How PAF Should Counter the SU-30 MKI

[joekrish]

What is the best BVR that Pakistan has?

 

[RazPaK]

Why are Indians so BVR-centric?

 

[Skull and Bones]

What is the best BVR that Pakistan has?

F-16 Blk 52, they got 18 of such fighter.

 

[GURU DUTT]

1 or 2 months back, indian SU-30MKI crashed in Pune i guess.

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Indian Fanboys always forgot, All F-16 in Pakistani inventory have JHMCS and AIM-120 C5 and block 52+ radar can easily detect SU-30MKI at 100-KM due to its hugh RCS!

really...im so scared.........brrrrrrrrrr????
but what about

Mirage 2000-9 (Ungraded Radar, engine, MICA and METEOR integrated)
Mig-29 UPG (Longer range with CFT, upgraded radar and avionics, better ECMs)
Jaguar (better engine, perfect for strike role near border areas)
Mig-27 (Ground Attack)
Pcalcon's+aerostat+greenpine+french 3D+Indra2 & Rohini 3D radar's & not to mention Mki's powerfull BARS ESA Radar's with 200km+ Range carrying 12 BVR's of 120km+ range

 

[DARKY]

For western borders, we have more than enough to negate PAFs any advantage.

Mirage 2000-9 (Ungraded Radar, engine, MICA and METEOR integrated)
Mig-29 UPG (Longer range with CFT, upgraded radar and avionics, better ECMs)
Jaguar (better engine, perfect for strike role near border areas)
Mig-27 (Ground Attack)

Add bisons... Tejas would follow later.

 

[nomi007]

read this
you are forgetting something
http://www.defence.pk/forums/strategic-geopolitical-issues/18533-iaf-plane-pakistan-photo-shown-coas-usa.html

 

[Skull and Bones]

Why are Indians so BVR-centric?

Because you don't stand a chance in WVR.

Even Su-27 can out turn any western jet, now add TVC and canards to it. F-16 Blk-52 falls more in the Mig-29M or Mirage 2000-9 range.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Why are Indians so BVR-centric?

because you always fight with your strenth's & its not 60's or 70's when UNKIL was with you no matter what

 

[PoKeMon]

For western borders, we have more than enough to negate PAFs any advantage.

Mirage 2000-9 (Ungraded Radar, engine, MICA and METEOR integrated)
Mig-29 UPG (Longer range with CFT, upgraded radar and avionics, better ECMs)
Jaguar (better engine, perfect for strike role near border areas)
Mig-27 (Ground Attack)

I dont think Rafale would exclusively be used against PLAF.

Rafale must be used in formation with Su 30 MKI and Mig 29 to negate any shortcomings of them. May be 2 squadrons at western end.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Add bisons... Tejas would follow later.

Role of Bison is unique. They don't engage fighters, they just scatter the incoming formation and buying time to make Mig-29 and Su-30MKIs airborne.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Sure, why not.

Heck, we should even buy some struff from the UK. I heard the UK is willing to sell some of its stuff pretty cheap.

Are you hinting towards Harrier AV8?

 

[PoKeMon]

Exactly.

PAF doesn't deserve Rafale.

But there ground SAM installation would like to be annihilated by them in SEAD operations.

 

[GURU DUTT]

What happened to India in 1965?
Didn't they have advance/large quantity of fighter jets? How come this scenario failed?

sirjee that was almost 50 years ago...its 2012 now and cant say about you but IAF has learned a lot in that time + we also have better & more fighter jets than you

 

[SQ8]

Thread not even close to the topic..
closed.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Hi,

I see that you are still in the numbers----100 is too much---a number between 15--20 su 30 shot down by paf on day 1, would run shudders in the ranks of Iaf. Once the cloak of invincibility is shattered---the psyche will be blown away.

The myth of the su 30 will either be shattered on day 1 of the combat or it will be the end game for paf. But once the myth gets shattered---the rest of the iaf will be no match.

Sir,

sadly this pretty much sums up the grasp of the fanboy club when out of jingoism they say things that are totally ridiculous.
I will only quote the incident of one MKI crashing due to FOD or whatever and the whole MKI fleet was grounded by the Indians.

had the IAF been that ruthless as the MKI fanbase wants it to be then there might have been more accidents.


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