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"We will never to copy Western political system" declares Hu Jintao, President and party chief of China.


Anyone trying to keep track of the development of China's political system must have got an unequivocal answer at the 18th National Congress of the Communist Party of China (CPC).

Hu Jintao solemnly declared in his report at the opening of the congress that "we will never copy a Western political system."

"We should place high importance on systemic building, give full play to the strength of the socialist political system and draw on the political achievements of other societies," Hu said in the report.

He pointed out that the reform of the political structure is an important part of China's overall reform. The CPC must continue to make both active and prudent efforts to carry out reform of the political structure, and make people's democracy more extensive, fuller in scope and sounder in practice.

In the report, Hu elaborated on the importance of "keeping to the socialist path of making political advance with Chinese characteristics" and said that the CPC will promote reform of the political structure in seven respects:

-- support and ensure the exercise of state power by the people through people's congresses;

-- improve the system of socialist consultative democracy;

-- improve community-level democracy;


-- promote law-based governance of the country in an all-around way;

-- deepen reform of the administrative system;

-- establish a sound mechanism for conducting checks and oversight over the exercise of power;


-- consolidate and develop the broadest possible patriotic united front.

Liu Xuejun, a professor with the Party School of the CPC Central Committee, said the multiple arrangements clearly show that the CPC highlights and upholds the principal status of the people's democracy in political realm.

Since China initiated reform and opening up, it has made continuous progress in democracy.

In southwest China's Guizhou Province, the CPC committee and village committee of Xinshi Village spend three days every month consulting with local residents over village affairs. It was through consultation that the village decided to build more roads and determine the amount of compensation to be paid for land.

In Yuanbao Village in the northeastern province of Heilongjiang, the CPC committee has a morning meeting every day to address people's complaints and demands. Depending on importance, all village affairs have to be decided in meetings of the CPC committee, CPC members and villager representatives, or through a big gathering of all villagers.

Zhi Fen, delegate to the 18th CPC National Congress and also secretary of the CPC committee of Gaobeidian Village in Beijing, won the secretary post in a direct election by grabbing all 316 votes.

On the sidelines of the congress, Zhi told Xinhua, "I was thrilled to tears at the time (when being elected). Their ballots were affirmation of my work and brought me greater sense of duty and pressure."

Zhi said it's essential in obtaining people's trust and support at the grassroots. It requires Zhi and her colleagues to be impartial in obeying rules, put people's interests first, and consult with people on important matters in resident representative or CPC member meetings.

Dai Yanjun, a professor with the Party School of the CPC Central Committee, told Xinhua that democratic consultation will be the inevitable way for various parties of interests to find common ground as the development of the socialist market economy is bringing about a society of increasingly diverse aspirations.

Wang Huan, another congress delegate from Beijing, was impressed by the section of improving the system of socialist consultative democracy in Hu's report.

Wang, also a member of the Beijing municipal committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), said socialist consultative democracy is an important form of people's democracy in the country. The report gives a clear roadmap on how to improve the system of socialist consultative democracy.

"The report makes clear that political consultation must be incorporated into decision-making. This requirement will reinforce the effectiveness of democratic consultation and help take in more advice from different sectors of the society. All of this bears testimony to the vitality of socialist democracy," said Wang.

Xie Chuntao, a history professor with the CPC Central Committee Party School, said the momentum of democracy in China is unstoppable but must proceed with emphasis on stability and order.

Li Junru, former vice president of the CPC Central Committee Party School and a member of the CPPCC National Committee, held that the combination of electoral democracy and consultative democracy is a significant feature of the democratic development in the country over the past decade.

Democracy is always pursued within the CPC. As of July this year, the leadership reshuffle of Party committees at the provincial, city, county, and village levels had been completed. Promoting democracy and ensuring Party members' rights have featured the process of the reshuffle.

In April 2011, the secretaries of CPC committees of Wuxi, Nantong and Suqian cities of Jiangsu Province were elected through multi-candidate competitive elections.

Electoral democracy is recognized in the electoral system of lawmakers, or deputies to people's congresses, as well.

In March 2010, the National People's Congress (NPC), China's parliament, adopted an amendment to the Electoral Law with landslide votes, which grants equal representation in legislative bodies to rural and urban people.

It requires "both rural and urban areas adopt the same ratio of deputies to the represented population in elections of people's congress deputies."

In Hu's report to the CPC congress, He stressed the rule of law, saying that no organization or individual has the privilege of overstepping the Constitution and laws, and no one in a position of power is allowed in any way to take one's own words as the law, place one's own authority above the law or abuse the law.

He also asked the CPC to tighten intra-Party, democratic and legal oversight as well as oversight through public opinion to ensure that the people oversee the exercise of power and that power is exercised in a transparent manner.

