Huge cars price different between Pakistani and Indian Market

[Hareeb]

Because Indian market is very much diverse. Competition forces firms to lower their prices and raise their standards but in Pakistan, big 3 firms (Toyota, Honda, Suzuki) have made cartels and used to pressurize govt not to introduce auto policy while selling tin structures to Pakistanis.
Now while new brands have entered market after new auto policy, seeing established brands forcing Pakistanis to pay more for basic features, they too have raised their selling prices despite reduction in taxes by the govt for auto industry.

 

[jamahir]

Car is a basic need to a common family. The big families can not travel by two-wheelers or public transports.

Government should be the focus on such issues... Car is very useful for Middle-class people..

Privately-owned personal transport ( cars and two-wheelers ) should be abolished. The intra-city public transport should consist only of mass transport ( buses with facilities for disabled and old people ) and of taxis. This will remove most traffic accidents, pollution, crime and general chaos. Imagine Indian cities without the millions of chaos-inducing cars, motorcycles and scooters. Instead of the privately-owned personal transport car being the basic need of a person or family the person or family's basic need and actually demand to the government should be clean, harmonious, non-polluted and non-chaotic cities.

There is a planned project in Saudia for the construction of a new city called NEOM which will not have privately-owned personal transport cars. Similar is the case for an upcoming district in Shenzhen city in China called Net City.

For the good of the world, especially India and China should be removed of their privately-owned personal transport vehicles. In fact ban privately-owned personal transport vehicles everywhere. They are the main cause of pollution and climate change.

 

[Imran Khan]

i think heavy taxes on it by GOP are main reason

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Privately-owned personal transport ( cars and two-wheelers ) should be abolished. The intra-city public transport should consist only of mass transport ( buses with facilities for disabled and old people ) and of taxis. This will remove most traffic accidents, pollution, crime and general chaos. Imagine Indian cities without the millions of chaos-inducing cars, motorcycles and scooters. Instead of the privately-owned personal transport car being the basic need of a person or family the person or family's basic need and actually demand to the government should be clean, harmonious, non-polluted and non-chaotic cities.

There is a planned project in Saudia for the construction of a new city called NEOM which will not have privately-owned person transport cars. Similar is the case for an upcoming district in Shenzhen city in China called Net City.

For the good of the world, especially India and China should be removed of their privately-owned personal transport vehicles. In fact ban privately-owned personal transport vehicles everywhere. They are the main cause of pollution and climate change.

Do you mean to say that those who live in villages, small cities.... they should wait for public transport serice?

I am just totally surprised that how people are comparing underdeveloped countries to other developed countries.

Buses and vans are perfect for small cities.

does available frequently in a small city or village after 10 PM?

Having the car purpose is different than travelling from one city to another city.

 

[jamahir]

Do you mean to say that those who live in villages, small cities.... they should wait for public transport serice?

I am just totally surprised that how people are comparing underdeveloped countries to other developed countries.

1. An underdeveloped country like India will not become developed by imitating countries like the mostly non-sensible neo-Westernized China which has bullet trains, skyscrapers and hundreds of millions of cars for its hundreds of millions of middle class. India will become developed by doing really smart things like providing scientific and harmonious public transport system ( buses and the occasional taxi ride ) for travel within cities.

2. About your comment about villages, I don't see why a family of five should squeeze themselves onto a dangerous and polluting motorcycle instead of sensibly waiting for a bus which should be sensibly provided by the government. If there can be factories to manufacture motorcycles and scooters in India why can't they be replaced with factories for buses ?

3. And why should villages even remain ? Gather the populations of twenty villages and build them a new township near their original area and the people of these villages should be able to continue their farming profession through the township having Vertical Farms and general Urban Farms built into the townships at neighborhood level. And the neighborhoods should be high quality with each house being max two-storey and having a garden and at least one tree. Give the township free WiFi at every street corner. Give them malls and cinemas. Every facility that we in the cities have. And no dogs, only cats. Such things. This will be true Smart Cities.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

1. An underdeveloped country like India will not become developed by imitating countries like the mostly non-sensible neo-Westernized China which has bullet trains, skyscrapers and hundreds of millions of cars for its hundreds of millions of middle class. India will become developed by doing really smart things like providing scientific and harmonious public transport system ( buses and the occasional taxi ride ) for travel within cities.

2. About your comment about villages, I don't see why a family of five should squeeze themselves onto a dangerous and polluting motorcycle instead of sensibly waiting for a bus which should be sensibly provided by the government. If there can be factories to manufacture motorcycles and scooters in India why can't there be replaced with factories for buses ?

3. And why should villages even remain ? Gather the populations of twenty villages and build them a new township near their original area and the people of these villages should be able to continue their farming profession through the township having Vertical Farms and general Urban Farms built into the townships at neighborhood level. And the neighborhoods should be high quality with each house being max two-storey and having a garden and at least one tree. Give the township free WiFi at every street corner. Give them malls and cinemas. Every facility that we in the cities have. And no dogs, only cats. Such things. This will be true Smart Cities.

