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How to deal with the next false flag operation? If Pakistan is blamed

If u really mean what u said above....that will be a great favor to India/Pak and the whole of the humanity...We will not be made scapegoats so easily in future. It is really the time to wakeup and be vigilant on our sorroundingz dont believe about any official stories....Cuz if officials were sincere they would have left their seats or govts soon after their failures(for providing security to their public) but they didnt this makes them suspicious of playing underhand games. Using or killing their own pplz to gather their political gains domestic and international.
Guyz we gtta wakeup..we should not allow our politicians to play with our lives. Islam is very peaceful religion,was and will be no questions asked about it. We r not going to let anybody to use the name of Islam for any evil activity and gains no matter what and we r going to follow those evil pplz to the evry corner of the world and wipe them out of the face of the world soon inshallah...This should be our agenda and goal to save the humanity from evilz and bring peace for ever on this planet (everybody is most welcome to join this noble mission).
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I don't know if I should laugh or cry......here's a hint to what I really meant in my original post.

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But honestly, there is truth in what you said above.

Peace, bro:cheers:
 
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This is a thread under discussion in another "Pakistani defence forum with some interesting question"... Im trying to take the views from each other regarding Pakistan's stability and security under the present world situations:

The stage seems to be set to blame Pakistan and the ISI for the next false flag terrorist attack. We need to start thinking about how we'll deal with it.

The current crusades were launched after the false flag on America (911) was blamed on Muslims. No proof has yet been presented to justify American claims. In fact, a hundred questions about it still remain unanswered. Unfortunately no Muslim country has officially challenged the official American version of the event so the general belief still prevails that Muslims were to blame for it and every single Muslim in the world is somehow guilty.

Later the British, Australians, Spanish also arranged attacks on themselves to join the American crusade. Lastly the Indians did the Bombay drama and blamed Pakistan and the Pakistan government has never properly challenged the Indian accusation.

Now the stage has been set for the next event. Hilary Clinton has said that the next attack on America will come from Pakistan and the American Military Chief has said that the next attack on India will come from Pakistan. The ISI has been demonized and the WikiLeaks have pinned the blame on the ISI for the American defeat in Afghanistan. The Western public mind has been prepared to blame Pakistan just like OBL was demonized before 911 so that when it was executed the American media blamed OBL while 911 was still going on. It is easy to visualize the next terrorist attack during which the TV channels will be blaming Pakistan, ISI, LeT as the event is happening.

We need to get our strategy right on how we will deal with the next big one.

1) Will it be in America or India?
2) Will Pakistan be given any time to respond or will it come under attack immediately. The Indian cold start doctrine might come into play.
3) Will Zardari accept the blame or will Pakistan call it a false flag?
4) How will the Pakistani media handle it? Their performance till now has been pathetic and a lot of the media have business deals with the US and India.
5) Will Pakistan be given an ultimatum to surrender like Musharraf was threatened with being bombed back to the stone age?
6) Will Pakistan give in or stand its ground?
7) Will Pakistan accept American/Indian bombing of its territory in order to avoid a full scale war?
8) Will Pakistan start attacking the Afghan Taliban in order to avoid being bombed?
9) If Pakistan stands up to American/Indian threats what will be the consequence?
10) Will the Americans be able to take control of Pakistan's nukes or at least render them in-operational while India attacks without fear?
11) Will Pakistan shut down the American supply routes?
12) Will the Americans try to occupy Baluchistan to restore supply lines?
13) Will the American-backed TTP start a massive suicide bombing campaign in Pakistan?
14) Will American forces enter Pakistan? From Afghanistan or the sea?
15) Will the Pakistan military fire on the Americans or will they fight with India while still treating America as a dear old friend?
16) Will Blackwater do large scale sabotage inside Pakistan?
17) Will the CIA-backed Zardari be eliminated or not?
18) What will be the outcome?

Another possibility is that the idea of a false-flag to be blamed on Pakistan is just a tactic to scare Pakistan into doing what the enemies want and in reality they have no plan to actually do it. By just making it seem like they'll do it they may be able to coerce Pakistan into bending to their wishes.

