muslims. What a retard!
 
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I don't need an Indian to tell me what I am!



India is a HINDU country! INDIAN army is HINDU! What point are you making you? Indians and their upside down logic!
Nope. India is not a Hindu country. And Army is not a HINDU army. Last time you said Indian, before that HIndu, and now again Hindu.

The point is you have no source, only statements.
 
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Unlike IOK , azd kashmir is a free place. Its peacefull. We dont have to keep 7 lakh army personnel in azd kashmir to oppress the kashmiris.

kashmir both.JPG
 
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Still with peace and no human rights violations in Pakistan kashmir there is no comparison between the both.

But the freedom house report and this thread itself says otherwise .
 
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I don't need an Indian to tell me what I am!



India is a HINDU country! INDIAN army is HINDU! What point are you making you? Indians and their upside down logic!



Lying is comes naturally for you. You are the one whose lying to himself with blind hatred and denies testimonies from Muslim women of IOK of being raped, from HRW, a neutral report from a non-Muslim author and source. Go and rape your own women on buses and then you'll get your victims testimony from non-Muslims. What a retard!
Getting angry will not make your case. Again Lying. The HRW reports says they have contacted muslims only. And again you are posting off topic and bus incidence. Now tell me the author of that HRW report. Or should I tell you ?


From your source "
The conflict in Kashmir, which has its origins in the state's disputed accession to India in 1947, erupted in December 1989 when Indian government troops launched a brutal crackdown on rising violence by armed militant groups in the predominantly Muslim Kashmir valley. From the outset, that crackdown was marked by brutality against civilians, including the shooting of unarmed demonstrators, civilian massacres and summary executions of detainees. At the same time, militant groups -- who received arms and training from Pakistan --stepped up their attacks, murdering and threatening Hindu residents, carrying out kidnappings and assassinations of government officials, civil servants and
suspected informers and engaging in sabotage and bombings. In the three and a half years since the conflict began, at least 6,000, and possibly twice that number, have been killed by all sides and well over 100,000, mainly Hindus, have fled the valley. In 1992 alone, at least 2,000 were reported to have been killed . so you were lying all the time.


here are the same sources talking about Azad Kashmir.
Op is a non-hindu non indian source where a MUSLIM is saying that he is oppressed in Azad Kashmir.
Here is another non-hindu non Indian source too.

Pakistan: ‘Free Kashmir’ Far From Free | Human Rights Watch
‘I Loved Pakistan Until I Visited Pakistani Occupied Kashmir’ By Dr Shabir Choudhry
“With Friends Like These…” | Human Rights Watch

Still with peace and no human rights violations in Pakistan kashmir there is no comparison between the both.
Only statements. Here are some non-hindu non-indian sources claiming different things.
Op is also non-hindu non indian source where a MUSLIM is saying that he is oppressed in Azad Kashmir.


Pakistan: ‘Free Kashmir’ Far From Free | Human Rights Watch
‘I Loved Pakistan Until I Visited Pakistani Occupied Kashmir’ By Dr Shabir Choudhry
“With Friends Like These…” | Human Rights Watch
 
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Recently elections in GB were held. Which was one of the most peaceful election held in Pakistan, unlike IOK where people r dragged & forced to vote by forces of supapowa.....period...
 
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Getting angry will not make your case. Again Lying. The HRW reports says they have contacted muslims only. And again you are posting off topic and bus incidence. Now tell me the author of that HRW report. Or should I tell you ?


From your source "
The conflict in Kashmir, which has its origins in the state's disputed accession to India in 1947, erupted in December 1989 when Indian government troops launched a brutal crackdown on rising violence by armed militant groups in the predominantly Muslim Kashmir valley. From the outset, that crackdown was marked by brutality against civilians, including the shooting of unarmed demonstrators, civilian massacres and summary executions of detainees. At the same time, militant groups -- who received arms and training from Pakistan --stepped up their attacks, murdering and threatening Hindu residents, carrying out kidnappings and assassinations of government officials, civil servants and
suspected informers and engaging in sabotage and bombings. In the three and a half years since the conflict began, at least 6,000, and possibly twice that number, have been killed by all sides and well over 100,000, mainly Hindus, have fled the valley. In 1992 alone, at least 2,000 were reported to have been killed . so you were lying all the time.


here are the same sources talking about Azad Kashmir.
Op is a non-hindu non indian source where a MUSLIM is saying that he is oppressed in Azad Kashmir.
Here is another non-hindu non Indian source too.

