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How the "End to VIP culture - PIA" video is leading to anarchy

My uncle who works at an Islamabad airport told me that when a flight is delayed for any reason, VIPs often stay in the first class waiting area until they are told that the flight is ready to depart. Why would a VIP board an airplane when he knows that the flight is delayed for half an hour.

I am sure some of you have traveled from business class and you know very well that there is a separate waiting lounge for business class/first class passengers where they are served food, beverages and get to watch tv or use internet. When the flight is delayed, they are told so they could wait in the lounge instead of crowding in the airplane.

We need to be logical here guys. What I just wrote is something that I was told by a seasoned airport staff member (my uncle) who has been working at islamabad and other airports for the last 30 years.

In rehman malik's case, when he arrived at the airport, he was told about the flight being delayed. So he decided to stay at the business class lounge until the airplane gets the green signal. Once the airplane received the green signal, rehman malik heads towards his jet where an angry mod started bashing him for holding up the aircraft.
Let's just say Rehman malik was indeed late. There was another passenger, PMLn parliamentary. He said he was already there but didn't want to board because plane wasn't ready. He was kicked out because "why didn't he wait inside the plane like others."

Honestly, who would wait inside PIA plane, even when choosing business class (he had economy one). I fly very regularly and I see on time flights. These "VIPs" pop out at the last minute, go through express lane (VIP lane) and no one makes fuss about it. Mind you, these VIPs are ones who have loyalty cards with the airline or whatnot. They are paying for it.
 
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To begin with, I do not uphold the views that VIP culture should persist. But at the same time, taking decision into hands can lead to a bad consequence. It may not be at that time, but in the future it certainly fools the people. Such was the case in recent PK-306 flight (of which there is a thread posted here and many users are found chanting "end to VIP."

There was video, and that was it only. On one video we decided to base our views upon. We refused to see that that specific flight is always delayed. Taking a closer look, at this page: Pakistan International Airlines Corporation (PIA) (PK) #306 ✈ FlightAware we can see that over the past week, the flight has never once departed at the scheduled time.

Furthermore, a person from the same flight posted a different story that is being portrayed in the video:

I was on that flight PK-306 A-310 at 19:00 flew at 20:15 captain announced two times and third time at around 19:45 that Cargo is delayed due to Ground transfer vehicle got burst on way and will be transported by other vehicle I again mention "CARGO" and not Luggage of VIP "As it can be of HAJJ passengers of connecting flight" that was my thought and to give space to my fellow countrymen who perform Hajj also to Understand that PIA is these days in a special flight routine, passengers are himself to blame specially the one lead the mob he was the last person to enter the plane I don't know what they wanted to achieve with thinking by himself that might is right and forcing other to follow without realizing that other than 30 the whole plane was sitting patiently and thinking what they are upto, The way this Idiot is forcing "Kholo Darwaza" can be done by any HiJackers .

The crew was nice to give water when everyone settle down earlier to their seat when the door was closed & after this incident even then people wanted something out of this and to expand negative energy by posting this video I was also surprised with full dinner was served on the flight as the flight was earlier mentioned without meal.

If PIA wanted to go ahead in a court of law against those passengers I wanted to be a witness against those people They "Terrorized"

Aroosh Naqvi was also on this flight many PIA ex senior captains were there witnessing.

Air Conditioner was perfectly fine and finally on landing at Lahore I clapped for Head Purser and his team to keep their moral high

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Delayed flights of PIA is a regular occurrence. Looking at Pakistan Int. Airlines aircraft list - Flightradar24 page, we can view the delay times of specific planes. Now although we do see some planes arriving nearly on time, we must take note of departure time, which is almost never on time. This means the pilot has to use a higher speed or whatnot to make it to the gate on time or as close as possible. Here is a good example: AP-BHV - Pakistan Int. Airlines - Aircraft info and flight history - Flightradar24 This plane has not once over the past 15 flights departed on time. So do we say that there is some VIP man who loves this airplane and is the reason behind delay? No.


Whatever happened, happened. But for the future, we need to remain calm and not pin every PIA delay on "VIP" and take matter into our hands. If some people refuse, PIA can very likely be barred from international flights as what is happening can be deemed as hijacking (passengers being in charge of it). No country would like allow an airplane to land with regular hijackings.

The video for the curious:




One of my uncles told me how in 1980s, urdu speaking passengers would burn down a Pathan owned bus in case of an accident. Bushra Ansari case is well known.