The reason to believe that they'll actually do it is that American cannot leave without finishing the job within Pakistan, and that job is to de-nuke it. That is the reasons the Americans are in Afghanistan and they WILL NOT go before this job is done. For years they've tried to destroy Pakistan internally by regime change, economic collapse, suicide bombings, BLA, TTP, Zardari etc but Pakistan is still standing. The Yugoslavia doctrine has so far failed to work in Pakistan. According to their calculations Pakistan should have collapsed by now but since it hasn't they may need to do a direct attack.

From India's perspective this is the golden opportunity that they could only dream about. The Americans and NATO sitting in Afghanistan ready to help India finish off Pakistan. They will never get this opportunity again so they have to take the risk now. They must have been assured by the Americans about suppressing the nukes.
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You know you blamed more than 5 countries being wrong and all somehow conspiring against you? Man do you know how ridiculous this seems? Seriously.
 
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26/11 was done by elements in Pakistan the whole world know this and also the afgan indian embassy was attacked by ISI rogue elements just ask CIA they the ones who leaked it out.


yeah yeah ISI got some kind of Jinn's who can cross indian borders via boat easily to create a drama like mumbai 26/11 :what: :rolleyes:
 
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GORDON DUFF: FALSE FLAG NUKE ATTACK ON U.S. JUSTIFIED….”KING’S TORAH”
August 2, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff

ISRAEL TO USE IRANIAN AND Pakistani DUPES IN DIRTY NUKE PLOY
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor


This week, the last piece fell into place. The National Research Council, part of the National Academy of Science, heavy on politics and light on science, announced that America was no longer able to track nukes threatening our shores. Their report titled Nuclear Forensics: A Capability at Risk, released last week, outlines the details of a secret study requested by the Departments of Homeland Security, Defense and Energy, specifically the National Nuclear Security Administration. The gist of the story is easy, if a nuke goes off in America, dirty nuke in Times Square, one in a container at a port, anywhere, America won’t be able to tell who made it. Not a word of the report is true. It is wild speculation and disinformation written in broad language with no hard science, written for a reason.

A powerful group within the United States, one with influence over the press and the ability to derail an investigation as was done with 9/11, has been “tasked” with laying the groundwork for a terrorist attack on America, one using nuclear material. This report, unneeded, and highly inaccurate was printed in the New York Times to provide “cover.” It isn’t just this report, the pieces are falling together around the world. The Wiki-Leaks story, pre staging Pakistan’s ISI as a terrorist organization, a story built out of almost no information but fleshed out with massive speculation by “operatives” in the press is part of the process.

The Defense Authorization Act of 2006 allows, “in case of a terrorist attack” for the president to declare marshal law, disband congress and rule by executive decree. With the suspension of habeas corpus by the Military Commissions act, also in 2006, America as we know it officially comes to an end the second a weapon of mass destruction in used. Only then will America learn who has been pulling the strings all along, who is scripting Wolf Blitzer and Glen Beck.

British Prime Minister David Cameron’s attacks on Pakistan, made from New Delhi last week, seen by most as a serious political blunder, are part of the narrative. We will get to more background on a younger David Cameron later.

Another piece of the puzzle involved a federal task force, Defense, Energy, FBI, descending on a warehouse in Greenfield, Indiana under the guise of a “records search.” This “Waco style” assault on a facility storing furniture for college dorm rooms was much more than it seemed. No case, criminal or civil, provided any underlying reason for the search.

Further, the bizarre tale of rumored missing nukes, illegally transported on a B-52 from Minot AFB to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana, a major Defense Department scandal, is meant to create, not only fear and doubt, but “plausible deniability” if a weapon is exploded inside the US. These, however, are not, by far, the only missing nuclear weapons America has to fear as we will get into later.

Two recent attacks, the “Times Square Fizzler” and the Detroit “Crotch Bomber” were both amateurish affairs except for a couple of things. Both perpetrators had strong ties to Israeli organizations, one actually employed by an Israeli-American financial firm, the other the son of Israel’s primary partner in their defense industry complex in Nigeria. None of this was reported or investigated once discovered. It was shoved under the rug immediately. When cursory investigations of both suspects showed travel histories only possible with significant help from an intelligence agency, both stories disappeared from the news entirely. It is as though everyone involved vanished from the face of the earth like the second person arrested in Detroit or the “well dressed Indian” who aided the “Crotch Bomber” onto the plane in Amsterdam.