Pakistan: ‘Free Kashmir’ Far From Free | Human Rights Watch
‘I Loved Pakistan Until I Visited Pakistani Occupied Kashmir’ By Dr Shabir Choudhry
“With Friends Like These…” | Human Rights Watch


LIAR! Keep reading the report. Let me help you:

http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/INDIA935.PDF

The number of rapes committed by security forces in Kashmir.
Human rights groups have documented many cases since 1990, but because many of the incidents have
occurred in remote villages, it is impossible to confirm any precise number. There can be no doubt that the
use of rape is common and routinely goes unpunished. Indian government authorities have rarely investigated charges of rape by security forces in Kashmir.

To our knowledge, the prosecution of two soldiers for the rape of a Canadian tourist in October 1990 is the
only case of criminal prosecution which the Indian government has made public. The soldiers were
sentenced to prison terms, but as of April 1993, the soldiers remained in barracks and the case was on
appeal.

While the government has claimed that inquiries have been ordered into r eports of rape and action taken against the guilty, the Indian authorities have not made public any prosecutions or punishments of security personnel in any of these cases. In some cases, the investigations fail to follow through with procedures that would provide critical evidence for any prosecution. 11 Although there is no evidence that rape is sanctioned as a matter of government policy in Kashmir, by failing to prosecute and punish those responsible, or make known any action taken against security forces charged with rape, the Indian authorities have signalled that the practice of rape is tolerated, if not condoned. Indeed, in responding to reports by the press and human rights groups about incidents of rape, government officials unfailingly attempt to dismiss the testimony of the women by accusing them of being militant sympathizers.
 
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Recently elections in GB were held. Which was one of the most peaceful election held in Pakistan, unlike IOK where people r dragged & forced to vote by forces of supapowa.....period...
Only statements . you are just giving statements. Show me one non-muslim non-pakistani source with a non-muslim writer who says this, by quoting non-muslims statement.

LIAR! Keep reading the report. Let me help you:

http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/INDIA935.PDF

The number of rapes committed by security forces in Kashmir.
Human rights groups have documented many cases since 1990, but because many of the incidents have
occurred in remote villages, it is impossible to confirm any precise number. There can be no doubt that the
use of rape is common and routinely goes unpunished. Indian government authorities have rarely investigated charges of rape by security forces in Kashmir.

To our knowledge, the prosecution of two soldiers for the rape of a Canadian tourist in October 1990 is the
only case of criminal prosecution which the Indian government has made public. The soldiers were
sentenced to prison terms, but as of April 1993, the soldiers remained in barracks and the case was on
appeal.

While the government has claimed that inquiries have been ordered into r eports of rape and action taken against the guilty, the Indian authorities have not made public any prosecutions or punishments of security personnel in any of these cases. In some cases, the investigations fail to follow through with procedures that would provide critical evidence for any prosecution. 11 Although there is no evidence that rape is sanctioned as a matter of government policy in Kashmir, by failing to prosecute and punish those responsible, or make known any action taken against security forces charged with rape, the Indian authorities have signalled that the practice of rape is tolerated, if not condoned. Indeed, in responding to reports by the press and human rights groups about incidents of rape, government officials unfailingly attempt to dismiss the testimony of the women by accusing them of being militant sympathizers.
Nope. but in your same source it is claimed that
" The conflict in Kashmir, which has its origins in the state's disputed accession to India in 1947, erupted in December 1989 when Indian government troops launched a brutal crackdown on rising violence by armed militant groups in the predominantly Muslim Kashmir valley. From the outset, that crackdown was marked by brutality against civilians, including the shooting of unarmed demonstrators, civilian massacres and summary executions of detainees. At the same time, militant groups -- who received arms and training from Pakistan --stepped up their attacks, murdering and threatening Hindu residents, carrying out kidnappings and assassinations of government officials, civil servants and
suspected informers and engaging in sabotage and bombings. In the three and a half years since the conflict began, at least 6,000, and possibly twice that number, have been killed by all sides and well over 100,000, mainly Hindus, have fled the valley. In 1992 alone, at least 2,000 were reported to have been killed . so you were lying all the time."


here are the same sources talking about Azad Kashmir.
Op is a non-hindu non indian source where a MUSLIM is saying that he is oppressed in Azad Kashmir.
Here is another non-hindu non Indian source too.

