History? It was running pretty fine before 2008 with $1billion budget
or, was majority of our nation non-muslim before 2008
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But i did not give FETÖ example to bash on Erdoğan or AKP, but just to give an example that budget is not everything and even if budget has record high, other religious groups can/did infiltrate into State and manipulate religion.
That was back in 2008 though, I'm sure a lot has changed since then. And besides, I think they look at the spending of Diyanet in the last year and see if they gave a surplus or a deficit on the budget and allocate a new budget for 2017.
I believe that the pen is stronger than any weapon in war, and cutting spending on organizations like Diyanet will be at our disadvantage in the long run. But that is just my opinion, you might feel differently about that and that is fair enough. Overall I feel like we have the same views on these issues except for some details like budget.
No, they do not. They show their ideology as a religion, so they want followers to defend it. You, me, and every Turkish Citizen could blow ourselves up for Turkey, right? We all could fight for Turkey, right? They ask the same thing. You cannot refute their thesis by "suicide attacks are bad" argument, but banning their perspective of the religion if there are violence, and forcing State's perspective of the religion (aka Religious propaganda) via Diyanet İşleri, which is a must in order to destroy other religious proxies who try to destabilize our country, example FETÖ/IS/Hezbollah etc.
My example was more of a figure of speech, I know that there is way more about their ideology than what I gave in my example. If you would analyze their ideology to the bone, you will see it's about a whole slew of things like nationalism etc.
State's perspective about religion is dangerous talk in my opinion. If we look at various countries in the region, you see that they are using religion for their own interests as well. Religion should be at the hands of academics, not state's. I believe Diyanet is a good example because of their academic work, and the works of various university's from across the world.
Blowing yourself up for your country or religion isn't right. Sacrificing yourself like heroes Omer Halisdemir or Fethi Sekin, sure. But blowing yourself up doesn't have a place in Islam:
Surah al Baqarah (2:190): "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."
And Turkish:
BAKARA-190 Diyanet İşleri 2/BAKARA-190: Sizinle savaşanlara karşı Allah yolunda siz de savaşın. Ancak aşırı gitmeyin. Çünkü Allah aşırı gidenleri sevmez.
No, it was so clear that they were proxies of CIA in day 1. Just because some people are not capable to understand, it doesnt mean it is something like AREA-51, or UFOs. AKP and our President knew who they were/are, he was also part of this plan until his leaving decided in Pentagon.
But i did not give FETÖ example to bash on Erdoğan or AKP, but just to give an example that budget is not everything and even if budget has record high, other religious groups can/did infiltrate into State and manipulate religion.
The thing about FETO being CIA etc. I have heard that a lot in the past, but this never went past speculation. Even till this day I am not sure if there is any tangible evidence to connect FETO with CIA. Eventhough I do think they are a proxy for various intelligence agencies including CIA, but this opinion is largely based on how EU and USA are conducting themselves when it comes to FETO and the coup, rather than me seeing any tangible evidence connecting them to their intelligence services. I also feel like back then, people largely had either a positive or negative view of them because of the political party they supported at the time.
But this wasn't the point I was trying to make though. FETO launched themselves a certain way and yes many people in the past claimed that FETO was evil or CIA etc. some people believed it, some didn't. Now imagine if you have been a friend with A for years, and guy B says 'don't trust him', you are, based on your experience, probably going to trust A more than guy B eventhough guy B might be right with his claim. This is also the case about FETO and it's followers. The way FETO conducted themselves all these years makes it hard for their (former) followers to believe FETO being capable of evil. Those 'Turkce olimpiyatlari' and similar things that they did all had a positive effect on their image. FETO was working clandestinely and they were all about working behind the scenes until they got exposed. That is why I say that FETO is levels beyond ISIS, with ISIS any outsider almost unanimously agrees that they are evil, but with FETO this was a different case. It was hard to believe for many that they were behind many conspiracies in Turkey, because they had a way different image at the time.
There is no such class as "scholarship" in Religion. God even warns people who put others between them and God;
"Follow what has been sent down to you by your God and do not follow any other patrons other than God. How little do you understand!" Al-A'raf-3
Islam has been all about scholarly work since it's inception. The collecting of all the Hadith, the crosschecking of said Hadith with the Quran etc. is all due to academic work. Islam was at one point leading when it came to scientific research, many stars in the night sky have Arabic names for instance, the whole world uses Arabic-Hindu numerals and the word 'algebra' comes from Arabic.
The 'scientific method' and how and in what way Mulsims contributed to it:
https://explorable.com/who-invented-the-scientific-method
And an article highlighting various Verses and Hadith about seeking knowledge in Islam:
http://islam1.org/khutub/Seek_Knowledge.htm