LEGAL JUSTIFICATION FOR ATTACKS ON GENTILES

Conservative interpretations of Jewish law, currently being used to justify resettlement of Palestinians and even total removal of all non-Jews from greater Palestine and adjacent areas have long been used to justify acts such as the attack on the USS Liberty, bombings of US facilities in Egypt and, less openly, “false flag” terror attacks attributed to Muslims but performed by Israeli security forces. Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira and Rabbi Yosef Elitzur, seen as the ethical conscience behind the Netanyahu government have taken the following position as reported by Jonathan Cook:

“In the 230-page book, Shapira and his co-author, Rabbi Yosef Elitzur (The King’s Torah,currently Israel’s best selling book) argue that Jewish law permits the killing of non-Jews in a wide variety of circumstances. They write that Jews have the right to kill Gentiles in any situation in which “a non-Jew’s presence endangers Jewish lives” even if the Gentile is “not at all guilty for the situation that has been created”.

The book sanctions the killing of non-Jewish children and babies: “There is justification for killing babies if it is clear that they will grow up to harm us, and in such a situation they may be harmed deliberately, and not only during combat with adults.”

The rabbis suggest that harming the children of non-Jewish leaders is justified if it is likely to bring pressure to bear on them to change policy. The authors also advocate committing “cruel deeds to create the proper balance of terror” and treating all members of an “enemy nation” as targets for retaliation, even if they are not directly participating in hostile activities.” (false flag terrorism)



This rationale allows deadly force to be used against Christians if their deaths advance the cause of Israeli security even if only through economic profit. Thus, if an attack such as 9/11 were to lead to America fighting wars against enemies of Israel or if, as in Afghanistan, Israeli companies were to profit from weapons or narcotics sales, any deaths of gentiles, no matter how innocent, would be justified by Jewish law as stated in the Torah.

Were an attack on the United States to bring that country to war against Iran, even if that attack were perpetrated by Israelis, it would be legal according to Israeli law, the same law being relied upon for justice in the attack on the Mavi Marmara.

More often however, attacks on Israel itself are believed to have been staged, not only to instill the population with fear and rage but to continue the “holocaust” tradition of Jewish victimhood as a justification for policies that have led to 62 vetoes in the United Nations by the US, vetoes against sanctions imposed against Israel for violations of international law.

We expect increased attacks on Israel, quickly tied to Hezbollah and Iran, attacks that will either involve no casualties or the deaths of either foreign workers or Russian emigres. This pattern has been used repeatedly, such as the March 18 “attack” killing a lone Thai ”guest” worker time to coincide with the visit of the European Union’s high commissioner for security, Catherine Ashton, a critic of Israel’s apartheid policy in Gaza.

On a side note, 400 children of “guest workers” are being expelled from Israel this week. Eventually all will be expelled, guilty of destroying “the Jewish character” through lack of “racial purity.”

When the US and Israel released Sharam Amiri, alleged Iranian nuclear scientist, we learned one thing. There is an inventory of Muslims, perhaps arrested, perhaps kidnapped, maybe lured into custody, rendition, imprisonment or “cold storage,” whatever you want to call it. Each one has an elaborate “legend” built around them, describing them as a “lone gunman” or “terrorist mastermind.” This is the group that will supply the names and photographs we will see after the next terror attack.

As Wayne Madsen described to us this week, this was the process the CIA and Mossad used to create Osama bin Laden from nothing. The organization we know of as Al Qaeda is, in itself, a false creation, an invention initially to serve as terrorist when we needed them and as enemies when we needed them too:

Press clips gathered by the CIA and discovered in the National Archives’ stored CIA files point to an agency keenly interested in any leaks about the highly-classified CIA-Mossad program to establish Osama Bin Laden and the most radical elements of the Afghan Mujahidin as the primary leaders of the anti-Soviet rebels in the 1980s.

WMR [Wayne Madsen Report] has pored through the CIA files and a complicated picture emerges of America’s and Israel’s top intelligence agencies, in cahoots with Saudi Arabia, establishing financial links and carve out intelligence programs to provide manpower and financial support to Bin Laden and his allies in Afghanistan. It was these very elements that later created the so-called “Al Qaeda,” which the late British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook described as nothing more than a “database” of CIA front organizations, financial supporters, and field operatives. However, one component omitted by Cook in the Al Qaeda construct is the Israeli participation.”



