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Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

Thief excuse. Of cos, we know american style. Invasion and plunder of other nation wealth can be claimed as liberation. :enjoy:

HAHA! So I guess it was the Cisco drivers one.
Let me see..you steal the Cisco drivers and then cry thief. haha!
 
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Pakistan should also show some courage and sue Huawei

Following American logic here Pakistan should sue the American company BES for not even delivering a proper backdoor with their software.

Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz
Business Efficiency Solutions, LLC, (BES) began working with Huawei Technologies in 2016 to overhaul the IT systems available to the Punjab Police Integrated Command
"Backdoor" may not be the right term, though it's difficult to be certain without knowing
 
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Allegations of purloined trade secrets, unfair competition, national security threats, and more packed into lawsuit

A California-based IT consultancy has sued Huawei and its subsidiary in Pakistan alleging the Chinese telecom firm stole its trade secrets and failed to honor a contract to develop technology for Pakistani authorities.

The complaint [PDF], filed on Wednesday in the US District Court in Santa Ana, California, describes how Business Efficiency Solutions, LLC, (BES) began working with Huawei Technologies in 2016 to overhaul the IT systems available to the Punjab Police Integrated Command, Control and Communication Center (PPIC3) of Lahore, capital of the Punjab province of Pakistan.

The legal filing claims, among other things, that Huawei has used BES’s Data Exchange System "to create a backdoor and obtain data important to Pakistan’s national security and to spy on Pakistani citizens."

The PPIC3 project, as described in the legal filing, was part of an initiative formulated by the Punjab Safe Cities Authority (PSCA), a provincial government body. Its goal was to modernize the technology available to local police.


The request for proposal (RFP) called for proposals describing the design of eight software systems:
  • Data Exchange System (DES), for storing data from national identity cards, excise and customs, cellular providers, land and tax records, immigration and passport records, and the like.
  • Building Management System (BMS), for managing building security, environmental systems, and access.
  • Resource Management System (RMS), for managing police resources, like vehicles and equipment.
  • Digital Media Forensics Center (DFC), for managing captured video and still imagery from the police network.
  • Learning Management System (LMS), for workforce training and support.
  • Media Monitoring Center (MMC), for monitoring the internet (social media), print, and broadcast.
  • Field Assets, including Mobile Emergency Command and Control Vehicles (ECV), for keeping track of command vehicles, handheld and laptops for field use, body cameras, and covert miniature cameras.
  • Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV), for managing industrial-level drones for real-time surveillance.

According to the complaint, authorities in Pakistan invited various companies to submit proposals, including Motorola, Nokia, and Huawei.

Huawei, it's alleged, lacked the technical capability to provide the systems called for by the RFP and so, in March 2016, it partnered with BES to develop the eight software systems. BES's work on the project is said to have been instrumental in PSCA's decision to award the project to Huawei for $150m.


Huawei is said to have obtained BES's low-level designs for these systems and then resisted paying BES while seeking similar police modernization contracts – without involving or paying BES – in several other cities in Pakistan, and in Qatar, Dubai, the United Arab Emirates, and Saudi Arabia.

"After Huawei had BES’s valuable trade secrets and other intellectual property in its possession, Huawei used its knowledge of BES’s technology to begin secretly procuring certain portions of BES’s software systems from other sources – including from vendors BES identified to Huawei," the complaint says.

"Huawei also began to use one of BES’s software systems to establish a 'backdoor' from China into Pakistan that allowed Huawei to collect and view data important to Pakistan’s national security and other private, personal data on Pakistani citizens."

"Backdoor" may not be the right term, though it's difficult to be certain without knowing the details of the system's technical architecture. In the complaint, the term is used to describe a duplicate of the PSCA's DES running on servers based in a Huawei facility in Suzhou, China. Whether that copy arises from a covert remote access capability or an overt replication option under indifferent or permissive security policy isn't clear.

Pattern of behavior claimed

Among the exhibits entered into evidence with the complaint is a March 28, 2017 email from BES CEO and founder Javed Nawaz asking a contact at Huawei to obtain written approval from the Punjab police (PPIC3) that they're willing to store their sensitive data in China.

