How should Iran respond to recent Terror attack in Iran?

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

Iran can solve this problem relatively easy, without use of bullets and missiles. Free lands and building parcels should be given to poor citizens from whole Iran who are planning to live in Khuzistan, Baluchestan and Kurdistan provinces to build houses there. This will change the demography of the region and benefit the mix and integration of all Iranians.

Secondly there should be extra subsidies and also free lands given to companies who move their company or start their company in these provinces, with the condition that they give jobs to more than 5 or 10 local citizens who're living there more than 5 years. This will benefit the local economy and also bring people from other parts of Iran into these provinces, leading to integration and mix of locals and newcomers.

And finally security measures should be taken against local separatists and radical sunnis. Even if they don't take part in attacks or violent, but spread these kind of propaganda, they should be jailed and put in labor camps and must follow re-education about history and culture of Iran and learning a skill.

If they continue with their hate against Iran, their punishment should be doubled. First time they should be jailed 1 to 2 years. After that each time they again follow their old habit, then the punishment should be doubled.

If islamists and globalists, internal and foreign communist animals call this colonization, racism, opression etc, then I hope their kids and mothers die in terror attacks. In this forum some supporters of pig-face khamenei accused/attacked me because of my proposals and preventive plans for these kind of problems that Iran is facing today. Many years ago I predicted todays problems in Iran while they were busy here beating each other on head over the famous puppetry reformist-conservative theatre/show (created by dalton-brothers-and-khamenei-backed-larijani-mob/gang, to send their own children to europe and usa while stealing money from people in Iran)

 

[PeeD]

It's best to deploy diverse solutions in case of system failures, hiccups and saturation. How many targets can each solution engage at once?

Also wouldn't Sayyad 3 make sense to be the 105 km missile for 3rd of Khordad? They are already utilizing Sayyad 2.


Regardless, I really want these systems to get field tested. Iran should deploy them as soon as Syria's S-300 systems arrive and operationalize.

System diversity is of course important. The 12 100mm AAA and and 6 23mm AAA batteries of my model could engage 18 targets simultaneously and re-engage every few seconds another 18.
PK wise a single round 100mm shot would probably have a 30% chance to kill a SDB at 6km, with a 4-round burst reaching 80%.
A Mesbah-2 battery 64 round burst would probably have a 90% PK against a SDB at 2km.

So if 4 SDB approach the airfield of my campaign, each one will be attacked by single shots of 100mm guns until kill.

If single shot 100mm rounds would have high PK against slow, energy-optimized trajectory PGMs like the SDB, those 12 batteries could kill 384 without reloading.

If 150 SDB are approaching, all at the same time, those 12 100mm batteries can probably do the job alone at highest cost efficiency.

If more than those 150 simultaneous SDB are approaching 23mm gun batteries will also be needed.

If 100 fast PGMs approach simultaneously multi-round bursts will be necessary.

If more than 300 SDB are approaching simultaneously, missile systems of Tabas and 3rd Khordad will be needed and that would saturate them over the time because the high cost for missiles.

As said, I don't expect SDBs to be delivered from ranges beyond 75-80km and that is the range of the 3rd Khordad. Killing the carrier is the goal, killing munitions only last the defense. Soft-kill via moving away or e.g jamming, another method.

Whether the Sayyad-3 would make sense here depends. For now it is only for IRIADF Talash S-200 sites.
The IRGC has used Sayyad-2 on 3rd Khordad but they favour their own Taer series. The Sayyad-2 offers a certain advantage over the Taer series but they probably just tested compatibility of 3rd Khordad to their Sayyad-2 arsenal.
So if there is a kind of lengthened "Taer-3" with 105km high-PK range, it will be used instead of the Sayyad-3. The Sayyad-3 at 120km is probably already outside the range that the 3rd Khordad radar can effectively support.

Point is: No cost effective unpowered munition can be delivered from more than those 105km away. Exceptions like the JSOW are rare and the given range not really credible.

The mass of ADS in my proposed campaign would be the 30 single-TELAR low-footprint Tabas. Those could be hidden at forward locations, 75km away from the protected node (while themselves still inside the protected area) and then add their own 75km range for a total of 150km. Attacking PGM or even reconnaissance assets at 150km is sufficient for such a no fly zone.

My no flight zone would thus be able to halt a 300 SDB simultaneous attack very cost efficiently and still be able to handle more. Plus put enemy weapon carriers at threat inside a 300km airspace circle.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Iran can solve this problem relatively easy, without use of bullets and missiles. Free lands and building parcels should be given to poor citizens from whole Iran who are planning to live in Khuzistan, Baluchestan and Kurdistan provinces to build houses there. This will change the demography of the region and benefit the mix and integration of all Iranians.