A pattern of evidence is emerging that “cold storage” dupes and CIA/Mossad nurtured organizations may have had a hand in, not only the Mumbai attacks but the London and Madrid bombings as well. Additional trails are leading to attacks on American troops inside Iraq and Afghanistan and against security forces inside Pakistan, particularly against Pakistan’s ISI, primary target of press stories on the recent Wiki-Leak.

Continued...

AMERICA AND THE “TORY NUKES”

There are two reasons to attack America’s “forensic capabilities” when it comes to nuclear weapons. A leak the press chose not to cover, one bringing Israel under scrutiny for egregious violations of international treaties on Nuclear Proliferation, treaties Israel has never signed, were brought to the surface recently. Back on September 22 1979, Israel and South Africa tested a nuclear device, an 18.2 kiloton bomb. This test in a remote area of the Indian Ocean was detected by America’s VELA satellite system and confirmed by acoustic sensors. A forensic signature of this weapon was developed, not only through optics but through particle emissions. When an identical weapon was detonated by North Korea on May 25, 2009, a question was raised. How did a nuclear weapon built by Armscor, an Israel company operating in South Africa, end up in North Korea?

This is the story of the “Tory nukes,” nuclear weapons purchased by Margaret Thatcher in 1991 from South Africa under a secret authorization describing the weapons as “cylinders.” Those involved in putting this bombs into special containers, transporting them to Durban and then off to a container storage facility in Oman from which they disappeared are now filling volumes. When the weapons containers which had laid unguarded for months in a container yard in Oman were forwarded to the United States for dis-assembly in accordance with treaty requirements, only concrete blocks were found. The disappearance has been directly tied to two arms traders who ran illegal trafficking for Israel and South Africa during the Iran-Iraq War.

The accused were business partners in the “Ollie North era” Reagan hijinks known as Iran Contra. The “thieves” were connected to the highest levels of, not only Israeli intelligence but the CIA as well.

Israel says Saddam stole the weapons.

As late as 2003, Tony Blair used this “tale” to back what Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg calls “the illegal invasion of Iraq.” Blair had financial incentives to back the invasion, several million of them, as secret letters leaked to the press but never printed have shown.

PRIME MINISTER DAVID CAMERON, DR. DAVID KELLY AND ARMSCORE

Back in 1990, a very young David Cameron, later to become Prime Minister David Cameron, was offered a free trip to South Africa, paid for by Israeli owned Armscor, a nuclear weapons manufacturer. Cameron was supposedly working with Dr. David Kelly investigating weapons of mass destruction in South Africa. In fact something much different was going on. On January 16, 2005, Tim Shipman, Defense Editor of the Sunday Express released the following story, one never reported in US papers. Today, Dr. David Kelly is dead, clearly murdered because of what he knew and David Cameron is in India carefully reading from a script written in Tel Aviv. This is the 2005 story from the Express:

”Dr. David Kelly, the weapons expert who died in mysterious circumstances after the Iraq war, may have been about to reveal alarming details concerning missing nuclear weapons. Sources familiar with Dr Kelly’s work with South Africa’s security services say he also knew damaging details of how nuclear weapons decommissioned by South Africa were lost in the Middle East in 1991……..

DR. DAVID KELLY, "SUICIDED" MISSING NUKE WHISTLEBLOWER

Informed experts who have contacted the Sunday Express claim the missing nuclear weapons found their way to Iraq. The claims raise new questions about the extent of Dr Kelly’s knowledge of British security secrets, which some insiders believe may have contributed to his death. Some believe he may have been silenced to prevent him revealing more secrets to the media. The South African weapons allegedly went missing in Oman on their way to be decommissioned in the US and may have then been smuggled to Iraq. A source claimed: “Dr Kelly knew about the South African nukes because he worked for research facilities there.

Over the last year intelligence sources in both Britain and America have told journalists they believe that whatever Doomsday arsenal Saddam Hussein had accumulated before the second Gulf War was smuggled into Syria before the Spring 2003 invasion.

Last month the Sunday Express revealed that MI5 investigators looking for details of Dr Kelly’s involvement with the South African government, seized his laptop computers after he died. The coroner charged with investigating the Government scientist’s death has said he will not reopen the case.”



