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How to stop Ababeel Missile, Forget S400 and Arrow 3. this is what is required and yet they cannot

You don't chase a missile, you intercept by blocking its path.

As a result of Abbabeel, India will exhaust its air defense missiles very quickly as for every incoming sub vehicle, it would consume one missile, and that too if it achieved 100% kill ratio.

Just like Babur-III, Abbabeel is a game changer. Now Indian strategists would have to increase ballistic missile defense system by 5-6 fold to get the same level of defense against Pakistan, and that too with the assumption that India still has 100% hit rate against incoming missiles.

In short, Indian dream of attacking Pakistan and then being able to live is even flimsier and increasingly unlikely. If India attacked Pakistan, India would end up living in the stories only.
 
As a result of Abbabeel, India will exhaust its air defense missiles very quickly as for every incoming sub vehicle, it would consume one missile, and that too if it achieved 100% kill ratio.

Just like Babur-III, Abbabeel is a game changer. Now Indian strategists would have to increase ballistic missile defense system by 5-6 fold to get the same level of defense against Pakistan, and that too with the assumption that India still has 100% hit rate against incoming missiles.

In short, Indian dream of attacking Pakistan and then being able to live is even flimsier and increasingly unlikely. If India attacked Pakistan, India would end up living in the stories only.
And if Pakistan will attack India, what would happen to Pakistan.
As for the thread
I think it's best to try and break this issue down into it's constituent parts. Let's first break down the stages a ballistic missile goes through during its flight:
  1. The ascent (boost) phase: In this phase, the ballistic missile is launched and begins it's travel upwards. This phase, while not the shortest, is still relatively short and-- at least for land-based systems-- tends to happen within the confines of territory controlled by the launching state.
  2. The mid-course phase: In this phase, the missile has (in most cases) reached space and is nearing its apogee. At this point, the missile will release its multiple warheads and/or any sort of decoy countermeasures, if equipped with any of the above, and . This phase comprises a bulk of the missile's flight time.
  3. The descent (re-entry) phase: At this point, the warhead(s) begin their return to Earth in order to strike their targets. The warheads, being in free-fall, are moving extremely fast, and so this phase is over relatively quickly.
Now, let's look at, in a basic sense, what you have to in order to intercept a ballistic missile:
  1. You have to know that a missile has been launched: In order to know that there's a missile to be intercepted, you have to know that one is out there.
  2. You have to figure out where the missile/warhead is going: In order to intercept the missile, you have be able to track it and try and figure out where it's going to be in the future.
  3. You have to be able to actually send something to intercept the missile: While all of these requirements are rather basic, this is probably the most basic of all of them; in order to intercept the missile, you have to have something that can actually intercept the missile.

Now, let's put these things together.

During the ascent phase, the ballistic missile is quite vulnerable; it's obviously traveling at a high rate of speed but it's not going terribly fast relatively speaking, it's flight path is relatively basic, and it hasn't had the ability to release countermeasures or multiple warheads yet. During the ascent phase, the missile is at its most vulnerable state, but is still very difficult to hit given its (rough) geographical location. Since it is inside an opponent's physical territory/airspace, and given the short duration of this phase, it is relatively difficult to get an interceptor on-target within time.

During the mid-course phase, the missile becomes less vulnerable; it can deploy countermeasures (e.g. ballons, dummy warheads, chaff) and multiple, independently-targed re-entry vehicles (MIRV). To intercept the nuclear warheads during this phase, one would need to:
  • Have an intercepter vehicle capable of reaching space (read: large and expensive).
  • Have an ability to launch multiple interceptors.
  • Have some level of ability to tell what targets need to be hit and what targets can be avoided.
These are not trivial issues.

During the descent phase, the incoming warhead is traveling at an extremely high rate of speed (hitting top speeds of anywhere from mach 3 to mach 20). This phase is decidedly short and attempts to intercpet a missile within this time frame are, because of that, inherently complicated; you have to pick up the warhead, figure out where it's going, launch an interceptor, and then have the interceptor get on target (with precious little margin for error) within the span of, say, 30 to 40 seconds.

Oh, and all of this has have a low turnaround time, and work 100% of the time.

Getting all of that together in a working system just isn't easy.

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-it-so-hard-to-intercept-a-nuclear-missile

Seems Laser systems will be the end solution for those system, but then, what will intercept laser?
 
As a result of Abbabeel, India will exhaust its air defense missiles very quickly as for every incoming sub vehicle, it would consume one missile, and that too if it achieved 100% kill ratio.

Just like Babur-III, Abbabeel is a game changer. Now Indian strategists would have to increase ballistic missile defense system by 5-6 fold to get the same level of defense against Pakistan, and that too with the assumption that India still has 100% hit rate against incoming missiles.

In short, Indian dream of attacking Pakistan and then being able to live is even flimsier and increasingly unlikely. If India attacked Pakistan, India would end up living in the stories only.

That depends on how many you build and induct in your arsenal. The S-400 systems alone will be more than enough, let alone Indian BMD.

You are forgetting that we are developing our BMD to stop Chinese nukes, the Chinese already have thermonukes and MIRVs. Pakistan's missile capability is an afterthought.
 
And if Pakistan will attack India, what would happen to Pakistan

Pakistan-India war is MAD - Mutually Assured Death. Pakistan knows that as fact, India is in delusions and such developments try to show India what war would mean.
 
That depends on how many you build and induct in your arsenal. The S-400 systems alone will be more than enough, let alone Indian BMD.