"Intra-Party democracy is the life of the Party. We should adhere to democratic centralism, improve institutions for intra-Party democracy, and promote people's democracy with intra-Party democracy," Hu said.

For China's late leader Deng Xiaoping, there are three important criteria for judging the soundness of a country's political system or structure and of its policies.

First, whether the country is politically stable; second, whether the system and policies help to strengthen unity among the people and to raise their living standards; and third, whether the productive forces keep developing.

The path of socialism with Chinese characteristics, the system of theories of socialism with Chinese characteristics and the socialist system with Chinese characteristics are the fundamental accomplishments made by the Party and people in the course of arduous struggle over the past 90-plus years. These accomplishments should be upheld all the time and enriched continuously, Li Junru said.

China should draw on the political achievements of other societies during the process of promoting reform of the political structure, but it will never copy a Western political system, Li said.

China never to copy Western political system - China.org.cn


"CONSULTATIVE DEMOCRACY", that's democracy with Chinese characteristics. For the next 5 years, Xi Jinping and Li Keqiang will oversee the implementation of such democracy and I wish them to be successful.

Consultative democracy: Buried in a bleak text, hope for a Chinese political experiment | Reuters
 
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I don't see why using the word "naturalized" is a racist thing at all, maybe to you and the US law it is but to me it's not since i'm not an American nor am i living in the US. So no i am not losing face here just because it's a general word to describe a none natural born citizen.

Dude, it's not using the word "Naturalize" is racist is how you use it is racist, agains as i said before It's okay if you are referring a process but not a person. To the same extend as the word "Nigger" or "Nergo" (I apologise for using such word first). It's not the word it's inapporiate, but the way people use it make it inapporiate.

As i said in my last post, the Equal Protection Clause, you are not allow to called a Chinese American "Chinese American" does that mean the word Chinese is inapporiate?

I am just saying, if you know nothing about US Law and constitution, please do not discuss on the issue as you will lose face over it.
 
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"We will never to copy Western political system" declares Hu Jintao, President and party chief of China.


Anyone trying to keep track of the development of China's political system must have got an unequivocal answer at the 18th National Congress of the Communist Party of China (CPC).

Hu Jintao solemnly declared in his report at the opening of the congress that "we will never copy a Western political system."

"We should place high importance on systemic building, give full play to the strength of the socialist political system and draw on the political achievements of other societies," Hu said in the report.

He pointed out that the reform of the political structure is an important part of China's overall reform. The CPC must continue to make both active and prudent efforts to carry out reform of the political structure, and make people's democracy more extensive, fuller in scope and sounder in practice.

In the report, Hu elaborated on the importance of "keeping to the socialist path of making political advance with Chinese characteristics" and said that the CPC will promote reform of the political structure in seven respects:

-- support and ensure the exercise of state power by the people through people's congresses;

-- improve the system of socialist consultative democracy;

-- improve community-level democracy;


-- promote law-based governance of the country in an all-around way;

-- deepen reform of the administrative system;

-- establish a sound mechanism for conducting checks and oversight over the exercise of power;


-- consolidate and develop the broadest possible patriotic united front.

Liu Xuejun, a professor with the Party School of the CPC Central Committee, said the multiple arrangements clearly show that the CPC highlights and upholds the principal status of the people's democracy in political realm.

Since China initiated reform and opening up, it has made continuous progress in democracy.

In southwest China's Guizhou Province, the CPC committee and village committee of Xinshi Village spend three days every month consulting with local residents over village affairs. It was through consultation that the village decided to build more roads and determine the amount of compensation to be paid for land.

In Yuanbao Village in the northeastern province of Heilongjiang, the CPC committee has a morning meeting every day to address people's complaints and demands. Depending on importance, all village affairs have to be decided in meetings of the CPC committee, CPC members and villager representatives, or through a big gathering of all villagers.

Zhi Fen, delegate to the 18th CPC National Congress and also secretary of the CPC committee of Gaobeidian Village in Beijing, won the secretary post in a direct election by grabbing all 316 votes.

On the sidelines of the congress, Zhi told Xinhua, "I was thrilled to tears at the time (when being elected). Their ballots were affirmation of my work and brought me greater sense of duty and pressure."

Zhi said it's essential in obtaining people's trust and support at the grassroots. It requires Zhi and her colleagues to be impartial in obeying rules, put people's interests first, and consult with people on important matters in resident representative or CPC member meetings.

Dai Yanjun, a professor with the Party School of the CPC Central Committee, told Xinhua that democratic consultation will be the inevitable way for various parties of interests to find common ground as the development of the socialist market economy is bringing about a society of increasingly diverse aspirations.

Wang Huan, another congress delegate from Beijing, was impressed by the section of improving the system of socialist consultative democracy in Hu's report.