"In regards to setting up the environment in Suzhou in China, we want to insure [sic] that PPIC3 has no objection in transfer of this technology outside of PPIC3 for security reasons," the message from Nawaz says. "Please get an approval from PPIC3, in writing, prior to us performing this function. Our staff is on way [sic] to PPIC3 and will await instructions before updating DES on to servers in China."

The reply received the following day said that no approval is necessary. The complaint indicates that Huawei subsequently said it had received approval from the Pakistani government, but provides no documentation to that effect.

"Huawei threatened to terminate the agreements between the parties and withhold all payments owed to BES unless BES installed the duplicate DES system in China," the complaint says. "In light of Huawei’s affirmative representations that they had the approval of the Pakistani government, the duplicate DES system was installed in China.

"On information and belief, Huawei-China uses the proprietary DES system as a backdoor from China into Lahore to gain access, manipulate, and extract sensitive data important to Pakistan’s national security."

The Register asked multiple communications personnel from Huawei to comment on these claims, and we received no response.
However, we cannot recall any company ever admitting to operating a deliberately backdoored system – we assume Huawei would describe the alleged DES duplicate, if still operational, as a test environment and would insist it keeps its client's data safe.

When such allegations have surfaced in the past, Huawei has denied them. Last year, during the Trump administration, US authorities claimed that Huawei can covertly access its telecom equipment. But evidence to that effect, if it exists, has not been made public.

The BES lawsuit cites a past instance, described in an April 8, 2019 BBC report, in which the PSCA told Huawei to remove Wi-Fi cards from a CCTV system in Pakistan because the cards had been set up to provide remote diagnostic information – which a Huawei representative at the time characterized as "a misunderstanding" and the BES complaint describes as a "covert backdoor to monitor Pakistan citizens using Wi-Fi chips."

The BES legal filing also points to trade secret theft indictments against Huawei in 2019 and in 2020 by the US Justice Department to bolster its claims.

It's also possible that Huawei did receive approval from Pakistan to maintain a clone of a sensitive police database in China and has chosen not to provide that to BES. In that case, the redundant DES in China might be better described as an unusual display of trust for the storage of sensitive information than as a "backdoor."

In any event, in 2018, Huawei filed an arbitration petition in Islamabad, Pakistan, and obtained an injunction preventing BES from terminating its contract with the telecom firm. BES last September filed its own arbitration petition to recover damages and is now pursuing its trade secret and unfair competition claim in California. ®

Rah chalte logo ko Iron Brother bana kar sar par bithao ge to yahi kuch hoga.
 
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When Pakistan PM Imran Khan hears about this, it is almost guarantee he will fall of his chair laughing.

It must be the tallest tale he ever heard although he is not a technical man.

Meanwhile I just fell off my chair also laughing.

:omghaha: :omghaha: :omghaha:
 
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US even spies on so called allies like Germany, Canada, France...

Everyone spies on everyone. China spies on all of its allies too, including North Korea and Pakistan. Don't act like China is a holy cow.

And all of the above mentioned countries spy on each other too. Obviously, they do cooperate when needed. Since you're a business man and not a intel guy, you wouldn't understand but in the intelligence community, it's fair game to spy on any and everyone. Including your own people. In which China excels the most. :D
 
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I never believed it in the first place. :lol:
What a liar u are! You are terrible. Be a man a admit. Unless u are not one! :lol:
Everyone spies on everyone. China spies on all of its allies too, including North Korea and Pakistan. Don't act like China is a holy cow.

And all of the above mentioned countries spy on each other too. Obviously, they do cooperate when needed. Since you're a business man and not a intel guy, you wouldn't understand but in the intelligence community, it's fair game to spy on any and everyone. Including your own people. In which China excels the most. :D
The only shameless one is American who go ahead accuse other. China never do that. We are not the same shameless level like u.
 
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What a liar u are! You are terrible. Be a man a admit. Unless u are not one! :lol:

Bring proof...

Or keep shut. :rolleyes:

The only shameless one is American who go ahead accuse other. China never do that. We are not the same shameless level like u.

The US does what it does because it's in the US'es interests. So does China and so does everyone else.

If you want to keep track of shamelessness then look no further than your own brethern who have not only cleaned the South China Sea of fish and other sea food but are now fishing in waters of other nations, stripping them of their seafood.