You are forgetting that we are developing our BMD to stop Chinese nukes, the Chinese already have thermonukes and MIRVs. Pakistan's missile capability is an afterthought.

The s400 can't accurately track anything going faster than 4.8 km per second. Our missiles reach those speeds within one minute of launch not to mention they keep changing their directions.

Oh and fyi, going by past history, Pakistan has already had the Ababeel SSM in production and deployed for a long time now, at least ten years. We just openly declared it today. So india has already fallen behind...far far behind.
 
The s400 can't accurately track anything going faster than 4.8 km per second. Our missiles reach those speeds within one minute of launch not to mention they keep changing their directions.

Delhi and Mumbai have the first phase shield along with the S-400. Delhi and Mumbai can only be targeted with missile ranges that are less than 2000Km from Pakistan, all MRBMs. So stopping a missile doing 4.8km/s is plenty for the 2 cities and adjoining regions.

The Indian BMD that is being developed for phase 2 is meant to stop all IRBMs.

Then of course, there's the S-500 which can stop almost all current gen ICBMs. And there are rumours that the Indian BMD will have 2 new S-500 interceptors. Although our biggest threat comes from China's IRBMs, not ICBMs.

Oh and fyi, going by past history, Pakistan has already had the Ababeel SSM in production and deployed for a long time now, at least ten years. We just openly declared it today. So india has already fallen behind...far far behind.

It won't make a difference. S-400 and Indian BMD are meant to stop more sophisticated missiles than what Pakistan has. I already mentioned it, our BMD is meant for China's missiles, so Pakistan's arsenal is also covered.

Also, no, the Ababeel saw its first firing only recently. It's a new missile. We have data on all the missiles Pakistan has launched to date. We did not inform Pak about the K-4 launch. That's why you reciprocated by keeping your current launch secret too. Otherwise, both Pak and India have signed an agreement to inform each other of ballistic missile tests. You can't hide tests.
 
Delhi and Mumbai have the first phase shield along with the S-400. Delhi and Mumbai can only be targeted with missile ranges that are less than 2000Km from Pakistan, all MRBMs. So stopping a missile doing 4.8km/s is plenty for the 2 cities and adjoining regions.

The Indian BMD that is being developed for phase 2 is meant to stop all IRBMs.

Then of course, there's the S-500 which can stop almost all current gen ICBMs. And there are rumours that the Indian BMD will have 2 new S-500 interceptors. Although our biggest threat comes from China's IRBMs, not ICBMs.



It won't make a difference. S-400 and Indian BMD are meant to stop more sophisticated missiles than what Pakistan has. I already mentioned it, our BMD is meant for China's missiles, so Pakistan's arsenal is also covered.

Also, no, the Ababeel saw its first firing only recently. It's a new missile. We have data on all the missiles Pakistan has launched to date. We did not inform Pak about the K-4 launch. That's why you reciprocated by keeping your current launch secret too. Otherwise, both Pak and India have signed an agreement to inform each other of ballistic missile tests. You can't hide tests.

Oh bboy, he's dreaming again. Oye genius, even THAAD can't stop anything going more than 4.8km per second. And here you are basically claiming that DODO can out tech THAAD! :omghaha:

And if you think this is the first time we produced the Ababeel then, good. The objectives of keeping things secret have been met. :tup:
 
. Delhi and Mumbai can only be targeted with missile ranges that are less than 2000Km from Pakistan, all MRBM


I am astonished at bullshit persumptions....

Shaheen 3 in a scooped up trajectory can hit delhi within 3 minutes of its launch... go and figure that ur royal dumbness
 
By the time they are able to buy something that can POSSIBLY stop the Ababeel-1

Ababeel 2 and 3 will be ready.

Ohhhh my god I am scared.

Pakistan's game plan can be summarized in one line.
"Ham tou doobay hain Sanam, tum ko bhi le doobain gay!"

"Hum to dubege" is in pakistan's hand but "tum ko bhi le dubege" is not. History has proved this.
 
Oh bboy, he's dreaming again. Oye genius, even THAAD can't stop anything going more than 4.8km per second. And here you are basically claiming that DODO can out tech THAAD! :omghaha:

Are you an idiot? Read again.

And if you think this is the first time we produced the Ababeel then, good. The objectives of keeping things secret have been met. :tup:

Ababeel is a Shaheen II/III with MIRV. They only mention it has MIRV, or else it was just a regular missile test. Nothing special was demonstrated.

I am astonished at bullshit persumptions....

Shaheen 3 in a scooped up trajectory can hit delhi within 3 minutes of its launch... go and figure that ur royal dumbness

What bullshit. You need to study basic physics. Google "ballistic trajectory".

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Ideal_projectile_motion_for_different_angles.svg
 
Seems Laser systems will be the end solution for those system, but then, what will intercept laser?
You don't intercept laser you reflect solid state laser to avoid it. It decreases the damage on targeted surface thus providing protection to the incoming war head.
 
Allah ki Barkat. Ababeel ki video mai Ababeel
Ababeel in video.png


 
Oh bboy, he's dreaming again. Oye genius, even THAAD can't stop anything going more than 4.8km per second. And here you are basically claiming that DODO can out tech THAAD! :omghaha:

And if you think this is the first time we produced the Ababeel then, good. The objectives of keeping things secret have been met. :tup:
This is not properly correct, the interceptor doesn't need to be faster than the missile it just needs to meet it.....
 

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