But there were daily occurrences like Bushra case.

Did that type of mob violence by Urdu Speaking people against Pathan bus drivers fix the traffic issues in Karachi?

Heck no.

It in fact increased the violence in karachi to the point that now the whole city is suffering from mob violence .


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What happened on PIA flight was mob violence .

Where "hated object" was given mob justice .

This was no different from mob violence by people against an innocent Christian couple

or the quick justice by an ASI when he used an axe to kill a blasphemer


We in Pakistan are losing our humanity, and politicians like IK and Sh Rasheed and TuQ are all the leaders of mob violence .
 
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Juttay maro in ko..
inkay amma abba nay maray hotay naa tou inko iss umer mein nai khanay partay :angel:

In rehman malik's case, when he arrived at the airport, he was told about the flight being delayed. So he decided to stay at the business class lounge until the airplane gets the green signal. Once the airplane received the green signal, rehman malik heads towards his jet where an angry mod started bashing him for holding up the aircraft.
However the OTHER NORMAL passengers got txted that their flight is on time? :azn:

And the "OTHER NORMAL" passengers claimed they were waiting ON THE AIRCRAFT for 2 hrs or so....
 
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inkay amma abba nay maray hotay naa tou inko iss umer mein nai khanay partay :angel:


However the OTHER NORMAL passengers got txted that their flight is on time? :azn:

And the "OTHER NORMAL" passengers claimed they were waiting ON THE AIRCRAFT for 2 hrs or so....
There is a lot of controversy. A lot of passengers claimed that they did receive a text regarding the flight being delayed hence they all arrived late. Its not like the whole crowd entered all at once. But anyways, this flash mob mentality needs to go. This has absolutely no place in Pakistan. Our minorities are already suffering from this mob mentality. Lets get rid of this mentality and act civilized rather than taking law into our own hands
 
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One of my uncles told me how in 1980s, urdu speaking passengers would burn down a Pathan owned bus in case of an accident. Bushra Ansari case is well known.
But there were daily occurrences like Bushra case. .

Your whole post is spot on.
But let me re-call the days around the Bushra Ansari event. Memory is fading. It was almost 30 years ago. Back in the mid 80s MQM was a fledgling organization. But the 'awakening' in Urdu speakers was rising. Of course it suited the Haram Khor General Zia to have different factions fighting each other off than to pose a combined challenge against his evil rule. But I digress.

During those days the 'Mini Buses' in Karachi were called some thing like 'Yellow Devils'--due to their yellow paint and reckless (Pathan) drivers. Larger buses were also mostly driven by Pathan drivers. There was an accident--and it was an accident but one in which the bus driver was most probably responsible at least indirectly. Anyway, the Urdu Speaking people of Karachi--already wary of the huge influx of the Afghan (gun toting/Opium peddling) refugees, wrongly targeted the Pathan community of Karachi. Our great General Zia allowed and encouraged millions of guntoting/drug peddling extremely backward Afghan refugees to freely settle down anywhere in Pakistan!!!

Then, as memory recalls, MQM led mass demonstrators were going to Hyderabad as protest. To Puqqa Qila. They were fired upon along route near Sohrab Goth--barely out of Karachi. So there was more violence. I was a student at Karachi University then. The university was closed for some time. After it re-opened, I was told by one of the Pathan 'Chowkidars' on campus that the MQM demonstrators stopped their vehicles at Sohrab Goth in front of houses and started to dance naked on the roof of the buses!!! And that caused Pathans to fire at MQM.

I think that day was 31 October (1986?). A true Halloween came to Karachi then. Even then I had realized that, from then on, MQM would be a major force--it had shed the blood. And I think I was proved right: There was a rival 'Mohajir Ittehad Terhreek' by a certain doctor Saleem Haider (?) but they lost to MQM from that day on.

PS. Pathans and Urdu speakers--and indeed, with the exception of brief clashes between Urdu Speakers and Sindhis in the 70's, the Urdu Speakers HAD gotten along fine with all ethnic groups in Karachi. But Zia's misrule changed all that. There can be PhD level dissertations about that topic alone.
 