Pakistan: ‘Free Kashmir’ Far From Free | Human Rights Watch
‘I Loved Pakistan Until I Visited Pakistani Occupied Kashmir’ By Dr Shabir Choudhry
“With Friends Like These…” | Human Rights Watch
 
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here are the same sources talking about Azad Kashmir.
Op is a non-hindu non indian source where a MUSLIM is saying that he is oppressed in Azad Kashmir.
Here is another non-hindu non Indian source too.

Just read the ''reports'' all hearsay, nothing to substantiate their claims!
 
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Did the report hurt you ?? lol

I did not write it ..... It is from Freedom House ....... So go and whine to them .

PS : This is an open forum not your house .... so keep the adjectives you call your family members to yourself .
A report which clearly has many flaws. I can somewhat pinpoint many. Ergo my point proved the report is full of crap, basic history mentioned is incorrect. And you are educating yourself with such stupidity, enough said.
Sorry about that, but that's what you feel when someone say's shit about your motherland, yes i'm a Gilgiti.
 
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Just read the ''reports'' all hearsay, nothing to substantiate their claims!
I read it and found this "

VII. VIOLATIONS BY MILITANT ORGANIZATIONS
Militant organizations operating in Kashmir have c
ommitted grave violations
of international human rights and humanitarian law.
Many of the violent attacks
committed by these groups have deliberately targete
d civilians. Among the worst
abuses have been the assassinations of hundreds of
civilians, including members of
the Hindu community, civil servants and political f
igures, particularly Muslim
political leaders associated with the National Conf
erence party and other political
groups opposed by the militants.
Militant groups have also abducted and executed ci
vilians, both Hindu and
Muslim, whom they have accused of being government
informers or of otherwise
supporting the government of India.
148
In many cases, those accused of being
informers have first been detained for interrogatio
n and torture by the militant
group. Execution generally follows a summary "heari
ng", during which the
detainee is given virtually no opportunity to defen
d him or herself. Militants have
also tortured and summarily executed captured secur
ity personnel in their custody.
These executions have reportedly increased in 1992
as a deliberate form of
retaliation for the increase in custodial deaths by
Indian security forces. Militant
spokespersons have acknowledged that executions of
captured security force
personnel are carried out as a matter of policy. Su
ch summary executions constitute
grave violations of international humanitarian law.
Members of militant groups have also raped women i
n Kashmir. While there it
is not clear that militant leaders have explicitly
sanctioned such abuses, there is
little indication that the militants have done anyt
hing to stop their forces from
committing rape. Some incidents of rape by militant
s appear to have been
motivated by the fact that the victims or their fam
ilies are accused of being
informers or of being opposed to the militants or s
upporters of rival militant
groups. Some members of militant forces have also l
aunched other violent attacks
on women who do not adhere to prescribed dress code
s and other social
restrictions. These attacks, and the fact that they
are carried out with impunity, have
contributed to a climate of fear for women in Kashm
ir.
Militants have engaged in indiscriminate attacks w
hich have injured and killed
civilians. Members of militant groups have thrown g
renades at buses and used
rocket-propelled launchers to fire grenades into go
vernment buildings of the civil
administration, injuring and killing employees. Arm
ed militant groups have also
launched targeted bomb attacks against civilians in
Jammu.
Kidnappings of civilians has been a hallmark of th
e militants' efforts since the
conflict began in earnest in 1989. Militants have k
idnapped civilians and held them
as hostages for detained colleagues, or to pressure
rival militant organizations.
Militants have also kidnapped civilians in order to
extort funds from their families.
When the conflict escalated 1989, militant groups
issued widespread threats to
members of the minority Hindu community in Kashmir.
Attacks on Hindus since
1988, and particularly in early 1990, have driven m
ore than 100,000 Hindus to flee
Kashmir to Jammu and Delhi, where most remain in in
creasingly desperate
conditions in refugee camps. Tens of thousands of M
uslims have also fled. Those
militant groups which espouse an extremist Islamic
ideology have also issued
threats to persons associated with businesses they
consider "un-Islamic," including
liquor dealers and cinema hall owners. Militant gro
ups have also issued threats to
journalists whom they have accused of "biased" repo
rting.
All of these abuses constitute grave violations of
international human rights
and humanitarian law. Although some militant leader
s have issued statements
calling on their forces not to engage in criminal a
ctivities, to Asia Watch and PHR's
knowledge, the militant groups responsible for thes
e gross abuses have taken few if
any steps to end them.
Militant Operations
At least eleven major militant organizations, and
perhaps dozens of smaller
ones, operate in Kashmir. They are roughly divided
between those who support
independence and those who support accession to Pak
istan. The oldest and most
widely known militant organization, the Jammu and K
ashmir Liberation Front
(JKLF), has spearheaded the movement for an indepen
dent Kashmir. Its student
wing is the Jammu and Kashmir Students Liberation f
ront (JKSLF). A large
number of other militant organizations have emerged
since 1989, some of which
also support independence, others of which support
Kashmir's accession to
Pakistan. Although all groups reportedly receive ar
ms and training from Pakistan,
the pro-Pakistani groups are reputed to be favored
by Pakistan's military
intelligence, the Directorate of Inter-Services Int
elligence (ISI). The most powerful
of these is the Hezb-ul-Mujahidin. Other major grou
ps include Al-Jehad, Al-Barq,
Hizbollah, Ikhwan-ul-Muslimin, Jamait-ul Mujahidin,
Tekriq-ul Mujahidin, Allah
Tigers, Al-Umar Mujahidin and Al-Umar Commandos. Ac
cording to press reports,
several hundred fighters from Afghanistan and Sudan
have also joined some of the
militant groups.
149
Intense rivalries among the militant groups, and p
articularly between the
dominant groups, has sparked frequent clashes and h
as often prevented the miltants
from coordinating military operations.
150
As of mid-1993, a Coordination
Committee comprised of representatives of the leade
rs from the JKLF, Hezb-ul
Mujahidin, Iqwan Muslim, Harkat-ul-Mujaheedin; Jama
it-ul-Mujaheedin; Tahreek-
ul-Mujaheedin, Hizbollah; and Muslim Mujahidin had
assumed some judicial
oversight for the various groups, under the authori
ty of recognized legal and
religious advisors. The committee reportedly has no
written laws or regulations. It
is not known whether the committee plays any role i
n coordinating military
strategy.
The militant forces do not control territory in Ka
shmir, but certain parts of the
valley have gained a reputation as strongholds of p
articular militant groups,
particularly towns near the Line of Control which s
eparates the Indian state of
Jammu and Kashmir from the territory controlled by
Pakistan. Many of these
towns, notably Kupwara, are along the supply lines
for weaponry from Pakistan.
The Hezb-ul Mujahidin, for example, is reported to
have a dominant presence in
the town of Sopore where, according to recent press
reports, the group has claimed"