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Heck, Chinese fisherman have been caught inside Pakistani EEZ. Thousands of kilometers away from China. You should be the last one to lecture anyone on here about shamelessness.

Your own founder, Mao Zedong, offered Chinese women to the US in return for US Aid. :lol:
 
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Bring proof...

Or keep shut. :rolleyes:



The US does what it does because it's in the US'es interests. So does China and so does everyone else.

If you want to keep track of shamelessness then look no further than your own brethern who have not only cleaned the South China Sea of fish and other sea food but are now fishing in waters of other nations, stripping them of their seafood.

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Heck, Chinese fisherman have been caught inside Pakistani EEZ. Thousands of kilometers away from China. You should be the last one to lecture anyone on here about shamelessness.

Your own founder, Mao Zedong, offered Chinese women to the US in return for US Aid. :lol:

You want me to bring up how many thread u started accusing China with source from US/western article or media and claim u dont believe in US? :rofl:

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Try to bring Chinese fishing issue vs US drone attack on Pakistan that killed Pakistanis without regards?

Who is the worst traitor for Pakistan by trying to promote US for Pakistan? Tell me, how many Pakistanis killed by PLA drone on Pakistan soil? Zero... Chinese respect Pakistan sovereignty. US dont!



US drone strikes in Pakistan in the spotlight
 
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You want me to bring up how many thread u started accusing China with source from US/western article or media and claim u dont believe in US? :rofl:

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Try to bring Chinese fishing issue vs US drone attack on Pakistan that killed Pakistanis without regards?

Who is the worst traitor for Pakistan by trying to promote US for Pakistan? Tell me, how many Pakistanis killed by PLA drone on Pakistan soil? Zero... Chinese respect Pakistan sovereignty. US dont!



US drone strikes in Pakistan in the spotlight

We all know of the US atrocities against Pakistan. No one is denying that. Like I said earlier, US does what it does to preserve its own interests. So does China and everyone else.

But if you want to talk about "shamefulness", then you'll see that China isn't far behind the US in terms of that. :D
If so , what's he fuss?

Read the title of the thread...


Getting caught is when the fuss is created. :D
 
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The Americans are very desperate to break the relationship between China and Pakistan. Like PM Imran Khan said, they won't succeed.
You want me to bring up how many thread u started accusing China with source from US/western article or media and claim u dont believe in US? :rofl:

and

Try to bring Chinese fishing issue vs US drone attack on Pakistan that killed Pakistanis without regards?

Who is the worst traitor for Pakistan by trying to promote US for Pakistan? Tell me, how many Pakistanis killed by PLA drone on Pakistan soil? Zero... Chinese respect Pakistan sovereignty. US dont!



US drone strikes in Pakistan in the spotlight

China Pakistan friendship is rock solid. Let me tell you where America stands today. Anti-Americanism and distrust is extreme. The Americans chose India as their lapdog in the region and wanted to turn Pakistan into a sacrificial animal. Salala wasn't an accident. Drone strikes were brutal and killed countless innocent Pakistanis. I could go on and on. The Americans couldn't repair this mess in another 1000 years even if they wanted to. The damage has been done. USAID and the US consulates are trying their best, but they know the score.

Not only did the US make a mess of Afghanistan. It also lost a nation of 200+ million and a nuclear power. Luckily the Americans have decades to ponder and self-reflect where it all went wrong.
 
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We all know of the US atrocities against Pakistan. No one is denying that. Like I said earlier, US does what it does to preserve its own interests. So does China and everyone else.

But if you want to talk about "shamefulness", then you'll see that China isn't far behind the US in terms of that. :D


Read the title of the thread...


Getting caught is when the fuss is created. :D
Fishing is not far compare to killing Pakistan civilian randomly plus infringe of Pakistan sovereignty. :rofl:

I got it, I got it! Thanks for your trash explanation. :enjoy:
 
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Fishing is not far compare to killing Pakistan civilian randomly plus infringe of Pakistan sovereignty. :rofl:

I got it, I got it! Thanks for your trash explanation. :enjoy:

Clearly the point missed you or you're just being a troll, as usual. :rolleyes:
 
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