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Racism exists everywhere. Even though US has a "black" president (he's only half black by the way), many Americans still are racist against colored people. Just turn on Fox news and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Pakistanis are not that racist, we just have problems with Indians but that has a lot to do with history, wars, and disputes with India.
 
Racism exists everywhere. Even though US has a "black" president (he's only half black by the way), many Americans still are racist against colored people. Just turn on Fox news and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Pakistanis are not that racist, we just have problems with Indians but that has a lot to do with history, wars, and disputes with India.

pakistani's and indians hating each other is not racism, rather enemity and the grievences which we have with each other.

How can pakistan not be racist - dont you guys stereotype - Pathans or far that matter Muhajirs.
Here in the UK many of my good friends are pakistani's and they are as racist as any other Indian ( including me ).
Eg. When you see a african guy - What do you - Kale ko dekh or something like that.

Hopefully over a period of time this kind racism will be gone. :cheers:
 
pakistani's and indians hating each other is not racism, rather enemity and the grievences which we have with each other.

How can pakistan not be racist - dont you guys stereotype - Pathans or far that matter Muhajirs.
Here in the UK many of my good friends are pakistani's and they are as racist as any other Indian ( including me ).
Eg. When you see a african guy - What do you - Kale ko dekh or something like that.

Hopefully over a period of time this kind racism will be gone. :cheers:

That is not true. Those are individual people who make those comments. Most Pakistanis are not like that. Go to any Mosque in US or UK you will see a Pakistani Muslim and a Black Muslim reading prayers together shoulder to shoulder. I know that Indians have problems with Blacks, but if we Pakistanis had to make a choice between a Somalian Muslim or a Hindu Indian we would chose the Somalian Muslim.

And regarding ethnic groups of Pakistan, most Pakistanis dont discriminate against a person's ethnic group, some put too much importance in their ethnic group but you will also find that in India.

Maybe for Pakistanis discrimination towards a Religion is more common than discrimination towards a Race.
 
That is not true. Those are individual people who make those comments. Most Pakistanis are not like that. Go to any Mosque in US or UK you will see a Pakistani Muslim and a Black Muslim reading prayers together shoulder to shoulder. I know that Indians have problems with Blacks, but if we Pakistanis had to make a choice between a Somalian Muslim or a Hindu Indian we would chose the Somalian Muslim.

And regarding ethnic groups of Pakistan, most Pakistanis dont discriminate against a person's ethnic group, some put too much importance in their ethnic group but you will also find that in India.

Maybe for Pakistanis discrimination towards a Religion is more common than discrimination towards a Race.

Ok omar I will try to agree with you - but would you say If a Somalian Muslim guy wants to marry a pakistani girl - will that be accepted - I dont think so then the religion will go out of the window and then comes the Colour and culture
 
Ok omar I will try to agree with you - but would you say If a Somalian Muslim guy wants to marry a pakistani girl - will that be accepted - I dont think so then the religion will go out of the window and then comes the Colour and culture

Marriage is different. Many Pakistanis still dont marry outside their ethnic groups or tribes, but hardly any Pakistani marries outside their Religion.
 
Its a shame to see the haterd in the world all i can say i love those who love peace and dislike those you hate peace!
 
That is not true. Those are individual people who make those comments. Most Pakistanis are not like that. Go to any Mosque in US or UK you will see a Pakistani Muslim and a Black Muslim reading prayers together shoulder to shoulder. I know that Indians have problems with Blacks, but if we Pakistanis had to make a choice between a Somalian Muslim or a Hindu Indian we would chose the Somalian Muslim.

And regarding ethnic groups of Pakistan, most Pakistanis dont discriminate against a person's ethnic group, some put too much importance in their ethnic group but you will also find that in India.

Maybe for Pakistanis discrimination towards a Religion is more common than discrimination towards a Race.

Omar bhai, most Pakistanis would choose a ANYONE over a Hindu Indian ...... so bad example.

Though I agree with what you say to an extent ...... for Pakistanis, their Islamic identity is a strong (if not the strongest) driver, hence the love and tolerance towards the Somalian African. Would it be the same for a non-muslim African? I seriously doubt it.

I can't recall which thread, but there was this enlightened Pakistani poster talking about Pakistani fair big built sharp nosed features against kala sri lankan looking majority Indians ...... that is racism.

Gore hatte katte Pathans looking down on their "brother compatriot" lesser muslim kale muhajir bhai is also racism.

Balochis proud of their Persian-Afghan lineage looking down on the rest of dravidianised Pakistanis is also racism.

And Indians and Pakistanis hating each other has nothing to do with racism ..... it is purely religious intolerance amongst what are essentially the same people. There is a huge thread with hugely informed posters on the genetic make up of our populations to prove this.