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PS. Pathans and Urdu speakers--and indeed, with the exception of brief clashes between Urdu Speakers and Sindhis in the 70's, the Urdu Speakers HAD gotten along fine with all ethnic groups in Karachi. But Zia's misrule changed all that. There can be PhD level dissertations about that topic alone.
So you blame Zia for the rise of cancerous ethno-linguistic party called MQM? Good, I blame Bhutto for promoting Zia as COAS without merit thinking he was harmless little general :D
 
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So you blame Zia for the rise of cancerous ethno-linguistic party called MQM? Good, I blame Bhutto for promoting Zia as COAS without merit thinking he was harmless little general :D

Why don't we blame Baba Adam and Amma Hawwa for all this and be done with the whole shebang.
 
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A lot of passengers claimed that they did receive a text regarding the flight being delayed hence they all arrived late.
The video shown on this very forum spoke differently it was a video of a chat with PIA who stated ALL but "some" (2) passengers were on board...and a handful of these on board were pissed for waiting for 2 hrs ON THE PLANE....How did they board without PIA opening the gates??


But anyways, this flash mob mentality needs to go. This has absolutely no place in Pakistan. Our minorities are already suffering from this mob mentality. Lets get rid of this mentality and act civilized rather than taking law into our own hands
Where minorities are concerned it is not just the flash mob but also the courts...

According to Shariah, death penalty is the last resort EVEN in blasphemy cases but in Pakistan the court is trigger happy to give it as though it is the ONLY punishment for blasphemy!

Civilized people live only when the laws are trustworthy and are not being misused left and right...

People become civilized when laws are in order to regulate crimes ....

When was the last rapist prosecuted in Islamabad? almost 5-7 yrs back....when was the woman accused of fornication (when in reality was raped) - If I am not wrong few months back - What sort of "insaaf" do you expect from these kinds of laws?

When was the last asshole locked up for throwing acid on women? -Try never..When was the last mentally challenged person thrown in jail or prosecuted? Not very long back- What sort of "insaaf" do you expect from these kinds of laws?

When was the last "influential" person who murdered an innocent given the death penalty? Try never - What sort of "insaaf" do you expect from these kinds of laws?

I could go on!
 
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The video shown on this very forum spoke differently it was a video of a chat with PIA who stated ALL but "some" (2) passengers were on board...and a handful of these on board were pissed for waiting for 2 hrs ON THE PLANE....How did they board without PIA opening the gates??



Where minorities are concerned it is not just the flash mob but also the courts...

According to Shariah, death penalty is the last resort EVEN in blasphemy cases but in Pakistan the court is trigger happy to give it as though it is the ONLY punishment for blasphemy!

Civilized people live only when the laws are trustworthy and are not being misused left and right...

People become civilized when laws are in order to regulate crimes ....

When was the last rapist prosecuted in Islamabad? almost 5-7 yrs back....when was the woman accused of fornication (when in reality was raped) - If I am not wrong few months back - What sort of "insaaf" do you expect from these kinds of laws?

When was the last asshole locked up for throwing acid on women? -Try never..When was the last mentally challenged person thrown in jail or prosecuted? Not very long back- What sort of "insaaf" do you expect from these kinds of laws?

When was the last "influential" person who murdered an innocent given the death penalty? Try never - What sort of "insaaf" do you expect from these kinds of laws?

I could go on!
Last person? Wasn't that shazeb murderer given death penalty ? Then parents settled for Australia citizenship nd lots of money
 
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Last person? Wasn't that shazeb murderer given death penalty ? Then parents settled for Australia citizenship nd lots of money
Please I wrote this:


According to Shariah, death penalty is the last resort EVEN in blasphemy cases but in Pakistan the court is trigger happy to give it as though it is the ONLY punishment for blasphemy!
 
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One of my uncles told me how in 1980s, urdu speaking passengers would burn down a Pathan owned bus in case of an accident. Bushra Ansari case is well known.

But there were daily occurrences like Bushra case.

Did that type of mob violence by Urdu Speaking people against Pathan bus drivers fix the traffic issues in Karachi?

Heck no.

It in fact increased the violence in karachi to the point that now the whole city is suffering from mob violence .


Similarly

What happened on PIA flight was mob violence .

Where "hated object" was given mob justice .

This was no different from mob violence by people against an innocent Christian couple

or the quick justice by an ASI when he used an axe to kill a blasphemer


We in Pakistan are losing our humanity, and politicians like IK and Sh Rasheed and TuQ are all the leaders of mob violence .
Didn't your ANKEL told you the stories about urdu speaking peoples before 80's. you are same like other MY Dad, My Friend, My falana falana, write down all about how it start or just shut up?
 
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