And many more.
 
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India, Press Release, Violence in Kashmir - ICRC

Rape in Kashmir: A Crime of War
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Indian security forces involved in counter-insurgency operations in Kashmir have committed rape with impunity, according to a report released today by two human rights organizations: Asia Watch, a division of the New York-based Human Rights Watch, and the Boston-based Physicians for Human Rights (PHR). The 18-page report, Rape in Kashmir: A Crime of War, is the result of a fact-finding mission in October 1992 to Kashmir by Asia Watch and PHR. It focuses on rape as a tactic of war in Kashmir, and argues that in conflict as well as non-conflict situations, the central element of rape is power. Indian security forces and militant forces in Kashmir use rape as a weapon: to punish, intimidate, coerce, humiliate and degrade their female victims. Asia Watch and PHR call for international condemnation of this crime as a violation of international human rights and humanitarian law.

Since the government crackdown against militants in Kashmir began in earnest in January 1990, reports of rape by security personnel have become more frequent. Rape most often occurs during search operations, during which the security forces frequently engage in collective punishment against the civilian population, most frequently by beating or otherwise assaulting residents, and burning their homes. Rape has also occurred frequently during reprisal attacks on civilians following militant ambushes. In some cases, the victims have been accused of providing food or shelter to militants or have been ordered to identify their male relatives as militants. In other cases, the motivation for the abuse is not explicit. In many attacks, the selection of victims is seemingly arbitrary and the women, like other civilians assaulted or killed, are targeted simply because they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. The report documents fifteen cases of rape by Indian security forces. The investigators interviewed the victims, a gynecologist who examined nine of the women, and obtained medical evidence in the cases documented in the report.