Wang, also a member of the Beijing municipal committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), said socialist consultative democracy is an important form of people's democracy in the country. The report gives a clear roadmap on how to improve the system of socialist consultative democracy.

"The report makes clear that political consultation must be incorporated into decision-making. This requirement will reinforce the effectiveness of democratic consultation and help take in more advice from different sectors of the society. All of this bears testimony to the vitality of socialist democracy," said Wang.

Xie Chuntao, a history professor with the CPC Central Committee Party School, said the momentum of democracy in China is unstoppable but must proceed with emphasis on stability and order.

Li Junru, former vice president of the CPC Central Committee Party School and a member of the CPPCC National Committee, held that the combination of electoral democracy and consultative democracy is a significant feature of the democratic development in the country over the past decade.

Democracy is always pursued within the CPC. As of July this year, the leadership reshuffle of Party committees at the provincial, city, county, and village levels had been completed. Promoting democracy and ensuring Party members' rights have featured the process of the reshuffle.

In April 2011, the secretaries of CPC committees of Wuxi, Nantong and Suqian cities of Jiangsu Province were elected through multi-candidate competitive elections.

Electoral democracy is recognized in the electoral system of lawmakers, or deputies to people's congresses, as well.

In March 2010, the National People's Congress (NPC), China's parliament, adopted an amendment to the Electoral Law with landslide votes, which grants equal representation in legislative bodies to rural and urban people.

It requires "both rural and urban areas adopt the same ratio of deputies to the represented population in elections of people's congress deputies."

In Hu's report to the CPC congress, He stressed the rule of law, saying that no organization or individual has the privilege of overstepping the Constitution and laws, and no one in a position of power is allowed in any way to take one's own words as the law, place one's own authority above the law or abuse the law.

He also asked the CPC to tighten intra-Party, democratic and legal oversight as well as oversight through public opinion to ensure that the people oversee the exercise of power and that power is exercised in a transparent manner.

"Intra-Party democracy is the life of the Party. We should adhere to democratic centralism, improve institutions for intra-Party democracy, and promote people's democracy with intra-Party democracy," Hu said.

For China's late leader Deng Xiaoping, there are three important criteria for judging the soundness of a country's political system or structure and of its policies.

First, whether the country is politically stable; second, whether the system and policies help to strengthen unity among the people and to raise their living standards; and third, whether the productive forces keep developing.

The path of socialism with Chinese characteristics, the system of theories of socialism with Chinese characteristics and the socialist system with Chinese characteristics are the fundamental accomplishments made by the Party and people in the course of arduous struggle over the past 90-plus years. These accomplishments should be upheld all the time and enriched continuously, Li Junru said.

China should draw on the political achievements of other societies during the process of promoting reform of the political structure, but it will never copy a Western political system, Li said.

China never to copy Western political system - China.org.cn


"CONSULTATIVE DEMOCRACY", that's democracy with Chinese characteristics. For the next 5 years, Xi Jinping and Li Keqiang will oversee the implementation of such democracy and I wish them to be successful.

Consultative democracy: Buried in a bleak text, hope for a Chinese political experiment | Reuters

Socialism IS copying the west....where do you think this style of government came from? Seems even your leaders are tards.
 
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"We will never to copy Western political system" declares Hu Jintao, President and party chief of China.
You already have. You can paint, veneer, or bling it anyway you want to convince yourself that you created something unique in the world, but the reality is that experimentation in the democratic processes and methods pretty much have been exhausted without deviating from its core values, whereas China, despite being led by a party that bears the name of a discredited ideology, has deviated far from the core values of said discredited ideology.
 
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Dude you asked what a white American obtaining a Chinese citizenship is called and i can simply call that person a naturalized Chinese. So when did i even start talking about US law? You are the one who kept talking about it not me faggot. If an American is not allowed to call a Chinese American that's their business why should i follow the Equal Protection Clause? Tell me are mainlanders not allowed to refer those as naturalized Chinese? If so show us the link to that Chinese law.
 
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Dude you asked what a white American obtaining a Chinese citizenship is called and i can simply call that person a naturalized Chinese. So when did i even start talking about US law? You are the one who kept talking about it not me faggot. If an American is not allowed to call a Chinese American that's their business why should i follow the Equal Protection Clause? Tell me are mainlanders not allowed to refer those as naturalized Chinese? If so show us the link to that Chinese law.

When you said "Using the word "naturalized" is racist huh? Americans love to use that word to grant immigrants the American nationality."

if you know anything on the US Law, you will not say something like that, i am not talking about some stupid state law even American got confused, i am talking about the US Constitution.

You splash your judgment randomly before you even know it's illegal to use the word "Naturalize" as a title to American, yet you claim we all claim anyone who gain citizenship by naturalize are Naturalized American.

Do you have pakinson or soemthing like that? Or you arejust ignorant and trying to make a Random point.