While British and American troops stormed across Iraq in 2003, searching for these missing nukes, defense experts now fear they had been in Israeli hands all along, a secret Dr. David Kelly was no longer willing to keep, one that led to his death. The missing containers may easily have been transferred to the Netherlands, Nigeria or even the United States, perhaps even Indiana or Toledo as is now rumored. British police have raided the homes of many involved in the missing weapons, seizing computers, personal papers and “frightening the hell out of people.” Some of those terrorized are scheduled witnesses for the Iraq War inquiry.

ONLY AMERICAN DEAD CAN PRE-STAGE THE IRAN ATTACK

This summer, Turkey and Brazil negotiated a deal with Iran to remove any nuclear fuel that could be used for weapons development. It was exactly what everyone had been asking for. President Obama ignored it and pushed for sanctions demanded by Israel. Russia cancelled the sale of an S300 air defense system to Iran and voted to back sanctions against its ally, Iran also. The relationship between Tel Aviv and the Russian oligarchs, seen so clearly during the Jonathan Pollard spy scandal, had reappeared for public again though no news organization picked any of this up.

With secret Israeli bases, believed used for transit of narcotics from Afghanistan, ringing Iran, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and other nations in the region, and US supplies and munitions in place or being delivered through Black Sea ports, only American public opinion is holding up an attack on Iran, despite the fact that Iran’s president Ahmadinejad has requested an immediate conference with President Obama to “settle outstanding issues.”

UPSTAGING 9/11

Even though Iran is isolated, even from its Islamic neighbors, it has a substantial defensive capability. Iran can quickly destroy all gulf region oil production facilities and close off shipping to that region, an act likely to collapse all western economies in days. Militarily, however, Iran is unable to defend itself against the vast technological superiority of the United States. However, after a decade of wars with Iraq remaining, not only unstable but increasingly so, and the United States facing defeat in Afghanistan, the American people are unlikely to want to begin a new conflict, especially with an adversary much more powerful than either Iraq and Afghanistan and Israel as the only ally, a country the United States has no mutual defense treaty with and no ability to sustain conflict beyond its own immediate borders for more than 48 hours.

Earlier this year, Israeli military historian Dr. Martin Van Creveld announced Israel’s “King Torah” policy toward the “gentile nations:”

“We have hundreds of nuclear warheads and missiles that can reach different targets in the heart of the European continent, including beyond the borders of Rome, the Italian capital…most European capitals would become preferred targets for the Israeli air force.”



The legal justification for a nuclear attack is in place, part of Israeli law. The will to do so is there if such an attack can be pulled off and few doubt Israel’s ability who have seen the power of the Israeli lobby in Washington and have spoken of their control of the press, such as with the recent media castration of director Oliver Stone.

The tools are in place. Israel is believed to possess two Hiroshima sized nuclear weapons, weapons that can be used freely because the media is ready to claim them to be “stolen” by Muslims if told to do so. The third weapon was exploded by North Korea with the media blackout leaving Israel as the only possible source for this weapon. No nation has the power to black out a leak like that one, not a leak that exposes Israel as a rogue arms dealer, first to apartheid South Africa, then Libya and both Iraq and Iran during their war and finally North Korea.

The ground is prepared, America is now stripped of “forensic” ability to track nuclear explosions, so the cover story tells us. Israel still threatens the world with the missing nukes, weapons reason tells us they control. Any container in any port, any truck, any warehouse could hide these weapons, anywhere in the United States.

When it happens, the vast majority of Americans will find the trail left, Pakistanis, Iranians, all as planned. They will immediately call for the destruction of the Islamic world as is intended by Israel. The internet will be shut down, congress sent home and anyone mentioning that only Israel profits and that only Israel could have done it will be imprisoned, as intended.

They learned from 9/11. Too many questions were asked. They won’t make the same mistake again.

SOURCE
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/08/02/go...ied-king-torah/
 
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so what percentage of people in pakistan believe that 9/11 was a false flag? has there been a poll on PDF?
 
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You know you blamed more than 5 countries being wrong and all somehow conspiring against you? Man do you know how ridiculous this seems? Seriously.