Indian government authorities have rarely investigated charges of rape by security forces in Kashmir. Although there is no evidence that this form of torture is sanctioned as a matter of government policy in Kashmir, by failing to prosecute and punish those responsible, the Indian authorities have signalled that the practice of rape is tolerated, if not condoned. Indeed, in responding to reports by the press and human rights groups about incidents of rape, government officials unfailingly attempt to dismiss the testimony of the women by accusing them of being militant sympathizers. In one case described in the report, a physician who assisted rape victims and arranged for them to be examined was detained and tortured by the security forces.

Reports of rape by militant groups in Kashmir have increased in since [sic] 1991, and the report includes information about these abuses. In some cases, women have been raped and then killed after being abducted by rival militant groups and held as hostages for their male relatives. In other cases the victims or their families are accused of being informers or of being opposed to the militants or supporters of rival militant groups. Asia Watch and PHR are also unaware of any efforts by the militant groups to prevent their forces from committing rape. In fact, some groups have continued to encourage violent attacks on women who do not conform to prescribed social behavior. In doing so, these groups help to create a climate of fear for women.

The report included recommendations to the government of India, including prosecutions of security forces responsible for rape, training on adequate evidence gathering for rape prosecutions, and protections for medical workers involved in examining and treating rape victims. The report also calls on the international community to condemn rape as a crime of war and bring pressure on all parties, including militant groups, to end this abuse. [...]
 
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India, Press Release, Violence in Kashmir - ICRC

Rape in Kashmir: A Crime of War
[...]

Indian security forces involved in counter-insurgency operations in Kashmir have committed rape with impunity, according to a report released today by two human rights organizations: Asia Watch, a division of the New York-based Human Rights Watch, and the Boston-based Physicians for Human Rights (PHR). The 18-page report, Rape in Kashmir: A Crime of War, is the result of a fact-finding mission in October 1992 to Kashmir by Asia Watch and PHR. It focuses on rape as a tactic of war in Kashmir, and argues that in conflict as well as non-conflict situations, the central element of rape is power. Indian security forces and militant forces in Kashmir use rape as a weapon: to punish, intimidate, coerce, humiliate and degrade their female victims. Asia Watch and PHR call for international condemnation of this crime as a violation of international human rights and humanitarian law.

Since the government crackdown against militants in Kashmir began in earnest in January 1990, reports of rape by security personnel have become more frequent. Rape most often occurs during search operations, during which the security forces frequently engage in collective punishment against the civilian population, most frequently by beating or otherwise assaulting residents, and burning their homes. Rape has also occurred frequently during reprisal attacks on civilians following militant ambushes. In some cases, the victims have been accused of providing food or shelter to militants or have been ordered to identify their male relatives as militants. In other cases, the motivation for the abuse is not explicit. In many attacks, the selection of victims is seemingly arbitrary and the women, like other civilians assaulted or killed, are targeted simply because they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. The report documents fifteen cases of rape by Indian security forces. The investigators interviewed the victims, a gynecologist who examined nine of the women, and obtained medical evidence in the cases documented in the report.

Indian government authorities have rarely investigated charges of rape by security forces in Kashmir. Although there is no evidence that this form of torture is sanctioned as a matter of government policy in Kashmir, by failing to prosecute and punish those responsible, the Indian authorities have signalled that the practice of rape is tolerated, if not condoned. Indeed, in responding to reports by the press and human rights groups about incidents of rape, government officials unfailingly attempt to dismiss the testimony of the women by accusing them of being militant sympathizers. In one case described in the report, a physician who assisted rape victims and arranged for them to be examined was detained and tortured by the security forces.

Reports of rape by militant groups in Kashmir have increased in since [sic] 1991, and the report includes information about these abuses. In some cases, women have been raped and then killed after being abducted by rival militant groups and held as hostages for their male relatives. In other cases the victims or their families are accused of being informers or of being opposed to the militants or supporters of rival militant groups. Asia Watch and PHR are also unaware of any efforts by the militant groups to prevent their forces from committing rape. In fact, some groups have continued to encourage violent attacks on women who do not conform to prescribed social behavior. In doing so, these groups help to create a climate of fear for women.

The report included recommendations to the government of India, including prosecutions of security forces responsible for rape, training on adequate evidence gathering for rape prosecutions, and protections for medical workers involved in examining and treating rape victims. The report also calls on the international community to condemn rape as a crime of war and bring pressure on all parties, including militant groups, to end this abuse. [...]
I think you ignored this bold part.
 
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