I don't know what chinese (Your definition of Chinese) think about the word "Naturalized Citizens" are apporiate, i am just saying it's not apporiate on my knowledge, and it's you who said we American keep calling people Naturalized American, i did not say that, i just simply proof to you such word is illegla in the United States. And it's racist by the standard of an American, and if you look closely, i did not say you are racist on your standard, i am reply to Gambit and say how they are racist on our standard Gambit is an American). You can class you own citizens for all i care but you hijack my reply to a fellow american and point it to the Chinese is just want to confuse other, don't try to switch attention after you bring a fail point where American label their own citizen naturalize, people have eyes and brain, they can see it

You are right, you are not a US Citizen, nor would you need to follow the Equal Protection Clause, but i also did not direct my response to you in the first pleace, you hijacked my reply to Gambit's post about how Chinese are Racist in American standard, and you turn it and trying to spin it on me. Remember, the original reply is not intented to you in the first place and you start claiming the American are also using the word, i just pointing out to you it's illegal and racist in America, as long as you don't hijack my post to point it to the Chinese, i don't really care what your chinese do or didn't do.
 
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Socialism IS copying the west....where do you think this style of government came from? Seems even your leaders are tards.


For China the days of socialism was long gone and the last 4 decades it was an unique style f political and economical mixture that worked very well, thank you. If a man invents a vehicle with 4 wheels and another man separately borrow the 4-wheel concept creates an entirely different vehicle, would you call it a copy?

If one calls the Chinese leaders tards I wonder what he calls a George Bush Jr. Don't the Americans wish they can have a bunch of professionals to run their country instead of........
 
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Gambit, see, racist Chinese have just proven your point.

Dude, the point is calling people "naturalized" is consider an racist act in the United States, which satisified the point where Gambit, an american, just made. I don't see any problem with it. I did not say the word "Naturalize" is racist in CHina or what?

2 American talking about some American stuff, i don't see how a CHinese can make any point in between? You go class your own citizens, we keep saying the thing is racist in our society, i don't see what one affect the other?

But the moment you said most of we (American) call their own citizen "Naturalized" you cross the line. As you imply us racist(That's what it mean in America). As simply, they are not true and illegal, then you follow up with that half arse wiki list, i don't really see any of your point but the challenge on my knowledge of American law.
 
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For China the days of socialism was long gone and the last 4 decades it was an unique style f political and economical mixture that worked very well, thank you. If a man invents a vehicle with 4 wheels and another man separately borrow the 4-wheel concept creates an entirely different vehicle, would you call it a copy?

If one calls the Chinese leaders tards I wonder what he calls a George Bush Jr. Don't the Americans wish they can have a bunch of professionals to run their country instead of........
Bush has more brains than the entire rolled into a giant ball of stupidity. leadership of the CCP...he graduated Yale...most of them Shangia community college...with dance and modern art degrees...The fact you don't realise China is just slavishly copying the west shows you must have been in class with them.
 
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Go read your post #101 again pal


Hey Bro, ignore these two arrogant phonies. No matter what you say they won't change their mind about China and us.


@ Juice

I'm glad you Americans think so highly of Bush, with luck, you almost could have another one in Romney. :lol: BTW my phonies do not include you.
 
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Since you were using the white American naturalizing to become a Chinese as an example and asked me what i would call that person i can simply say naturalized Chinese since we were discussing about China and not USA. Your next reply immediately referred to me as racist because i know there's no such law addressing someone like that is illegal or that has something to do with racism.
 
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Hey Bro, ignore these two arrogant phonies. No matter what you say they won't change their mind about China and us.


@ Juice

I'm glad you Americans think so highly of Bush, with luck, you almost could have another one in Romney. :lol:

You are right bro, he wants to twist his way around trying to make people think i started it. If people were reading #101 and a few post earlier they know i didn't start with the US law thing first, which i didn't think it was illegal because i was using it as an example to describe naturalized as appropriate. Then he changed it to how illegal it is in USA and that i was challenging his knowledge of US laws bla bla.
 
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You are right bro, he wants to twist his way around trying to make people think i started it. If people were reading #101 and a few post earlier they know i didn't start with the US law thing first, which i didn't think it was illegal because i was using it as an example to describe naturalized as appropriate. Then he changed it to how illegal it is in USA and that i was challenging his knowledge of US laws bla bla.


Almost half(?) of the people in NYC are naturalized and there's nothing illegal about the word. He's probably very sensitive about the word "white man' which is nothing racist about it.
 
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Exactly, his post #115 "I did not say the word "Naturalize" is racist in CHina or what?" Yet he asked me what i would call a white American obtaining Chinese citizenship which i replied a naturalized Chinese. Then he go pointing me as racist on #101. Well he is contradicting himself isn't he? LOL what a loser
 
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