I have already, on another occasion, listed the historical, political, religious, social, artistic, architectural and military aspects of India before 1947 which had no origination in the Indus. The known history of old India did not emanate from what is now Pakistan, as that elaborate but incomplete presentation showed.
Regarding the IVC, how could it die so completely that its existing people maintained not even a shred of remembrance or contact with it? What is the value of your claim of an ongoing link considering that the remains were found by a Bengali babu working for the British, and that the British taught us every thing we know today about the IVC? If the people living around it had a link, they should be able to display at least a shred of a connection? They should have informed the British that their ancient ruins lay below? They had no idea what was under the debris.
So how do you link the culture and the people? Just physical proximity?
Flustered? No, saddened.
I am sorry you are saddened. Please don't be. I still have to learn a lot from you. On occasions I will challenge you for the sake of challenge, to learn more. And on other occasions, I will contest your outlay because I may feel that I am on the right.
I posted a reply to your earlier statement regarding no IVC linkages with the current times. There are some very renowned Pakistani archeologists who have written about these aspects. I will try to get the links, if these are available or the books or papers they have written on the subject.
Here if I may, I will re-post some of my comments which I posted earlier.
To say that Harappan people just vanished out of thin air and no trace of them has been left is factually wrong. Their legacy also remains in many forms even to this day.
After 1900 BC there were no longer references to Meluhha in Mesopotamian writings, and no Indus seals are found in Mesopotamia after that date. Whatever the reasons of their diminishing trade – may it be changing course of river, drought, Aryan invasion, decease, earthquakes or whatever, the fact remains that their cities shrank in the second millennium BC, yes, but people still lived in places like Harappa long after that.
The continuing prosperity of the bigger cities, like Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro, may have made them grow too large and unwieldy to administer, and so groups may have split off into smaller settlements. But those settlements were held together by their common culture. Perhaps the dispersal was a way of providing flexibility to deal with the reasons I explained above.
Some of the aspects that we can still trace their legacy to are the commerce routes they developed. Traders from the highlands of Pakistan’s Baluchistan and northern Afghanistan brought in copper, tin and lapis lazuli. The Makran and southern coasts of Pakistan provided decorative shells. Timber was floated down the rivers from the Himalayas and gold from southern Central Asia. Skilled Harappan artisans and specialized craftsmen turned such raw materials into useful and beautiful products for regional distribution and—as finds elsewhere have shown—for export by land and sea to Mesopotamia, Persia and Central Asia.
“The southern states controlled the sea trade, just as Karachi does today. Ships from Meluhha [the Mesopotamian name for the Harappan nation] regularly sailed from Lothal near modern-day Karachi, Pakistan for the ports of Babylon.” And they evidently made stops all along the way, as I mentioned earlier that Indus River seals have been found in Oman, Abu Dhabi and Bahrain as well.
The modern city of Peshawar lies on what is thought to have been one of the Harappans’ main overland trade routes. That route is now a major highway that constitutes the eastern approach to the Khyber Pass and links the northwestern Indus Plain to the highlands of Afghanistan and Central Asia. An old branch of the route runs from Peshawar south into rugged tribal territory, through the modern towns of Pakistan’s Kohat and Bannu and the foothills of the Pakistan’s Sulaiman Mountains, and on down across the Gomal Plain to the early Harappan site of Rehman Dheri, where an important excavation was conducted from 1976 to 1980.
I agree with you that Hindu Aryan culture was distinctly different than the culture of the Indus Valley Civilization, which was not Hindu and yes were not Muslim either.
The IVC was mostly restricted to the valley of the Indus—however at the tail end of the civilization some of it dispersed into areas beyond the IVC.
The 3 Major IVC cities are all located in Pakistan. One in Western Pakistan, one in South and the last one approx in central Pakistan.
Current day India didn’t exist during IVC, and their religion had nothing to do with IVC, and major IVC settlements are not even located in India. However, Indians still refer to India as the “Home of Indus Valley Civilization” which is indeed surprising.
Indus Valley Civilization’s legacy is linked to Pakistan and it cannot be denied, because various peoples after their decline ruled or invaded the area.
Therefore, we the people of Pakistan rightly claim ourselves to be the scions of and holders of Indus Valley Civilization.