Im really sad to hear that u so naive ...I guess u dont know nothing what is happening around in the world..u dont know nothing about devilz and his groups...
If u never seen it dont think that it dont exists..
go on the website by Alex Jones
www.infowars.com
He is American and gives all the evidences of the false flags operations in the history of the world...:woot::cheesy:
If u want the evidences..in persons..go and visit US and go to the christian churches in any cities all pplz they will tell u the same story maybe more detailed than Alex jones....
Im trying to inform u guyz...never believe the rulerz..they alwayz slaughters the public sometimes in the form of Taxes and sometimes in the form of soldierz killed in the battles..and nowadayz they deviced terrorism evil stuff. To kill and to rule but expose themselves as very sincere pplz. If they are so sincere they should all have left their govt positions cuz they failed to provide security and safety to public. They don't deserve to sit in that post no more,instead they sat there and made it more stronger at the expense of this evil stuff.
Most of the pplz in US knows that the secret society is running the US and most of the world countries their main buisiness is drugs ...who ever enters in that society becomes rich and whoever wants to leave it gets killed..nobody can leave it alive...
U need to go and do the street research there in US ..cant see the evidences by just sitting home ..U gotta go to the crime scenes...
 
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Like comedy-movie "Head-of-State" subconsciously matted down ppl's resentment to upcoming Black-President... Similarly movie "Broken-Arrow" became reality when nukes were flown "ACCIDENTLY"....

Material was gathered long ago for the possible/planned upcoming False-Flag...
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Amazingly main stream news barely gave some airtime to this significant incident. Initially reported to be six nuke-laden missiles taking off... later.. reported that it was five & all five supposedly recovered after flight landed... Probably one was misplaced on-purpose...
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No less than 6-7 crew members involved in handling these nukes died in car/bike "ACCIDENTS"...!!!
Their names were...
1-Todd Blue - Minot AFB(Airforce Base) link
2-a married couple from Barksdale Airbase(Names not released)
3-Stephen Garrett - Minot AFB link
4-Weston Kissel - Minot AFB link
5-John Frueh Link
6-Jonathan Bayless - Minot AFB Link
7-Thomas L. Tinsley - Alleged of breach in following the standards while handling nukes. Link

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Obama, in Berlin speech, hinted that next False-Flag was going to be from Pakistan... (From minutes:8:21)
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These smugs even gave a time-line for next False-Flag... i.e, before 2013... Around time Obama's term would be ending... So that incident can be used to reelect Obama, just like Bush was re.elected on war histeria... Watch em nod heads when speaker says "Focus On pakistan"...
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Movie 2012 has already had ppl's response matted down to some huge destruction in Dec-2012...
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Now coming to question asked in OP...

This False-Flag can be avoided by spreading the word as much as possible and making ppl aware of this phenomenon...

"They" succeed when ppl r oblivious... If majority wakes-up "they" won't even attempt that false-flag...

I presume General-Kayani's extension was forced by army & reason is that army is wary of plans to destablize Pakistan by bringing politicians against military... This was to be done by denying extension to Kayani...
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Finally a sincere suggestion to North American dwellars.... DO NOT be present in USA during end-of-2012...
 
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With a false flag terror attack by Indian terrorist govt, RAW and Indian Army:

Indian planners could do a sharp small intrusion (10 -15 KM using SF) to claim superiority/ success we would be pressured not to retaliate. incursion on a similar scale that they did in Myanmar.

make headlines, make them feel more proud and in return they will offer NS gov to return to negotiation table with all options including kashmir.

this scenario will humiliate Pakistan military and national psyche.

Modi will get his promised of teaching a lesson done, his popularity rises many folds

i am afraid our spine less government will bogged down to external pressures in return of personal favors and false promises like in 1999

I am afraid ....
 
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In reality to attack Pakistan by America or Indian or by XYZ is not easy because when US did OSama raid what China did is unheard of after world war and should the world that Pakistan is not alone .
So let them cry wolf wolf they cannot do shit to Pakistan .
And if India do some thing by her self will see its disintegration in to small princely states period lol
 
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Next false flag by Indian govt and Afghani slave govt to destablise Pakistan.


India is loosing its standing in world as a state sponsored terrorism in Kashmirs...Kashmirs now want independence as quickly as possible from Indian occupation....see all the diversionary tactics coming.
 
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Next false flag by Indian govt and Afghani slave govt to destablise Pakistan.