Lets please not sit on high horses.

Cheers, Doc
 
No its not!

Hmmm.. so its ET.

Please don't do time pass chit chat, Whats your input on this if it not natural human instinct.


So if the dog was white that trespassed into the territory of another dog that was also white, it would not would not bark?

Self contradictory^^ so it is natural human instinct. White dog don't bite another white dog cause he is form the same group. This is again a kind of racism.


Good on you, so you are racist or not?

Honesty is the best policy.
 
Anyone who thinks they aren't racist are dissimulating, do not know themselves, or have truly reached Nirvana.

We are all racist. By itself that is not bad if we realize it, guard against it and by our actions deny racism.

Also, based on what I have seen and read (one person's view) the suggestion that Pakistanis are less racist than Indians (who are also pretty racist) is completely wrong, IMO.
 
Anyone who thinks they aren't racist are dissimulating, do not know themselves, or have truly reached Nirvana.

We are all racist. By itself that is not bad if we realize it, guard against it and by our actions deny racism.

Also, based on what I have seen and read (one person's view) the suggestion that Pakistanis are less racist than Indians (who are also pretty racist) is completely wrong, IMO.

i think you cant speak on behalf of the others, not everybody is racist.
 
This is actually a pet subject of mine and I'm with EyelessInGaza when he says that ALL humans to some extent or the other are racist. But being racist is not necessarily a bad thing when you come to think about it. And when you dig deeper into what constitutes what the world loosely calls "racist."

What is racist and/or racism? If you are talking about hatred and violence and subjugation of one race by another then I am against it 100%. But lets face it guys, not all men are born equal. And over millenia of evolution, affected by geography, the environment, the means of living, etc. man has diverged along different paths, picked up different attributes, different skills, different physical features, heck even different diseases and pathophysiological afflictions and immune patterns, which till very recently (in terms of human history) were islands unto themselves, undisturbed over millenia, till the age of discovery, of conquests, as the world became truly a smaller place.

The concept or "anchoring moors" of Religion and much later of Nationalities (with artificial manmade lines on paper maps) therefore are far "weaker" and much more on-the-surface less subliminal tethers to the human psyche than his race, if you rise above "modern society" as we know it and take a more macro and holistic bird's eye view of human history, anthropology, and evolution of civilizations.

Its encoded into our genes over millenia ...... the shared history of birth, growth, development, and maturity of a common people ...... the human tree, with its myriad trunks, roots, branches, and twigs. Many if not most of the countries we see on earth today are nascent buds on this giant tree.

Some like Iran (Persia), India, China, Greece, etc. have stayed essentially the same since ancient times, barring some recent boundary modifications, which in the larger scheme of things is nothing but the acorn not falling too far from the old oak tree. There's a lot to be said for "racism" so don't diss it before first trying to understand it.

Cheers, Doc
 
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This is actually a pet subject of mine and I'm with EyelessInGaza when he says that ALL humans to some extent or the other are racist. But being racist is not necessarily a bad thing when you come to think about it. And when you dig deeper into what constitutes what the world loosely calls "racist." What is racist and/or racism? If you are talking about hatred and violence and subjugation of one race by another then I am against it 100%. But lets face it guys, not all men are born equal. And over millenia of evolution, affected by geography, the environment, the emans of living, etc. man has diverged along different paths, picked up different attributes, different skills, different physical features, heck even different diseases and pathophysiological afflictions and immune patterns, which till very recently (in terms of human history) were islands unto themselves, undisturbed over millenia, till the age of discovery, of conquests, as the world became truly a smaller place. The concept or "anchoring moors" of Religion and much later of Nationalities (with artificial manmade lines on paper maps) therefore are far "weaker" and much more on-the-surface less subliminal tethers to the human psyche than his race, if you rise above "modern society" as we know it and take a more macro and holistic bird's eye view of human history, anthropology, and evolution of civilizations. Its encoded into our genes over millenia ...... the shared history of birth, growth, development, and maturity of a common people ...... the human tree, with its myriad trunks, roots, branches, and twigs. Many if not most of the countries we see on earth today are nascent buds on this giant tree. Some like Iran (Persia), India, China, Greece, etc. have stayed essentially the same since ancient times, barring some recent boundary modifications, which in the larger scheme of things is nothing but the acorn not falling too far from the old oak tree. There's a lot to be said for "racism" so don't diss it before first trying to understand it.

Cheers, Doc

Dear doc. Pet subject of yours or not - some line breaks would be nice - with all due respect.

I chugged through your one big paragraph to basically get the impression that you are a believer in the supposedly status-neutral, non-judgmental, non-hegemonic concept of "racialism".

Why don't you just come out and say that in so many words? If I got the wrong impression, then please correct by all means.

:cheers:
 
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