Secondly there should be extra subsidies and also free lands given to companies who move their company or start their company in these provinces, with the condition that they give jobs to more than 5 or 10 local citizens who're living there more than 5 years. This will benefit the local economy and also bring people from other parts of Iran into these provinces, leading to integration and mix of locals and newcomers.

And finally security measures should be taken against local separatists and radical sunnis. Even if they don't take part in attacks or violent, but spread these kind of propaganda, they should be jailed and put in labor camps and must follow re-education about history and culture of Iran and learning a skill.

If they continue with their hate against Iran, their punishment should be doubled. First time they should be jailed 1 to 2 years. After that each time they again follow their old habit, then the punishment should be doubled.

If islamists and globalists, internal and foreign communist animals call this colonization, racism, opression etc, then I hope their kids and mothers die in terror attacks. In this forum some supporters of pig-face khamenei accused/attacked me because of my proposals and preventive plans for these kind of problems that Iran is facing today. Many years ago I predicted todays problems in Iran while they were busy here beating each other on head about the famous puppetry reformist-conservative theatre/show (created by dalton-brothers-and-khamenei-backed-larijani-mob/gang, to send their own children to europe and usa while stealing money from people in Iran)

That's very nice, can you also get rid of all these old cleric retarded animals that ruin the life's of regular people within Iran and its neighbors through exports of hezbollah. Once Iran deals with them they will also go to trash in Iraq, oherwise we obviously won't get rid of them.

 

[Sineva]

What your suggesting is far from sufficient to combat the entire Israeli Air Force we would simply end up embarrassing ourselves and losing nearly a Billion USD in the process.

I would say in Syria at an absolute max we take a few low cost Iranian built Early Warning systems + 20 Mesbah AAA system + ~10 Optical Raad system (Not Buk) + 1 Tabas + one 3rd of Khordad.(Just to test them out)
And instead of the Fatteh-110B Iran should produce a cheap 250km Cruise Missiles using cheaper micro jets engine(Single compressor, single turbine, ~250lbf, lifespan of +30min at max cruise speed & ~5min at max thrust that cost under $500 USD per engine) on a light composite Airframe with cruise speed of ~500kph with under 200lb warhead that uses INS & Optics for guidance (basically a cheaper version of the Ya Ali with each missile costing no more than $5000-$10,000 USD depending on the warhead and optics)

The price of thermal camera's has greatly reduced
https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...spm=a2700.details.maylikever.5.6322216aKeyujX
And a rather simple INS will get you to within ~5km of your target where counter imaging could do the rest and in Syria it would even be more preferable if your missile didn't fly so close to the ground

And instead of 60 Sh-129 I would say 50 lighter and cheaper UAV's Yaser's, Mohajer-4&6,.... and no more than 20 Sh-129's​

Optical Raad

Allowing additional funding to aid our brother in Yemen!

The french played around with something similar to the optical raad back in the early 70s,the javelot which fired unguided salvos of fin stabilized rockets for aa defence

 

[VEVAK]

The french played around with something similar to the optical raad back in the early 70s,the javelot which fired unguided salvos of fin stabilized rockets for aa defence

Israeli's use cheap algorithm based missiles with a low cost seeker for fixed trajectory rockets and SHORAD and Iran can over time enhance it optical raad's to something similar for SHORAD operations
Today you can buy a cheap FLIR camera for $200 USD as an add on attachment to a smart phone off the shelf so if you can get your missiles close enough using an algorithm you can easily develop something that would cost you no more than additional $2000 USD per missile using off the shelf equipment (if you produce it yourself a fraction of that) which will allow you to reduced the number of missiles that need to be launched per target allowing you to hit more targets which would be a great added layer for SHORAD operation

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

That's very nice, can you also get rid of all these old cleric retarded animals that ruin the life's of regular people within Iran and its neighbors through exports of hezbollah. Once Iran deals with them they will also go to trash in Iraq, oherwise we obviously won't get rid of them.

We cannot get rid of them because various reasons. They will kill all people if they are in danger. Also there is no alternative to replace them, so Iran could become chaotic if they are removed. Enemies and separatists are waiting for such moment. The so called foreign opposition are sell out traitors who receive money from Saudi, USA, cia, Mossad etc. First thing they will do is stopping missile and nuclear program and allowing separation of Iran. They want to make an Iraq/Afghanistan/Syria inside Iran. That's why the current regime is staying. I can only hope for big reforms, but I'm against revolution. We made a revolution in 1979 and saw the results, we dont need another one. We dont want foreign traitors coming to Iran, even while a pig-son (khamenei) and triator gang (larijanis) are ruling Iran.