1. An underdeveloped country like India will not become developed by imitating countries like the mostly non-sensible neo-Westernized China which has bullet trains, skyscrapers and hundreds of millions of cars for its hundreds of millions of middle class. India will become developed by doing really smart things like providing scientific and harmonious public transport system ( buses and the occasional taxi ride ) for travel within cities.

It is very easy to talk on form but making the smart cities for millions of people... Not a joke.

2. About your comment about villages, I don't see why a family of five should squeeze themselves onto a dangerous and polluting motorcycle instead of sensibly waiting for a bus which should be sensibly provided by the government. If there can be factories to manufacture motorcycles and scooters in India why can't there be replaced with factories for buses ?

Bus transport- good for metro cities where it is easily available between few minutes intervals. Wherein, villages and small cities - available in hours and not available in ODD hours.

Bike - it is good for two people if going not too far... only for a small distance and good for small usages... But not safe for families those having two kids.

. And why should villages even remain ? Gather the populations of twenty villages and build them a new township near their original area and the people of these villages should be able to continue their farming profession through the township having Vertical Farms and general Urban Farms built into the townships at neighborhood level. And the neighborhoods should be high quality with each house being max two-storey and having a garden and at least one tree. Give the township free WiFi at every street corner. Give them malls and cinemas. Every facility that we in the cities have. And no dogs, only cats. Such things. This will be true Smart Cities.

So, easy to Say on the internet.......... just like "Bollywood - Nayak Movie"

 

[BRAVO_]

pakistan has a complex Taxation structure towards automobile industry since honda,toyota and suzuki hold a monopolistic control over local market so they keep hiking the prices of sub stander cars and already placed them highest in the region and it is not just the cars day to day items like flour sugar oil etc prices are also on top in the region but demand of new cars has reached at all time high, car assembling companies deliver cars after a month or sometime in couple of months after booking and it is due to huge difference in demand and less supply ... yet people think pakistan is a poor country, they dont know nothing about it black economy is rocking and to avoid taxes people have mastered the techniques ... so people are becoming rich day by day and country is becoming poor...

 

[jamahir]

It is very easy to talk on form but making the smart cities for millions of people... Not a joke.

The Chinese government has given the 707 million Chinese middle class an imitation of the unscientific and obsolete American cities like New York with their cramped and unsafe environment and skyscrapers. The Chinese middle class and also the Indian middle class and upper class seem to be even ( and without wisdom ) proud of living in those ridiculous ten-storey highrises and 30 to 50 storey skyscrapers. Are the Chinese and Indian governments doing it right for those millions of people if I am being wrong on this forum ? Modi announced the 100 Smart Cities project in 2014 as part of his election promises. What has become of it now in 2021, seven years later ?

Bus transport- good for metro cities where it is easily available between few minutes intervals. Wherein, villages and small cities - available in hours and not available in ODD hours.

I don't understand the problem. As I said the government should build factories for buses and make them regular to the villages. If there can be motorcycle factories that churn out thousands of motorcycles every month there can also be bus factories in every state that can churn out at least a few dozen buses every month.

So, easy to Say on the internet.......... just like "Bollywood - Nayak Movie"

Even developing ideas on the internet takes sensibility on part of the original ideator and on part of those who adopt it. For example the now popular Linux operating system had a large part developed on the internet.

So you should critique my ideas in that section in more detail instead of blindly rejecting.

 

[Maula Jatt]

itll

Instead of American model, countries like India, Pakistan should follow European or Japanese model.
In US, cars are a necessity because public transport is inadequate. In Europe and Japan, public transport is much better so car ownership is not that high.

India / Pak cannot afford to have a lot of cars. Already the traffic and pollution is pretty bad. India is making progress with the metro rail network. Pak needs to work on that too in all its major cities.

Most decent size cities have Metro in Pak, but network can be a bit better tbh

Like people who use public transport cover long distances with metro and than use a rickshaw etc for small distance afterwards

 

[magra]

does available frequently in a small city or village after 10 PM?
Having the car purpose is different than travelling from one city to another city.

How often do people need to go out at odd hours of night in a small city / village. In an emergency, they can call a taxi or borrow a friend / neighbor's car. Not everyone needs a car. Sadly, car ownership in India has become more of a prestige issue rather than a need issue.

 

[Maula Jatt]

As far as cars are concerned they're needed too imo

For a long time we had a monopoly of two three companies, so they became anti-consumer

But I feel in the long run it'll get better as now people can get cars from over a dozen companies, some are assembled in Pakistan

So next that can truly make a difference is to force/incentivize companies to manufacture in Pak

This is very important

 

[magra]

itll

Most decent size cities have Metro in Pak, but network can be a bit better tbh

Like people who use public transport cover long distances with metro and than use a rickshaw etc for small distance afterwards

How do you define a metro? Last I heard Lahore was the pilot city for metro rail in Pakistan covering a small distance.
In India, 20+ cities have metro - which is air conditioned intra city electric locomotives.

 

[Falconless]

So you should critique my ideas in that section in more detail instead of blindly rejecting.

He just wants the state to buy him a car

 

[WalterWhite]

Higher taxes than India and higher number of imported parts per unit. localization of parts is the key to lower prices!

 

[Falconless]

How do you define a metro?

Metro is Bus Rapid Transit in the Pakistani lexicon, you can thank Showbaaz Sharif for that.