India is loosing its standing in world as a state sponsored terrorism in Kashmirs...Kashmirs now want independence as quickly as possible from Indian occupation....see all the diversionary tactics coming.

You are a miracle worker sir. You just brought back a thread from 2010 back to life!! :lol:

Even though there was a failed attempt in 2015 to so so :P
 
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This is a thread under discussion in another "Pakistani defence forum with some interesting question"... Im trying to take the views from each other regarding Pakistan's stability and security under the present world situations:

The stage seems to be set to blame Pakistan and the ISI for the next false flag terrorist attack. We need to start thinking about how we'll deal with it.

The current crusades were launched after the false flag on America (911) was blamed on Muslims. No proof has yet been presented to justify American claims. In fact, a hundred questions about it still remain unanswered. Unfortunately no Muslim country has officially challenged the official American version of the event so the general belief still prevails that Muslims were to blame for it and every single Muslim in the world is somehow guilty.

Later the British, Australians, Spanish also arranged attacks on themselves to join the American crusade. Lastly the Indians did the Bombay drama and blamed Pakistan and the Pakistan government has never properly challenged the Indian accusation.

Now the stage has been set for the next event. Hilary Clinton has said that the next attack on America will come from Pakistan and the American Military Chief has said that the next attack on India will come from Pakistan. The ISI has been demonized and the WikiLeaks have pinned the blame on the ISI for the American defeat in Afghanistan. The Western public mind has been prepared to blame Pakistan just like OBL was demonized before 911 so that when it was executed the American media blamed OBL while 911 was still going on. It is easy to visualize the next terrorist attack during which the TV channels will be blaming Pakistan, ISI, LeT as the event is happening.

We need to get our strategy right on how we will deal with the next big one.

1) Will it be in America or India?
2) Will Pakistan be given any time to respond or will it come under attack immediately. The Indian cold start doctrine might come into play.
3) Will Zardari accept the blame or will Pakistan call it a false flag?
4) How will the Pakistani media handle it? Their performance till now has been pathetic and a lot of the media have business deals with the US and India.
5) Will Pakistan be given an ultimatum to surrender like Musharraf was threatened with being bombed back to the stone age?
6) Will Pakistan give in or stand its ground?
7) Will Pakistan accept American/Indian bombing of its territory in order to avoid a full scale war?
8) Will Pakistan start attacking the Afghan Taliban in order to avoid being bombed?
9) If Pakistan stands up to American/Indian threats what will be the consequence?
10) Will the Americans be able to take control of Pakistan's nukes or at least render them in-operational while India attacks without fear?
11) Will Pakistan shut down the American supply routes?
12) Will the Americans try to occupy Baluchistan to restore supply lines?
13) Will the American-backed TTP start a massive suicide bombing campaign in Pakistan?
14) Will American forces enter Pakistan? From Afghanistan or the sea?
15) Will the Pakistan military fire on the Americans or will they fight with India while still treating America as a dear old friend?
16) Will Blackwater do large scale sabotage inside Pakistan?
17) Will the CIA-backed Zardari be eliminated or not?
18) What will be the outcome?

Another possibility is that the idea of a false-flag to be blamed on Pakistan is just a tactic to scare Pakistan into doing what the enemies want and in reality they have no plan to actually do it. By just making it seem like they'll do it they may be able to coerce Pakistan into bending to their wishes.

The reason to believe that they'll actually do it is that American cannot leave without finishing the job within Pakistan, and that job is to de-nuke it. That is the reasons the Americans are in Afghanistan and they WILL NOT go before this job is done. For years they've tried to destroy Pakistan internally by regime change, economic collapse, suicide bombings, BLA, TTP, Zardari etc but Pakistan is still standing. The Yugoslavia doctrine has so far failed to work in Pakistan. According to their calculations Pakistan should have collapsed by now but since it hasn't they may need to do a direct attack.

From India's perspective this is the golden opportunity that they could only dream about. The Americans and NATO sitting in Afghanistan ready to help India finish off Pakistan. They will never get this opportunity again so they have to take the risk now. They must have been assured by the Americans about suppressing the nukes.
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Next time we won't just blame..
 
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LOL India will do bomb blast in pakistan and it will respond in kind against India. Bomb the crap out of India.
 
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First thing first, keep the airborne early warning systems airborne and dispersed.
 
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